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Topic: Cluster2k and VaultMex (Read 1027 times)
VaultMex is a complete scam and the BitcoinZero community has had numerous users make deposits and later cannot withdraw
Sorry to hear..i am waiting since december to get my funds.🙈
VaultMex is a complete scam and the BitcoinZero community has had numerous users make deposits and later cannot withdraw
Hi...i just saw the Scammers opened a new page with a new account VaultMex changed to VaultMex_Support
it would be nice if everybody in here put them an Trust post on their account!
Thx a lot
not letting them come away...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vmx-vaultmex-cryptocurrencies-exchange-no-kyc-100-anonymous-low-fees-5117461
it would be nice if everybody in here put them an Trust post on their account!
Thx a lot
not letting them come away...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vmx-vaultmex-cryptocurrencies-exchange-no-kyc-100-anonymous-low-fees-5117461
The interface is nicely designed. There are lot of coins listed. There are lot of users want to trade there. If the team would have fixed issues in the very early stage and continue with the exchange, this one should be the top priority of the many coin devs and traders to list and trade. They might have started well, but they are the ones that spoiled themselves. There are many new exchanges finding it difficult to get traders. But they have a lot of time to become a good exchange.
I can confirm Vaultex is a SCAM exchange, I transferred 1000$ in btc, I've been trying to withdraw the amount but it keeps going into "pending approval" status then 4-5 hours later, the withdraw request gets canceled.
I apologize to this community if I being rude or overly aggressive yesterday with this discussion. I am
Just frustrated with the situation. It sucks losing any amount of money but I am glad it was less than two hundred dollars, that is the price I pay for this lesson I have learned. Judging by Cluster2k’s profile it looks like it cost him a ledgenary account, which I would place at a much higher value. I would like to thank this community for that.
Just frustrated with the situation. It sucks losing any amount of money but I am glad it was less than two hundred dollars, that is the price I pay for this lesson I have learned. Judging by Cluster2k’s profile it looks like it cost him a ledgenary account, which I would place at a much higher value. I would like to thank this community for that.
thx for your effort in this case. i got scammed as well. but i will not rest to bother those guys. i keep on warning all the new community’s from coins they list on their scam Exchange.and i am sure already got pissed of.
I apologize to this community if I being rude or overly aggressive yesterday with this discussion. I am
Just frustrated with the situation. It sucks losing any amount of money but I am glad it was less than two hundred dollars, that is the price I pay for this lesson I have learned. Judging by Cluster2k’s profile it looks like it cost him a ledgenary account, which I would place at a much higher value. I would like to thank this community for that.
Just frustrated with the situation. It sucks losing any amount of money but I am glad it was less than two hundred dollars, that is the price I pay for this lesson I have learned. Judging by Cluster2k’s profile it looks like it cost him a ledgenary account, which I would place at a much higher value. I would like to thank this community for that.
A simple solution to the problems which I have stated is to disable self-moderated threads entirely. What purpose do they serve except to aid fraudulent activity or people attempting to hide something from others?
To allow reputable users to create threads free of spam and trolling.
Except its being used as a tool to defraud people.
Restrict it or make it a privilege, otherwise, it is a mistake.
I am starting to understand why cryptocurrencies in general are precived in a negative light by the general population. None of this will ever go main stream with this kind of ideology.
A simple solution to the problems which I have stated is to disable self-moderated threads entirely. What purpose do they serve except to aid fraudulent activity or people attempting to hide something from others?
To allow reputable users to create threads free of spam and trolling.
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At this very moment, someone on this forum could be reading one of his self-moderated threads, full of positive feedback from his alternate forums profiles and decide to invest in one of the coins listed on VaultMex.
That's true, but it is very difficult to help people who don't help themselves at least a little bit.
Should your scenario indicate the depth of due diligence that the theoretical investor thinks adequate, then unfortunately it will only be a matter of time before he gets scammed somewhere along the line.
Search VaultMex in the forum search and critical threads are listed, search VaultMex in Google and "Scam Exchange VaultMeX!" is on this first page.
Involving moderators in any but the simplest value judgments is not practical or, to some, desirable.
I would not recommend to anyone to do research on these forums as long as there exist self-moderated threads.
When using Google to research cryptocurrency based information it is also advisable to skip over any result that is linked to these forums.
