and dont trust this guy Xnext .. Date Registered: 02 August 2014, 05:11:15
creat this account only to troll ...
creat this account only to troll ...
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and dont trust this guy Xnext .. Date Registered: 02 August 2014, 05:11:15
creat this account only to troll ...
creat this account only to troll ...
I am in the list. How can I get my coins? Thanks.
My node account is 16788356351633443172, but I don't see my account ID on the list, what should I do now?
Who can help?
Thank you and DannyElfman!
I am in the list. How can I get my coins? Thanks.
My node account is 16788356351633443172, but I don't see my account ID on the list, what should I do now?
Who can help?
I am in the list. How can I get my coins? Thanks.
My node account is 16788356351633443172, but I don't see my account ID on the list, what should I do now?
Who can help?
Contact one of the devs. Most people suggested that. (Try the thread opener!)
I am in the list. How can I get my coins? Thanks.
My node account is 16788356351633443172, but I don't see my account ID on the list, what should I do now?
Who can help?
I am still curios.
What is the main distinguishing feature to Nxt?
No new feature compared NXT,just a fork of NXT.What is the main distinguishing feature to Nxt?
Yes for now, I hope the devs make some innovations!
I am still curios.
What is the main distinguishing feature to Nxt?
No new feature compared NXT,just a fork of NXT. What is the main distinguishing feature to Nxt?
I am in the list. How can I get my coins? Thanks.
My node account is 16788356351633443172, but I don't see my account ID on the list, what should I do now?
I am in the list. How can I get my coins? Thanks.
I say mistake in commissions since it was changed for several times for the distribution of coins
Then it must be a mistake that is coincidentally in both my code and the block explorer code!
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if this is the only account was logged on the server, and it has generated block
Commission came to this number account back
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Commission came to this number account back
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Yes, the summary of the net balance for the account shows positive, but the account's own transaction history sums up to a negative, so if the summary number is the correct one then the server itself also coincidentally shares this bug in the history! (Or, in other words, the server disagrees with itself about this account, in any case.)
If this is 5 coins coming in from elsewhere, where are they coming from? There weren't other transactions in the block to collect fees from, unless the miner moved coins to another "otherwise disconnected from genesis addresses" location, which you could provide the missing tx for. Any other coins not "already" collected in fees at that time were still accounted for. Why wouldn't they show some different transaction type or whatnot? If these are some fee collections from staking then they are indistinguishable from other transactions! Why do total account balances sum to a surplus precisely matching the difference of fees? Simply showing the mining address collecting all other fees would easily answer this!
I'd really like to see some answer instead of just another assertion that I'm wrong without any explanation, but to be honest I'm quickly losing interest in the whole matter. Being a huge fan of nodejs I was really hoping to see a great coin here, but I have every indication (so far) that I'm going to be left disappointed yet again.
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Sum of inputs is 10.36 = 0.15 + 10.15 + 0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02
Sum of outputs is 12.3942 = 0.0922 + 1 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.1 + 0.01 + 0.001 + 0.001 + 11 + 0.01 + 0.1 + 0.01 + 0.01
Sum of fees is 3.03918 = 0.00001 + 0.00001 + 0.00001 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00035 + 0.00004 + 0.00001 + 0.00001 + 0.0385 + 0.00004 + 1 + 1 + 1
Balance is -5.07338 = 10.36 - (12.3942+3.03918)
Which of these calculations is the wrong one? (I really am running out of reasonable ways to do the "show my work" thing here...)
You logged into the account 14931191424261653564?
password: 1234567890
You see a negative balance?
I say mistake in commissions since it was changed for several times for the distribution of coins
also you miss this moment that this account generated block
Commission came to this number account block
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I do not understand you,
You are doing wrong calculation error you have, so I'll give you tomorrow for the correct calculation of your blocks
You are doing wrong calculation error you have, so I'll give you tomorrow for the correct calculation of your blocks
You've said my conclusion is wrong several times now, but have not yet explained how it can be wrong.
