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Topic: [Closing] [GLBSE] Philj's Impressive Mining Project (PIMP) - page 2. (Read 6324 times)

legendary
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I hoped Phil would not add 2K bonds per week and stay smaller and possibly increase price like JAH.  


I agree 100% with this statement.

JAH is issuing more bonds at lower price, not 2k but still  Grin

Correct - he did recently but stayed at ~2K for several weeks...
hero member
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Hi guys,

I think that PIMP bonds are very undervalued so I will put here some reasons behind my rationale:

  • Investors could get all the best features of mining bonds, that is getting dividends without the hassle of maintenance and electricity costs.
  • Given the way he calculates difficulty variations, his dividends will be always better or at least equal to similar mining bonds.
  • Because of his statement of providing free upgrades to BFL ASICs when available.

If/When the BFL ASICs arrive, this could really boost the MH/s he will be providing for the same price, but even if they do not arrive any time soon, his current price of 0.25 per share is also a good deal.

As a result of what I think has been a thoughtful evaluation I have heavily invested in Pimp bonds.
I am truly optimistic in the evolution of this asset for long term investors, so if you are one of them I urge you to make your own analysis and share your own opinions.

Help me understand.

These bonds are sold at 0.25 BTC, they currently yield 0.0044315 BTC per week, correct? Thats what, ~7% per month?  So you are looking at ~40% ROI on your investment as dividends by December, at which time, mining revenue will half.  So you'd be lucky  if dividend payments compensate the expected loss in value of your bonds and thats when completely ignoring the rather obvious trend over the past 6 months where difficulty has increased steadily by almost 10% per month on average; a trend I suspect will accelerate when BFL will start shipping its minirigs in volume (the ones I know about alone represent almost 1TH), and a trend that will explode once they or anyone else starts shipping ASICs.

I dont understand how anyone can believe this is a sound investment. Mind you, that goes for all mining bonds on GLBSE, not just Philj's..

I really really wish I could short sell them. Perhaps I should instead set up a virtual mining bond thats not backed by any mining equipment but will just pay out dividends based on difficulty.
sr. member
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I hoped Phil would not add 2K bonds per week and stay smaller and possibly increase price like JAH.  


I agree 100% with this statement.

JAH is issuing more bonds at lower price, not 2k but still  Grin
legendary
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"[GLBSE] Philj's Impressive Mining Project (PIMP) 1MH/s FREE ASIC UPGRADE"

FREE ASIC UPGRADE?  Really? Do you have a official letter from BTL with all the details how his works and when is it going to happen or is this just a pure speculation, based on a dodgy press release with no dates or details?
One more question. What if they want you to send back the old rig before they send you new shiny ASIC rig. What happens then?
 
donator
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I hoped Phil would not add 2K bonds per week and stay smaller and possibly increase price like JAH.  


I agree 100% with this statement.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
The upgrade offer is nice - but as Meni and Giga have said, nobody knows when this will happen so discussing it now seems pointless.

I hoped Phil would not add 2K bonds per week and stay smaller and possibly increase price like JAH.  We saw last week that the 500 shares at .2625 never moved.  I suspect the 2000 at .25 will not either.  Too much too soon in a turbulent market.

That said, nice to see that the price has held at .25

DISCLAIMER - I am the issuer (one of) another mining bond (not saying which to avoid spamming the thread) so take my comments with this understanding...
donator
Activity: 335
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Bitcoin, Ripple & Blockchain pioneer
Hi guys,

I think that PIMP bonds are very undervalued so I will put here some reasons behind my rationale:

  • Investors could get all the best features of mining bonds, that is getting dividends without the hassle of maintenance and electricity costs.
  • Given the way he calculates difficulty variations, his dividends will be always better or at least equal to similar mining bonds.
  • Because of his statement of providing free upgrades to BFL ASICs when available.

If/When the BFL ASICs arrive, this could really boost the MH/s he will be providing for the same price, but even if they do not arrive any time soon, his current price of 0.25 per share is also a good deal.

As a result of what I think has been a thoughtful evaluation I have heavily invested in Pimp bonds.
I am truly optimistic in the evolution of this asset for long term investors, so if you are one of them I urge you to make your own analysis and share your own opinions.
legendary
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legendary
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Will double check the coupon amount now...
donator
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I have just bought the last ones so the IPO is finally over.

Happy investing for everyone!
hero member
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Bought because of the awesome name, good luck Smiley
donator
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Bought some bonds.

Greetz!
donator
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Bought some shares  Cheesy



Good luck with your mining company.


Greetz
legendary
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Best of luck with this - I am in for some shares at this very attractive price!
sr. member
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So you have no mining hardware yet? And you will order it after IPO is sold? That may take a while until you start to pay dividends.  Undecided
member
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I must say, the name alone got me looking at this. I would certainly consider investing in PIMP, if only so I can see it when I check my GLBSE account.
hero member
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Wat
Well at least the name is different Smiley
sr. member
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nothing to see here
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