For an example a search result placement that reads "Scam Exchange VaultMeX!" means nothing if it were created by someone with a biased agenda against the exchange using a self-moderated thread option. It could just as easily say anything with nothing administrative enforcing any kind of ethical value related to business.
That is the result of the policies put in place on these forums.
A simple solution to the problems which I have stated is to disable self-moderated threads entirely. What purpose do they serve except to aid fraudulent activity or people attempting to hide something from others?
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At this very moment, someone on this forum could be reading one of his self-moderated threads, full of positive feedback from his alternate forums profiles and decide to invest in one of the coins listed on VaultMex.
That's true, but it is very difficult to help people who don't help themselves at least a little bit.
Should your scenario indicate the depth of due diligence that the theoretical investor thinks adequate, then unfortunately it will only be a matter of time before he gets scammed somewhere along the line.
Search VaultMex in the forum search and critical threads are listed, search VaultMex in Google and "Scam Exchange VaultMeX!" is on this first page.
Involving moderators in any but the simplest value judgments is not practical or, to some, desirable.
What is preventing him from using his many forum accounts to sabotage the trust level on another person's account?
I mean the way he did it in that image was obvious and stupid, but what is there to prevent a more systematic deliberate attempt spread out over a duration of time?
His untrusted feedback (and any untrusted feedback that he may leave from alt accounts) is pretty meaningless in the great scheme of things.
There's no way to prevent, in advance, anyone doing anything if they are determined, systematic and deliberate about it.
Using Trust Ratings improperly is a problem sometimes. The Reputation Child Board is one of the checks and balance mechanism the forum has for that, but moderators are not empowered to act (unless in extreme cases) as Theymos seems to see trust as a P2P situation.
What merits disciplinary action from moderators on these forums?
I have seen a lot of damage caused by multi-account users in my time, everything from spoofing bids during auctions to spreading or supporting false accusations.
SCENARIO ONE,
At this very moment, someone on this forum could be reading one of his self-moderated threads, full of positive feedback from his alternate forums profiles and decide to invest in one of the coins listed on VaultMex.
This user will learn that he cannot withdraw any of the assets that he invested into this exchange and after doing some research promptly learns that it is the policy of these forums to do nothing to prevent instances such as what just happened to him.
This forum member ceases using these forums as a result.
SCENARIO TWO,
A scammer learns from similar activities mentioned in the first scenario and decides to push the envelope even further, therefore, creating more instances of fraud and abuse. Other scammers see the same opportunity and proceed to advance their agenda and exploit it even further.
What is preventing him from using his many forum accounts to sabotage the trust level on another person's account?
I mean the way he did it in that image was obvious and stupid, but what is there to prevent a more systematic deliberate attempt spread out over a duration of time?
His untrusted feedback (and any untrusted feedback that he may leave from alt accounts) is pretty meaningless in the great scheme of things.
There's no way to prevent, in advance, anyone doing anything if they are determined, systematic and deliberate about it.
Using Trust Ratings improperly is a problem sometimes. The Reputation Child Board is one of the checks and balance mechanism the forum has for that, but moderators are not empowered to act (unless in extreme cases) as Theymos seems to see trust as a P2P situation.
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If you think about it, the nonsense feedback that he is leaving rebounds on him and confirms his lack of credibility.
If you think about it, the nonsense feedback that he is leaving rebounds on him and confirms his lack of credibility.
What is preventing him from using his many forum accounts to sabotage the trust level on another person's account?
I mean the way he did it in that image was obvious and stupid, but what is there to prevent a more systematic deliberate attempt spread out over a duration of time?
When I worked in the adult industry I spent a lot of time on GFY.com and I can tell you it is for reasons like the one I have mentioned above that multiple account offenders received bans.
Is there not some policy in place to protect the members of this forum from being scammed?
Unfortunately, no. Scams are not moderate to prevent moderator abuse. The best thing to do continue to bring awareness and encourage more DT members to leave negative feed back on the trust wall of those involved.
Can the moderators at least do something about this feedback he is leaving people?
If not I must ask with all due respect, what is it exactly are they moderating?
If you think about it, the nonsense feedback that he is leaving rebounds on him and confirms his lack of credibility.
Is there not some policy in place to protect the members of this forum from being scammed?
Unfortunately, no. Scams are not moderate to prevent moderator abuse. The best thing to do continue to bring awareness and encourage more DT members to leave negative feed back on the trust wall of those involved.