Here is the data straight from your block explorer for 14931191424261653564
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id Sender Recipient Ammount Fee
12845206835269364784 14931191424261653564 15452014960459345794 0.0922 0.00001
5018937612377503329 14931191424261653564 6618192569618682016 1 0.00001
5700905546718490151 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00001
13484712660724554178 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00004
743373330916963902 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00004
5714408362752147383 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00004
12823647786059863083 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00004
13442360466351869795 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00004
14303885377400851356 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.1 0.00035
11174689921170464920 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00004
8980591579813928523 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.001 0.00001
14394236852179174845 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.001 0.00001
2326980602599604324 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 11 0.0385
15442885102068069929 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 0.00004
10749341276028122134 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.1 1
17440046058446214449 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 1
17540076683096205620 17591617551191551229 14931191424261653564 0.02 1
1657007062373292605 17591617551191551229 14931191424261653564 0.02 1
17495854921759089114 17591617551191551229 14931191424261653564 0.02 1
7349136027811136473 14931191424261653564 17591617551191551229 0.01 1
12884179395091139578 17591617551191551229 14931191424261653564 10.15 0
7723897683554645791 17591617551191551229 14931191424261653564 0.15 0
Sum of inputs is 10.36 = 0.15 + 10.15 + 0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02
Sum of outputs is 12.3942 = 0.0922 + 1 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.1 + 0.01 + 0.001 + 0.001 + 11 + 0.01 + 0.1 + 0.01 + 0.01
Sum of fees is 3.03918 = 0.00001 + 0.00001 + 0.00001 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00004 + 0.00035 + 0.00004 + 0.00001 + 0.00001 + 0.0385 + 0.00004 + 1 + 1 + 1
Balance is -5.07338 = 10.36 - (12.3942+3.03918)
Which of these calculations is the wrong one? (I really am running out of reasonable ways to do the "show my work" thing here...)
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source code will be opened after the beta testing
if you want to help us, you can join us
we will reveal to you a few lines
if you want to help us, you can join us
we will reveal to you a few lines
I'd love to review whatever source code you'd make available to me!
Once again I repeat your balance is not correct, you can not see all the blocks
Huh? What blocks can't be seen, and wouldn't that just mean that there are even more coins?? (Since the blocks I "can" see do account for every coin, plus the few extra!)
I really don't understand anything of what you're trying to say, other than the "you will see." I really would love to see for myself! I started this whole discussion with "I'd like to see source."
Which part of that 35 block parse is not correct? It shows the balance of your account going negative, and even your own site and block explorer agree with it. What, specifically, is not correct? If my chain parse, your site's account history, and your explorer all agree that your account went negative then, as far as anyone can be concerned, your account went negative.
I do not understand you,
You are doing wrong calculation error you have, so I'll give you tomorrow for the correct calculation of your blocks
source code will be opened after the beta testing
if you want to help us, you can join us
we will reveal to you a few lines
Once again I repeat your balance is not correct, you can not see all the blocks
Huh? What blocks can't be seen, and wouldn't that just mean that there are even more coins?? (Since the blocks I "can" see do account for every coin, plus the few extra!)
I really don't understand anything of what you're trying to say, other than the "you will see." I really would love to see for myself! I started this whole discussion with "I'd like to see source."
Which part of that 35 block parse is not correct? It shows the balance of your account going negative, and even your own site and block explorer agree with it. What, specifically, is not correct? If my chain parse, your site's account history, and your explorer all agree that your account went negative then, as far as anyone can be concerned, your account went negative.
I'm not sure that I understand anything of what you just said.
It is also interesting to note that the data from the site and the data shown by the block explorer differ on the details surrounding block 32, but both show a net negative balance on the account.
Yes, I left some of the dust that I found on "1234567890." Since you know what the plaintext of the account that I found my dust on was this would indicate that you know everyones' plaintext passwords. I would hope that no-one reused a password from anything important.
I haven't been doing any of my experiments on the "1234567890" account, though, so I'm not sure why it still having a balance would be relevant. Also, none of my other accounts were ever taken negative, so you might have misunderstood me. What I mean is not that I can make a negative balance on an account now but that if one transfers 100% of their balance with no fee set, 100% of the balance arrives but the ledger shows a fee having been paid in addition, presumably creating (currently) 0.00001 new node in the hands of the miner each time. I'm sure some mining node could transfer 100% of their own balance with some huge fee attached (since the "network" somehow doesn't seem to check if the fee is both valid and available) and profit immensely by mining the block. Even if they can't set fee more than 0.00001, they could just mine lots and lots of blocks since it appears that they have every capability to mine blocks instantly.
This is assuming there is any actual mining process occurring "behind the scenes" at all, of course. I'm increasingly skeptical. If there is currently a miner collecting fees, what is the address at which it currently does so, so we can see if it also balances or not in the explorer? What exactly is the claim algorithm, which in the "marketing materials" is left incredibly vague, and for which there appears to be no real information coming out of the system itself? Also, logically it would seem that if all coins up to cap are already held under key, there can be no systematic staking interest paid out and only claim of fees.... so what is the proposed incentive to mine without high value transactions already constantly occurring? Where can we see the "proof" part of the proof-of-work and/or proof-of-stake that is occurring? Why should we think that any aspect of this system isn't just a bad, clunky pay-pal? (Closed system on a centralized server, over-reaching administrative controls, etc.)
Also, why exactly couldn't all of the "distribution" be done at once? Why this slow account-by-account re-disbursement?
