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Topic: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS - page 6. (Read 121869 times)

legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'

sending a pm for a 5 share refund need to find all info


I sent in a pm for order numbers

685     = 1 share
1151   = 1 share
1259   = 1 share
1270  =  2  shares

these 5 shares total 0.85334799 btc

the tx id's are

https://blockchain.info/tx/8a72bc08026d49aa5376f3c458ea0e235e69e2a068a8c18fd0dd13bfe4bee29b

https://blockchain.info/tx/3707975ebacae334a0e20f6fd45e62082e759757c399440c8703057ef7dc6f20

https://blockchain.info/tx/ac08f1205fe63a31a155dff0ba994377394167306f1807c0981d40a9f25705ba

https://blockchain.info/tx/11e30b342dea92fb78073e9a4df52fc4e42766fb916761813ab47751510e95fd

please refund to :

1Fo2K52Rz7LZw9fcF5BDdDBjfNaViQ8J3x


thank you,

philipma1957

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my refund has been sent!!

https://blockchain.info/address/1Fo2K52Rz7LZw9fcF5BDdDBjfNaViQ8J3x


thus ends my DzCoop adventure ,well not quite as I think there is a lawsuit for rounds 1 and 1 a,   and I am owed about 1.5 btc on that.

 Sad a nice idea ended this way.

   Bottomline was they made some money  for me and I will never be sure about the fault of round 17 (ie all Black Arrow or part DzCoop)
   As for round 1 and 1a that was the asic builder that went bankrupt.

my standings on busted deals are as follows

 BIPS robbed me .39+ btc the owner should get testicle cancer and die in pain.
 Some exchange folded about .1 coins
 the round 1- 1a from dzCoop owes about 1.5 coins it is still in court.

So a grand total of about 2 btc is lost as of today.

to bob thanks for refund and overall you did a lot of good deals for me. peace !

to those that got hammered here I do know how you feel as the BIPS dude still has me pissed off at him.  And if I ever go to Norway to visit my cousins maybe I will go to his country (Denmark ) and ask in person politely for my .39 btc

hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Owner, Minersource.net
I need a little more information...

1.) I have 7 shares which was originally ~ 280 GH... Did we get any compensation? If so what and how much?
2.) If calculations are correct, bitcoinwindom... at $200 per month per machine and current bitcoin prices these machines are already lossing money.

If that is the case I would like a refund of my 7 shares.

thanks,
Danleuthner


We do not have any additional information on the compensation at this time.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'

sending a pm for a 5 share refund need to find all info


I sent in a pm for order numbers

685     = 1 share
1151   = 1 share
1259   = 1 share
1270  =  2  shares
[/quote]

these 5 shares total 0.85334799 btc

the tx id's are

https://blockchain.info/tx/8a72bc08026d49aa5376f3c458ea0e235e69e2a068a8c18fd0dd13bfe4bee29b

https://blockchain.info/tx/3707975ebacae334a0e20f6fd45e62082e759757c399440c8703057ef7dc6f20

https://blockchain.info/tx/ac08f1205fe63a31a155dff0ba994377394167306f1807c0981d40a9f25705ba

https://blockchain.info/tx/11e30b342dea92fb78073e9a4df52fc4e42766fb916761813ab47751510e95fd

please refund to :

1Fo2K52Rz7LZw9fcF5BDdDBjfNaViQ8J3x


thank you,

philipma1957
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 10
PM sent

-Forum Name btc6000
-# of Shares 3
-Original TXID [to prove ownership] 989b8feb46fe988ff6369e3fadbf1742bbeec2c9cc5bdd04f581cabcb63206df
-Original # of BTC paid 0.45574319 BTC
-Address to refund too 14eMkWzkaifktyAeTcmqBtGgB2xCeeqr1c

Look forward to receiving a refund at long, long last.
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
I need a little more information...

1.) I have 7 shares which was originally ~ 280 GH... Did we get any compensation? If so what and how much?
2.) If calculations are correct, bitcoinwindom... at $200 per month per machine and current bitcoin prices these machines are already lossing money.