Can the moderators at least do something about this feedback he is leaving people?
https://i.imgur.com/xuqTG0d.png
If not I must ask with all due respect, what is it exactly are they moderating?
Is there not some policy in place to protect the members of this forum from being scammed?
Unfortunately, no. Scams are not moderate to prevent moderator abuse. The best thing to do continue to bring awareness and encourage more DT members to leave negative feed back on the trust wall of those involved.
How is it right that he gets to keep bumping this self-moderated thread while continuously deleting comments regarding people not having access to their funds?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4987019.140
All he is doing is using the traffic generated from these forums to victimize more forum members. Is there not some policy in place to protect the members of this forum from being scammed?
I guess I just don't see how it is in the best interest of these forums to allow this kind of fraudulent activity to take place.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4987019.140
All he is doing is using the traffic generated from these forums to victimize more forum members. Is there not some policy in place to protect the members of this forum from being scammed?
I guess I just don't see how it is in the best interest of these forums to allow this kind of fraudulent activity to take place.
Well the fact that he is obviously more concerned about the “likes” or whatever on a forum profile than he is with all the people who can’t withdraw their money from his exchange should speak volumes.
So it is possible that all these different accounts are the same person with the intent of manipulating the merit and trust system on this message forum to generate business?
The interaction and linkages between them are outlined in previous posts: it is possible, likely imo. It is not courtroom grade proof.Quote
Would a moderator be able to confirm this? I would think that a possible situation such as this should warrant an investigation by them as it strikes against the integrity of these systems put in place.
Scams and abuse of trust/merit are not within moderators' remit.Quote
If this can be established I will edit this thread again to include the Cluster2k profile in the title of the thread.
His website is displaying a demonstrably false table which lists VaultMeX as the #1 crypto exchange. He refuses to edit it out. For me, that makes his website untrustworthy and by extension, him too (although I haven't left him negative trust. [yet])
So it is possible that all these different accounts are the same person with the intent of manipulating the merit and trust system on this message forum to generate business?
Would a moderator be able to confirm this? I would think that a possible situation such as this should warrant an investigation by them as it strikes against the integrity of these systems put in place.
If this can be established I will edit this thread again to include the Cluster2k profile in the title of the thread.
I am fairly certain that Cluster2k is either still closely associated with or is in fact the VaultMex account as I was just banned from their discord after a heated private conversation with Cluster2k regarding this thread.
Would a moderator be able to confirm this? I would think that a possible situation such as this should warrant an investigation by them as it strikes against the integrity of these systems put in place.
If this can be established I will edit this thread again to include the Cluster2k profile in the title of the thread.
I am fairly certain that Cluster2k is either still closely associated with or is in fact the VaultMex account as I was just banned from their discord after a heated private conversation with Cluster2k regarding this thread.
I noticed this feedback in Cluster's trust wall:
In addition to your finding
And, was active today:
In IamNotSure's lending thread http://archive.is/vYtMT rondex posted this:
Your account only is not enough for such amount. Any altcoins?
But, few minutes later IamNotSure is not sure why:
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Feedback on trust wall is pointing to this:
...but I don't see any records:
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Some merit stats from https://bpip.org/
Rondex to Cluster2k:
Cluster2k and chromosoma to VaultMeX:
IamNotSure to Cluster2K:
They paid for what? A bald faced lie?
So, you're not removing it because:
A) They paid for it
B) You're still afk
C) ?
I think it is ?. So, you're not removing it because:
A) They paid for it
B) You're still afk
C) ?
In addition to your finding
I'd like to participate in your signature campaign! I like the website a lot, it's a true and usable alternative to coinmarketcap and similar websites.
I really enjoy the ICO list and news page within such kind of capitalization website.
But I can't find account in spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E45T0YxPYTngHK8oa4O769kijYKkQyPQPPB2zwUVMJU/edit#gid=0I really enjoy the ICO list and news page within such kind of capitalization website.
And, was active today:
In IamNotSure's lending thread http://archive.is/vYtMT rondex posted this:
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Any staked address with this account on the forum?Your account only is not enough for such amount. Any altcoins?
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Why is this guy messing with my lending? Are you rondex ok? Please leave my thread.
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Why is this guy messing with my lending? Are you rondex ok? Please leave my thread.
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I am interested in some of your domains for sale. I sent you a PM. 
