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Topic: CNY and JPY have enjoyed 90% share of trading market (Read 1283 times)

sr. member
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A Trader & An Investor
I hope they don't hurt themselves and coin community by rigging up the market with fake volumes. Of course we need to have a healthy liquidity but everything has  a limit. The Chinese stock market has always been a casino, look at it and see how it has corrected in the past 3 years.

This reminds me of how MT.Gox used to rig up the price of bitcoins to 1200 USD and the crash when Mt.Gox got hacked. Stay alert guys.
legendary
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It's surprising they don't have many altcoin exchanges in China and Japan, they mostly trade Bitcoins.

there are many altcoin exchanges located in China and Japan but we may not know or hear about them so often. for example there is yunbi which is located in Beijing and it is number 10 in coinmarketcap in trade volume.
legendary
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Is it not already a known fact that the exchanges with 0% fees trade with themselves in order to create fake volume? The CEO of Bitcoin China already said this about Okcoin. Okcoin is already known to be creating fake volume. So it will not come as a surprise that the other exchanges that have 0% fees are creating fake volume too.

It's been proposed enough times but I don't know if it's been comprehensively proven. I remember some ex OKcoin employee saying they were told to keep it churning. There's nothing stopping them from doing so however there are probably enough traders ready to ping coins back and forth for it not to be a necessity.

Well it would be a necessity if the exchange owners want to attract more users. By increasing their volume artificially it makes them look like they have a good and healthy operation with liquid markets. I mean who would want to have and own a low volume exchange? With all the questionable schemes that we have seen in the bitcoin world, it would be stupid of us not to believe that faking the volume is not happening right now.
legendary
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It's surprising they don't have many altcoin exchanges in China and Japan, they mostly trade Bitcoins.

it is kind of strange. they love gambling so why not go where the craziest gambling is? they definitely have a thing for mining and I dunno how many Chinese people mine stuff other than btc, ltc and eth and there are Chinese markets for all of them.
legendary
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It is obvious that when it comes to bitcoins, China comes first always even when being traded in fiat.
Because they hold a very big share of bitcoins which no other countries have.
full member
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MERCATOX
It's surprising they don't have many altcoin exchanges in China and Japan, they mostly trade Bitcoins.
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CNY is dominated volume transaction in market bitcoin
you can see 5 big exchanger volume transaction all from china and pair bitcoin and yuan
in big volume transaction
but JPY still under market dollar
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
I had no idea that such a thing as a 0% fee exchange existed. Is it really free to exchange coins?
If so, how would a business like this turn a profit?

Yes, it's free to trade. I assume they make their money from fees on margin trading, perhaps charging withdrawal fees and of course front running their customers.
sr. member
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That really makes me interested in the Okcoin business model.
I had no idea that such a thing as a 0% fee exchange existed. Is it really free to exchange coins?
If so, how would a business like this turn a profit?
It would cost a huge amount of money to run a successful exchange and keep servers running, security up to date, support staff on hand, etc... 
How are they affording all this? I don't see any ads on their site? Are they offering some other products/ services that charge a fee?
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
Is it not already a known fact that the exchanges with 0% fees trade with themselves in order to create fake volume? The CEO of Bitcoin China already said this about Okcoin. Okcoin is already known to be creating fake volume. So it will not come as a surprise that the other exchanges that have 0% fees are creating fake volume too.

It's been proposed enough times but I don't know if it's been comprehensively proven. I remember some ex OKcoin employee saying they were told to keep it churning. There's nothing stopping them from doing so however there are probably enough traders ready to ping coins back and forth for it not to be a necessity.
legendary
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Shocked

something interesting here https://www.coinhills.com/market/currency/

it turned out that the USD is a small currency in Bitcoin world.



okay, let's excluded chinese exchanges

even btcusd only have 700-4000 BTC volume now, JPY still has 10000-40000 volume, so Bitcoin is very popular in japanese?

this only proves that there are far more "traders" in Japan and China "trading" bitcoin with their money and also proves that once again zero fees on their exchanges are a volume magnet because you can make profit even with an stable market like this while it becomes that much harder with bitcoin / USD exchanges that charge 0.25% fee.

Is it not already a known fact that the exchanges with 0% fees trade with themselves in order to create fake volume? The CEO of Bitcoin China already said this about Okcoin. Okcoin is already known to be creating fake volume. So it will not come as a surprise that the other exchanges that have 0% fees are creating fake volume too.
legendary
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Bitcoin is a rising star in Japan.
hero member
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It doesn't surprise me at all that one of the most technologically advanced countries and the biggest country in the world do a lot of the trading with one of the most innovative and disruptive assets on the internet right now.

I can't see much evidence of bitcoin getting anywhere in japan and you can't use it for anything in china other than trading once you've mined it. there is only one reason for both countries being up there and that is zero fees. if north korea had zero fee exchanges then that would be the number one.
I personally think that there is a lot of trading and so occurring in these countries mostly because of the fact that they can be used for much more beyond just trading them back and forth. They probably move a lot of money back and forth with all of their trading to give it a use, and chances are it gives the NEETs and so of Japan the ability to make some money off of doing nothing really.
legendary
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It doesn't surprise me at all that one of the most technologically advanced countries and the biggest country in the world do a lot of the trading with one of the most innovative and disruptive assets on the internet right now.

I can't see much evidence of bitcoin getting anywhere in japan and you can't use it for anything in china other than trading once you've mined it. there is only one reason for both countries being up there and that is zero fees. if north korea had zero fee exchanges then that would be the number one.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1137
Shocked

something interesting here https://www.coinhills.com/market/currency/

it turned out that the USD is a small currency in Bitcoin world.



okay, let's excluded chinese exchanges

even btcusd only have 700-4000 BTC volume now, JPY still has 10000-40000 volume, so Bitcoin is very popular in japanese?

this only proves that there are far more "traders" in Japan and China "trading" bitcoin with their money and also proves that once again zero fees on their exchanges are a volume magnet because you can make profit even with an stable market like this while it becomes that much harder with bitcoin / USD exchanges that charge 0.25% fee.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
Shocked

something interesting here https://www.coinhills.com/market/currency/

it turned out that the USD is a small currency in Bitcoin world.



okay, let's excluded chinese exchanges

even btcusd only have 700-4000 BTC volume now, JPY still has 10000-40000 volume, so Bitcoin is very popular in japanese?

Bitcoin definitely is popular in Japan.
But what you should be looking at is overall bitcoin transaction volume, rather than just trading volume at exchanges.
hero member
Activity: 547
Merit: 500
Shocked

something interesting here https://www.coinhills.com/market/currency/

it turned out that the USD is a small currency in Bitcoin world.



okay, let's excluded chinese exchanges

even btcusd only have 700-4000 BTC volume now, JPY still has 10000-40000 volume, so Bitcoin is very popular in japanese?
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
The dollar is strong and looking good, not so much for CNY and JPY so what's the surprise here?
sr. member
Activity: 434
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With all the Chinese miners I would definitely expect the most trading to be done in Chinese currency.
But it is a surprise that Japan does so much trading. That is something I would not have expected.
Is it just a lot of large traders, or is BTC popular in Japan?
legendary
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Actually china have majority of mining power so they will generate more bitcoin than other miners as well as chinese are behind the every price pump of bitcoin usually so large volume coming from china is not a suprise.
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