If that is the case I would like a refund of my 7 shares.

thanks,
Danleuthner
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Sorry for the lack of updates, before anything was posted, wanted to make sure everything was in order:

There are several options from where we can proceed with this GB, and everyone will need to make a decision.
First point: All the X3s for this GB are in the US, with the first half to be delivered today, other half tomorrow/wednesday.

1) If you have either 25 shares / 50 shares, you may elect to keep 1 module/entire X3 for yourself, either shipped to you or hosted by us.

2) Stay in the GB. We will reduce the Colocation fee to $199 / month per X3. They will be up and hashing by Wednesday, OCT 8th.

3) Refund: We now have the option of refunding everyone (if they so choose) BTC on BTC what they paid in, with no fees or anything this time around.

Those are our options at this point in time.

If you would like to stay in the GB/Recive a unit directly for your shares, please PM ME:

-Forum Name
-# of Shares
-Original TXID [to prove ownership]
-Stay in GB/Receive Units Decision

If you would like a refund, please PM me:

-Forum Name
-# of Shares
-Original TXID [to prove ownership]
-Original # of BTC paid
-Address to refund too

Any PMs that do not have all this information will not be processed, and any tickets submitted to our support system will not be answered as well. You must PM me the requested information in order to have anything done.

Refunds will be processed starting today.

sending a pm for a 5 share refund need to find all info


I sent in a pm for order numbers

685     = 1 share
1151   = 1 share
1259   = 1 share
1270  =  2  shares
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Owner, Minersource.net
Sorry for the lack of updates, before anything was posted, wanted to make sure everything was in order:

There are several options from where we can proceed with this GB, and everyone will need to make a decision.
First point: All the X3s for this GB are in the US, with the first half to be delivered today, other half tomorrow/wednesday.

1) If you have either 25 shares / 50 shares, you may elect to keep 1 module/entire X3 for yourself, either shipped to you or hosted by us.

2) Stay in the GB. We will reduce the Colocation fee to $199 / month per X3. They will be up and hashing by Wednesday, OCT 8th.

3) Refund: We now have the option of refunding everyone (if they so choose) BTC on BTC what they paid in, with no fees or anything this time around.

Those are our options at this point in time.

If you would like to stay in the GB/Recive a unit directly for your shares, please PM ME:

-Forum Name
-Order Number
-# of Shares
-Original TXID [to prove ownership]
-Stay in GB/Receive Units Decision

If you would like a refund, please PM me:

-Forum Name
-# of Shares
-Order Number
-Original TXID [to prove ownership]
-Original # of BTC paid
-Address to refund too

Any PMs that do not have all this information will not be processed, and any tickets submitted to our support system will not be answered as well. You must PM me the requested information in order to have anything done.

Refunds will be processed starting today.
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 10
3 shares. Yup, a whole 3. The amount makes no odds, I'll continue to ensure this thread retains visibility. It's the principle of being ripped off by these scam artists.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
i want also refund.. have 25 shares Sad
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
If they were smart they would send refunds.  Since coins are now below 360.  They set a precedent by paying refunds in original btc amount not usd.  many refunds were paid out.  I think we may not be able to fight and have to accept btc.  I know that I accepted a partial refund of my 13 shares in feb.

 I was paid for 8 shares in original btc amount.  Somewhere someplace there is a TOS that states this.  

  SO I AM PRETTY  sure in my case  and my case alone.  Since I already said original BTC amount was good for the 8 shares   I am certain that I would have to accept btc for these 5 shares ..  I have records someplace   so most likely if I am sent the btc amount of .6btc or so  my shares cost I am forced to take that.   since .6 btc is around 200 usd. I would have to accept that I lost around 430 of the 630 usd.  

Not a lawyer but I do not see how I can get more then that from this. since I did take a 8 share refund in btc. back in feb.  So I wanted to be nice and at best I lose 350 usd at worst 630 usd.