Feedback on trust wall is pointing to this:
...but I don't see any records:
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Some merit stats from https://bpip.org/
Rondex to Cluster2k:
Cluster2k and chromosoma to VaultMeX:
IamNotSure to Cluster2K:
Cluster2K is acting like a lot like a guilty party. He deleted my reply to his self moderated thread where he accused Suchmoon of trust abuse, then he locked the thread. But, he didn't delete Cryptohunter's response to my comment, in which I was quoted. WTF?
Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.fo/CknSp
My deleted post:
And then you wrote:
So, if you are paid by scammers to help promote their scam you are, and should be held accountable. If some one paid me to advertise their service on my website, then I and others were scammed by that service I would cease to promote their service, and refund their money for the remaining duration of their contract.
Suchmoon's rating is justified in my opinion.
Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.fo/CknSp
My deleted post:
After the last months of problems, issues, angry customers, death threats received, funds frozen by the exchange (including my own) I decided to take a step out from all these things. Now I'm not part of the exchange "team" anymore.
And then you wrote:
As already explained they paid for that service and I'm not gonna remove it until the end of the promotion.
So, if you are paid by scammers to help promote their scam you are, and should be held accountable. If some one paid me to advertise their service on my website, then I and others were scammed by that service I would cease to promote their service, and refund their money for the remaining duration of their contract.
Suchmoon's rating is justified in my opinion.
On top of the shady behavior of promoting a project he himself admitted is scammy, he displays even more shady behavior by attempting to silence his critics.
Notice how in VaultMex's profile he also uses the term "Abuse of Trust System" when attempting to get revenge on another forum user for leaving him negative trust.
Cluster2K is acting a lot like a guilty party. He deleted my reply to his self moderated thread where he accused Suchmoon of trust abuse, then he locked the thread. But, he didn't delete Cryptohunter's response to my comment, in which I was quoted. WTF?
Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.fo/CknSp
My deleted post:
And then you wrote:
So, if you are paid by scammers to help promote their scam you are, and should be held accountable. If some one paid me to advertise their service on my website, then I and others were scammed by that service I would cease to promote their service, and refund their money for the remaining duration of their contract.
Suchmoon's rating is justified in my opinion.
Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.fo/CknSp
My deleted post:
After the last months of problems, issues, angry customers, death threats received, funds frozen by the exchange (including my own) I decided to take a step out from all these things. Now I'm not part of the exchange "team" anymore.
And then you wrote:
As already explained they paid for that service and I'm not gonna remove it until the end of the promotion.
So, if you are paid by scammers to help promote their scam you are, and should be held accountable. If some one paid me to advertise their service on my website, then I and others were scammed by that service I would cease to promote their service, and refund their money for the remaining duration of their contract.
Suchmoon's rating is justified in my opinion.
On top of the shady behavior of promoting a project he himself admitted is scammy, he displays even more shady behavior by attempting to silence his critics.
VaultMex Partners Links
CoinCaps.ai: http://www.coincaps.ai/
MnRank.com: https://mnrank.com/
AltcoinAnn: http://www.altcoinann.com/
CryptoHashTank: https://mns.cryptohashtank.net/
Mncn.online: https://mncn.online/
CryptoPiece: https://cryptopiece.com/
TradersGateway: http://tradersgateway.net/
How many of these can be tied to Cluster2K?
Notice the crosslinking:
https://i.imgur.com/gTTZUjP.png
CoinCaps.ai: http://www.coincaps.ai/
MnRank.com: https://mnrank.com/
AltcoinAnn: http://www.altcoinann.com/
CryptoHashTank: https://mns.cryptohashtank.net/
Mncn.online: https://mncn.online/
CryptoPiece: https://cryptopiece.com/
TradersGateway: http://tradersgateway.net/
How many of these can be tied to Cluster2K?
Notice the crosslinking:
https://i.imgur.com/gTTZUjP.png
Is it possible that Cluster2k is VaultMex?
It's starting to look that way. I'm having trouble to imagine another reason why a Legendary account would fall on the sword for this shitty exchange. Some banner ads and a ref link on a site that nobody's heard of... how much could it possibly be worth.
How can we confirm this either way?
I was starting to suspect this when I noticed similarities in the phrases that both of them used during conversations.
Is it possible that Cluster2k is VaultMex?
It's starting to look that way. I'm having trouble to imagine another reason why a Legendary account would fall on the sword for this shitty exchange. Some banner ads and a ref link on a site that nobody's heard of... how much could it possibly be worth.
pretty interesting...It looks like VaultMex aka ClusterFuck scamed us!!😱
Is it possible that Cluster2k is VaultMex?
