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Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

Nonsense. What exactly is the point of playing on crypto gambling sites if we hand over our KYC details to them? Gamblers who don't have issues with submitting their KYC usually gamble on FIAT gambling sites which have way higher liquidities etc.

The primary reason why many gamblers like me are interested in crypto gambling sites is the anonymity factor basically.

Even though the site itself is reliable and trustworthy, I am not comfortable handing over my KYC to them since they are pretty much anonymous.

I will have to agree with this, if someone is not bothered by KYC policies then that is their right and I can respect their opinion, however we cannot deny that one of the biggest positive points when it comes to cryptocurrency casinos is the fact that you can play without having to go through KYC policies.

In fiat casinos you can gamble without going through KYC but as soon as you want to withdraw you need to identify yourself, and while I understand they are just following the regulations that are in place I do not see why I am supposed to accept being treated like a criminal just because I wanted to gamble a little bit, as such those policies are unacceptable to me and I am not going to tolerate a casino asking me to go through it no matter how reputable it is.

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Quote from: shoreno on April 28, 2021, 02:22:05 AM

are you the owner of cloudbet ? but it was nice to see this message coming from you . this is like a defence to your site and to inform others if what are the advantages of this site to the two .

The pointers given on that post were actually true. And despite facing issues, they able to solve them with their own resolutions. If I'm not mistaken, they are the oldest crypto-sportsbook that still operating today. They faced tough competition before against Directbet, NitrgonSports (which is also active today), etc.

They manage to maintain their reputation despite of heavy lambasting them with many scam accusations before but still they solve those and give a good action so that they can mantain their business running until today. If I'm going to choose on where to bet I will go on Cloudbet since they are quite reasonable for now.

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Quote from: shoreno on April 28, 2021, 02:22:05 AM

are you the owner of cloudbet ? but it was nice to see this message coming from you . this is like a defence to your site and to inform others if what are the advantages of this site to the two .

That account was their official forum representative here. One of the oldest accounts here (if accounts established in 2013 was old for you). It remained active answering queries and responses till now.

The pointers given on that post were actually true. And despite facing issues, they able to solve them with their own resolutions. If I'm not mistaken, they are the oldest crypto-sportsbook that still operating today. They faced tough competition before against Directbet, NitrgonSports (which is also active today), etc.

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Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

If we trust a site today, we don’t know what happens to it in a year or two. And there is no guarantee that the data won’t be stolen and then not leaked.

^ This is what exactly I want to say about those gambling sites that imposed KYC verification. Probably for now we trust them but how about in the future? Still, have a guarantee that our submitted documents are safe? What is the use that they are here in the crypto gambling space is to maintain being anonymous.

The newest generation of casino players is more technologically savvy than ever. They are ready to support all the relevant developments in the industry.
However, if you ask any of them how they feel about KYC, they will almost always be opposed to it. That's why they prefer to use cryptocurrencies.

One of the main reasons for this is that players do not trust casinos with KYC. The introduction of KYC has had some unintended consequences: it has shown the extent of distrust between gambling authorities and the gambling public. And as a result, casino operators are losing a lot of customers to other casinos.

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Quote from: mindrust on April 29, 2021, 03:20:05 PM

They are all good casinos. I heard some complaints for both cloudbet and sportsbet in the past but I believe they resolved those issues. You cannot go wrong with either of them. Be careful if you are using a VPN or if you are a US citizen though. As far as I know this is a serious issue if you are playing on Cloudbet. (it is probably the same with the other casinos.)

The use of VPNs is usually prohibited by site for players living in restricted countries. In the T&C usually the site already describe the VPN ban and players should pay attention to it. For whatever reason these sites may still freeze player funds if they violate applicable rules including use of VPN by players located in restricted countries.

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They are all good casinos. I heard some complaints for both cloudbet and sportsbet in the past but I believe they resolved those issues. You cannot go wrong with either of them. Be careful if you are using a VPN or if you are a US citizen though. As far as I know this is a serious issue if you are playing on Cloudbet. (it is probably the same with the other casinos.)

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Quote from: xandry on April 27, 2021, 02:54:30 AM

Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

If we trust a site today, we don’t know what happens to it in a year or two. And there is no guarantee that the data won’t be stolen and then not leaked.