I'm sure that some more detailed explanations would be appreciated by your stakeholders.
Firstly, we have reduced the commission initially for distribution of coins. We did not want to remake "Forge", so disable some functionality and reduced fees. In the client will work in normal mode. We also wanted to check on the server generating block. We not only distribute the coins, but also test
Secondly soon client and you will see for yourself. Each participant will be able to take in beta testing. Of course there are bugs, we will test and encourage users for any errors
Once again I repeat your balance is not correct, you can not see all the blocks
Look at block # 272-275
and account number: password145 (11875288750812311935) http://nodemoney.com:19775
and
http://nodemoney.com:19775/blockchainexpl/
You can sum the ins and outs for the account itself from the data at http://nodemoney.com:19775/account/getAccountTransactions?accountId=14931191424261653564 and you'll clearly see that it has more outs and fees than ins!
Even if you look on the block explorer ledger and add it up yourself, you see the same. This account has more node IN than OUT even before fees!
were units that it generated, the initial fee for the generation unit was 1 fee, then 0.35%, now temporarily 0.00001, tomorrow I will add here that even blocks it generated, and it will be seen that the balance is actually positive
You can go on 1234567890 and see that he is still positive, it may try to send more than is in the account, given the fact that the Commission now 0.00001
I'm not sure that I understand anything of what you just said.
It is also interesting to note that the data from the site and the data shown by the block explorer differ on the details surrounding block 32, but both show a net negative balance on the account.
Yes, I left some of the dust that I found on "1234567890." Since you know what the plaintext of the account that I found my dust on was this would indicate that you know everyones' plaintext passwords. I would hope that no-one reused a password from anything important.
I haven't been doing any of my experiments on the "1234567890" account, though, so I'm not sure why it still having a balance would be relevant. Also, none of my other accounts were ever taken negative, so you might have misunderstood me. What I mean is not that I can make a negative balance on an account now but that if one transfers 100% of their balance with no fee set, 100% of the balance arrives but the ledger shows a fee having been paid in addition, presumably creating (currently) 0.00001 new node in the hands of the miner each time. I'm sure some mining node could transfer 100% of their own balance with some huge fee attached (since the "network" somehow doesn't seem to check if the fee is both valid and available) and profit immensely by mining the block. Even if they can't set fee more than 0.00001, they could just mine lots and lots of blocks since it appears that they have every capability to mine blocks instantly.
This is assuming there is any actual mining process occurring "behind the scenes" at all, of course. I'm increasingly skeptical. If there is currently a miner collecting fees, what is the address at which it currently does so, so we can see if it also balances or not in the explorer? What exactly is the claim algorithm, which in the "marketing materials" is left incredibly vague, and for which there appears to be no real information coming out of the system itself? Also, logically it would seem that if all coins up to cap are already held under key, there can be no systematic staking interest paid out and only claim of fees.... so what is the proposed incentive to mine without high value transactions already constantly occurring? Where can we see the "proof" part of the proof-of-work and/or proof-of-stake that is occurring? Why should we think that any aspect of this system isn't just a bad, clunky pay-pal? (Closed system on a centralized server, over-reaching administrative controls, etc.)
Also, why exactly couldn't all of the "distribution" be done at once? Why this slow account-by-account re-disbursement?
I'm sure that some more detailed explanations would be appreciated by your stakeholders.
I've noticed there is dust for every password so you could conceivably make some cash scooping it all up. Of course you might stumble onto someones account doing that as well. Does the account lock to your IP when you create it?
There is not dust in every account, I just stumbled onto an obvious password.
Really? I tried 4 variations on my password when it went to the wrong acct and every one had dust.
if one of the users were online at the time when we were doing the distribution of the coins, the account number could generate block, and here you see the result
Look at block # 272-275
and account number: password145
I've noticed there is dust for every password so you could conceivably make some cash scooping it all up. Of course you might stumble onto someones account doing that as well. Does the account lock to your IP when you create it?
There is not dust in every account, I just stumbled onto an obvious password.
Really? I tried 4 variations on my password when it went to the wrong acct and every one had dust.
You can sum the ins and outs for the account itself from the data at http://nodemoney.com:19775/account/getAccountTransactions?accountId=14931191424261653564 and you'll clearly see that it has more outs and fees than ins!
Even if you look on the block explorer ledger and add it up yourself, you see the same. This account has more node IN than OUT even before fees!
were units that it generated, the initial fee for the generation unit was 1 fee, then 0.35%, now temporarily 0.00001, tomorrow I will add here that even blocks it generated, and it will be seen that the balance is actually positive
You can go on 1234567890 and see that he is still positive, you can try to send more than is in the account, given the fact that the Commission now 0.00001
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