It's starting to look that way. I'm having trouble to imagine another reason why a Legendary account would fall on the sword for this shitty exchange. Some banner ads and a ref link on a site that nobody's heard of... how much could it possibly be worth.
VaultMeX is still #1 exchange on Coincaps.ai
They paid for it until June 2019, I won't remove it until it is scam confirmed in any way. I think is not fair to remove that paid service.
EDIT: I'm also afk so I'm not able to make any changes to coincaps.ai website from here.
They paid for what? A bald faced lie?
So, you're not removing it because:
A) They paid for it
B) You're still afk
C) ?
Is it possible that Cluster2k is VaultMex?
You have removed my post from self moderated thread and locked thread after it:
Oh wow, we got a touchy one. I get a feeling that Cluster2k is the main puppetmaster in this scheme.
VaultMex is a great exchange, I never had a single problem with deposits, trades or withdrawals.
I recommend this exchange with 0% trading fees and great support for all the users who behave normally and correctly.
Did you noticed that VaultMex posted on their discord that PLT server was under maintenance, you prick?
I recommend this exchange with 0% trading fees and great support for all the users who behave normally and correctly.
Did you noticed that VaultMex posted on their discord that PLT server was under maintenance, you prick?
I agree.
I transacted more than 25 BTC in and out from this exchange and more than 1M DOGE, I traded so much with 0% fee and I literally love this
. Althought wd fees are not the lowest on earth saving on such big amounts of trading fees is amazing for medium/big traders. It's just a matter of time and all the big volume traders will move to https://vaultmex.com. Also I enjoy a lot that the exchange has no KYC nor identity verification to move funds nor limits on deposits and so on.
Privacy offered by the VaultMex platform is an amzing feature too!
Vaultmex is a good exchange and can't be distrusted for two FUDders in the posts above.
.....and neither rondex or Iamnotsure posted anywhere since....
A few days later a VaultMex shill name of chromosoma turns up with a "review"
Hi community.
I am chromosoma and I am a traders of cryptocurrencies since 2015. I got my attention kept by this new and promising exchange.
snip< shillshillshill>snip
I am chromosoma and I am a traders of cryptocurrencies since 2015. I got my attention kept by this new and promising exchange.
snip< shillshillshill>snip
2015?
So busy "trading" that he didn't post for two years until borrowing some money from.....Iamnotsure.
Oh, and he's the only
used services from Cluster2k, I would like to vouch for his professionalism & his skills set. I strongly recommend him for any of your crypto needs!
And WTF.....?
They paid for it until June 2019, I won't remove it until it is scam confirmed in any way. I think is not fair to remove that paid service.
EDIT: I'm also afk so I'm not able to make any changes to coincaps.ai website from here.
EDIT: I'm also afk so I'm not able to make any changes to coincaps.ai website from here.
You have removed my post from self moderated thread and locked thread after it:
As already explained they paid for that service and I'm not gonna remove it until the end of the promotion.
First of all, this is referral link:
This is nothing but lying and misleading people, based on what is VaultMeX number one exchange? Your referral link? Payed shilling?
To update post with quote:
VaultMex is a great exchange, I never had a single problem with deposits, trades or withdrawals.
I recommend this exchange with 0% trading fees and great support for all the users who behave normally and correctly.
Did you noticed that VaultMex posted on their discord that PLT server was under maintenance, you prick?
I recommend this exchange with 0% trading fees and great support for all the users who behave normally and correctly.
Did you noticed that VaultMex posted on their discord that PLT server was under maintenance, you prick?
I agree.
I transacted more than 25 BTC in and out from this exchange and more than 1M DOGE, I traded so much with 0% fee and I literally love this
. Althought wd fees are not the lowest on earth saving on such big amounts of trading fees is amazing for medium/big traders. It's just a matter of time and all the big volume traders will move to https://vaultmex.com. Also I enjoy a lot that the exchange has no KYC nor identity verification to move funds nor limits on deposits and so on.
Privacy offered by the VaultMex platform is an amzing feature too!
Vaultmex is a good exchange and can't be distrusted for two FUDders in the posts above.
Strange, IamNotSure also wears CoinCaps's signature. Coincidence?
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based on what is VaultMeX number one exchange?
You can do it here now. 