^ This is what exactly I want to say about those gambling sites that imposed KYC verification. Probably for now we trust them but how about in the future? Still, have a guarantee that our submitted documents are safe? What is the use that they are here in the crypto gambling space is to maintain being anonymous. Nevertheless, back to the OP's question, I will choose Sportsbet, Stake and the last option is cloudbet, I am particularly most concerned about the withdrawal fee, and the most I like in sportsbet is the free withdrawal fee and less required minimum amount of withdrawal, regarding the site, there is no problem with that gambling site.

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Quote from: romero121 on April 29, 2021, 12:19:16 PM

There are sites that come into usage and make users register with KYC. Within few weeks or months time the site disappears. This happens as a result of planned execution. Here data gathering is the main objective and when they're done with that, the site gets out of usage.

Seriously, there are people who will undergo KYC in a "new" gambling site?

For that, I have to put the blame on the users themselves if something wrong happened, newbie or not.

Common sense isn't used in that particular case.

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Quote from: harizen on April 28, 2021, 04:49:10 PM

Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

I don't have any problem with KYC but it's a different story if it will impose on a gambling site, trusted or not. We are in the crypto-gambling world after all.

But in the event that, for let's say I won a decent amount and the gambling site asks me to comply with KYC, I have no choice after all but to follow.

There are sites that come into usage and make users register with KYC. Within few weeks or months time the site disappears. This happens as a result of planned execution. Here data gathering is the main objective and when they're done with that, the site gets out of usage. This is where people fear about KYC. Now such incidents were very low and everything seems to be trusted.

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Quote from: AOBTCT6 on April 21, 2021, 06:47:06 AM

The crypto sportsbook game looks to now be dominated by three clearly superior sites; Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet. There are other good sportsbooks around, but these three are on another level in terms of promotions, usability, customer service etc.

But which of the three do you prefer and use yourself? Or is there another sportsbook you prefer?

The biggest problem arising with the big boys is the slow creep of KYC and other regulations. The lack of these regulations is obviously a huge positive of crypto gambling in general so is the detriment of these sportsbooks to lose that.

I did write this to show the differences between the three - https://bitedge.com/blog/cloudbet-stake-and-sportsbet-are-lightyears-ahead-of-the-rest/

If you're struggling to pick give it a read and it may offer some clarity.

I'm a big fan of Sportsbet and find that they have some of the best promotions on, I won a nice $10 free bet on the last 4-3-Free competition and don't think any other bitcoin sites have a similar offer on. The fact that they sponsor some big name UK soccer teams shows that they are definitely going to be around for a while and are happy to invest money to grow. I'm also not sure that KYC legislation will necessarily be an obstacle to these companies - Sportsbet actually developed a separate site entirely for the UK market that is compliant (sportsbetio.uk) and they can do the same in other markets if required. It really depends on the laws of where their headquarters are based as players will find ways to fund accounts with Bitcoin.

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Quote from: harizen on April 28, 2021, 04:49:10 PM

Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

I don't have any problem with KYC but it's a different story if it will impose on a gambling site, trusted or not. We are in the crypto-gambling world after all.

But in the event that, for let's say I won a decent amount and the gambling site asks me to comply with KYC, I have no choice after all but to follow.

Crypto gambling had become known or popular because of that anonymity feature on where people could play without minding about kyc and stuffs but since they are regulated then expect for some changes in near future where these platforms are regulated and need to follow up something for them to continue its operations. For now gambling sites does have the right to ask for kyc but just on some circumstances.
In the topic question then those bookies are good imho. Why not also put betcoin.ag in the list?

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Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

I don't have any problem with KYC but it's a different story if it will impose on a gambling site, trusted or not. We are in the crypto-gambling world after all.

But in the event that, for let's say I won a decent amount and the gambling site asks me to comply with KYC, I have no choice after all but to follow.

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Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

Of course, KYC is a bad thing. To begin, you may not want to give out your personal info because you don't know where that might end up at some point. No matter how legitimate the site appears to be at the moment, this does not rule out the possibility of a data leak.

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The stake has always taken the lead in sports booking, with their media publication and ambassadorial award to superstars in sport such as Israel and the rest.

Stake.com gives good odds in sports betting and offers live matches.