I can accept btc risk so if .6 btc went from 630 usd to 200 usd fine send me .6btc and I am gone.

 BTW getting the .6btc would mean I did a btc roi .6btc in and .6btc out.

So if thomas or bob send me the .6btc I am done.

member
Activity: 68
Merit: 10
You idiots in these recent posts have a lot to learn about personal responsibility.

And how many shares do you have?
Rea
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
I have 150 shares in this, I hope bobsag3 or thomas_s replies or makes some kind of posts. Seems like the last post they made was them receiving the prototype unit or whatever. At this point I would like a refund as well.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Lux e tenebris
You idiots in these recent posts have a lot to learn about personal responsibility.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
I filed a complaint in BBB against Minersource, as the nearest legal body to by law not existing DZ Miner Coop.

BBB CASE#: 75229997

No delivery of service - hosted bitcoin mining on BlackArrow Prospero X-3
Purchase date: 20th December 2013, 2nd January 2014
Problem date: ongoing
Model: Black Arrow Prospero X-3
Order no. 1354, 1489
260 + 520 USD paid by Bitcoin

Case Description:

On 20th December 2013 and on 2nd January 2014 I ordered 6 bitcoin mining shares (in two orders #1354, #1489, 2+4 shares - 260 + 520 USD paid by Bitcoin) by DZMinerCoop company, which is personally connected to Minersource and it completely stopped communicating so I take it as Minersource is now responsible for the orders of DZMinerCoop (as there are the same people and even the same machines). The machines planned to be used in hosted bitcoin mining were Black Arrow Prospero X-3.

There was no delivery of the service until this day. I requested full refund or product replacement in the form of credit in Minersource e-shop, but nobody responded me until this day. 

Answer from Minersource

This customer has no orders with Miner Hosting LLC.

Miner Hosting LLC sold units to the DZMinerCoop, and is only responsible for the sale to DZMinerCoop and for the hosting of the machines upon arrival.

My consequent answer

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
DZ Miner Coop as the company stopped communicating with all the customers many months ago. As they are not oficially registered anywhere (as far as I know), and it is publicly known the personal connection between Minersource and DZ Miner Coop, I have to ask for refund Minersource.

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Well, basically they are trying to sneak out from any responsibility. Any lawyers here?

newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
One Iphone Sold.


Bob still has time to sell Iphones apparently. I guess since no X3's have arrived yet, their strategy is to wait a little longer until they do arrive in some weeks on months.. once they ship we can't get refunds right? so they just ignore the thread and all the refund requests until something ships. smart strategy i guess?

any comments bob? thomas?
newbie
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I'll just leave this link here:

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/bitcoin-breakdown

Oh, and I have 1 share that I'd rather see refunded at this point.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
So that's 65 shares worth 8210$ or about 9 BTC more or less. Jesus that's a lot of money... way more than I expected, and I suspect these are not the only people left without a refund.

Still nothing shipped so we are still eligible for a refund, where is it??? at least refund us in BTC.. I would personally be okay with that, not sure about the rest of the guys.

Any reply to this, Bob? or Thomas? even the mighty DZ himself? is bumping this thread not enough? do we need to spam you with private messages to get any type of response? angry emails? use the trust feature here? what do we need to do to get attention? we're 7 dudes (so far).. where are our refunds? some people lost ridiculous amounts of money.

It's October, a month and a half till the GB is 1 year old and no miners have arrived let alone started hashing. All the talk about compensation plans and so on... where is it???
Do you expect us to just forget nearly 10 thousand dollars? or almost 10 BTC (at the time)?
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 102
5 shares @ 550 USD
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 10
I would like a refund of my 25 shares as well please.  I paid $3250.  Thank you.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
35 shares which are 4410$ so far and roughly 4.5 BTC owed to us (using the rate at the time)... I expect a refund of the BTC at the very least. i mean it lost 2/3 of its worth since then but still, if we get BTC we might still get our money back someday.

if i am correct the miners still haven't shipped and hashing is no where in sight. it's almost October which is Q4 of 2014.
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