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Quote from: Cloudbet on April 22, 2021, 11:09:36 PM

We’ve been fans of Stake and Sportsbet since they entered the bitcoin community.

Here's a few reasons that separates our book from the others.

- We have a wide coverage of markets, and often with the best odds. We regularly host zero margins promotions.
- We are one of the few books in the world to offer API, enabling our players to automate their betting strategies.
- We offer sports previews and data insights by bringing in top sports journalist and analysts.
- We actively listen to our players, we constantly improve our site based on players feedback and requests.

are you the owner of cloudbet ? but it was nice to see this message coming from you . this is like a defence to your site and to inform others if what are the advantages of this site to the two .

Quote from: Stunna on April 25, 2021, 09:08:08 PM

Can't go wrong with any of them, all awesome platforms for their own unique reasons.

yup especially stake ? ehehe just kidding but its nice to see that owners of each platforms have a respect to each other . thats a healthy competition going on

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Crypto SportsBet is the best among CloudBet Steak or SportsBet crypto gamblers like the site from which they are very good. There are many benefits to using and kyc usually provides information on the sites the experience you get when you play is unmatched anywhere else you have no choice but to play in play for an exciting experience. Betting on watching a cricket match and changing the meaning of the bet with the situation of the match playing and betting together will give you a different experience.

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Quote from: AOBTCT6 on April 21, 2021, 06:47:06 AM

The crypto sportsbook game looks to now be dominated by three clearly superior sites; Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet. There are other good sportsbooks around, but these three are on another level in terms of promotions, usability, customer service etc.

But which of the three do you prefer and use yourself? Or is there another sportsbook you prefer?

The biggest problem arising with the big boys is the slow creep of KYC and other regulations. The lack of these regulations is obviously a huge positive of crypto gambling in general so is the detriment of these sportsbooks to lose that.

I did write this to show the differences between the three - https://bitedge.com/blog/cloudbet-stake-and-sportsbet-are-lightyears-ahead-of-the-rest/

If you're struggling to pick give it a read and it may offer some clarity.

In my opinion, I would go for stake.
I like bonuses and stake has a lot of them available.

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Quote from: michellee on April 25, 2021, 01:17:03 AM

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I did try it myself before when I've got asked to do so to withdraw it. Just as enjoying it for fun which has been always been said but when it comes to being asked to comply, you've got no choice but to follow it if you want to take your money with you.

Yes, people will not feel difficult to verify their account and they will do anything to get their money, including their win money. Many of us have that experience in gambling sites, and they follow the rule from the site to withdraw their money.

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Quote from: michellee on April 24, 2021, 02:21:05 AM

I do not bet on the sports betting site, so I think it will depend on each person to try to use Cloudbet, Stake or Sportbet. Maybe if they can try one by one of that sports betting, they will know the differences as I do not know too much about that. But if that is about playing a regular gambling game such as dice, Plinko, blackjack, mines, crash, wheel, baccarat and else, you can try with Stake. Many of us think about KYC, but if you use gambling to have fun, you do not have to think or verify your account because you do not intend to make money from gambling.

You never bet on sports betting? Why you can advertise a sport betting site then? Stake is popular with their sport betting compared other games they have.
KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

I do not know much about sports betting and if I want to bet on sports betting, I can ask my friends to place the bet for us because he is more familiar with sports betting than me and he can have a bigger chance to win. I prefer to playing gambling in an easy gambling game such as dice, crash, wheel, mines, and that game is available on Stake. But with the increase of bitcoin price, I am trying to reduce my gambling time and save income for a while and wait for the bitcoin price to increase more.

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Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

Nonsense. What exactly is the point of playing on crypto gambling sites if we hand over our KYC details to them? Gamblers who don't have issues with submitting their KYC usually gamble on FIAT gambling sites which have way higher liquidities etc.

The primary reason why many gamblers like me are interested in crypto gambling sites is the anonymity factor basically.

Even though the site itself is reliable and trustworthy, I am not comfortable handing over my KYC to them since they are pretty much anonymous.

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Quote from: numanoid on April 27, 2021, 12:17:51 AM

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

If we trust a site today, we don’t know what happens to it in a year or two. And there is no guarantee that the data won’t be stolen and then not leaked.

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