Topic: Cobra-bitcoin compromised. Bitcoin.org is not safe bitcoin site anymore - page 2. (Read 730 times)

And exactly this is happening.

SW + LN + < 1MB  is too complex and too expensive to get  any new merchants on board - this was pretty much clear front up.

This looks so much Netscape + Altavista + Kodak, too much name calling and too much central egos....

I am torn in this issue. He did make sense about the POW change to prevent the mining cartel to rule over Bitcoin. I believe Luke Dashjr also expressed the same view.

https://medium.com/@CobraBitcoin/an-open-letter-to-the-bitcoin-community-to-change-the-proof-of-work-algorithm-12a6545c20d0


But going as far as calling Bitcoin Cash as the real Bitcoin, which is controlled by Jihan Wu and friends is very contradictory. Maybe he should propose to a POW change there as well. Hahaha.

But seriously, what changed? There has to be something happening behind all of this. Blackmail perhaps?

And a reminder to anyone what this person says when his account was "hacked"

https://archive.fo/mrXQY



the sad is that this guy not even respect the thousand of hours that volunteers contribute to this site. He must step down from bitcoin.org asap.

we have and more....


https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/971561261661028352

any news from Theymos? I think anyone must avoid to use bitcoinl.org until the situation to shuttle down. Is not safe to use and especially to download bitcoin binaries from a site that the admin is an account that hacked and compromised.

A lot of popular Bitcoiners are calling him a "snake" now. This will not be good for the community if that Twitter account is really controlled by the real Cobra.

Well maybe it is. More drama! YES! That's what I'm here for. Hahaha.

Has someone sent a PM to Theymos yet, or are you all afraid to? Because I would be. Hahaha.


The plot thickens. I blame the CIA. Hahaha.

lol

If I could facepalm any harder I'd likely knock myself unconscious.  No.  Funnily enough, none of that mindless drivel is what I'm proposing.

What I'm proposing is that the more you obsess about Wright/Ver/Wu/etc the more power you give them.

These personalities aren't important.  If you had even a fraction of sense you'd realise people only think they're important because you and all the other paranoid nut-jobs on this forum literally can't stop talking about them.  You're like their greatest PR consultant.  Keep giving them all that free publicity and making people think they're a big deal.  Or, better yet:

Shut.  Up.  About.  The.  Goddamn.  Boogeymen.  You.  Utter.  Cretin.

You and those like you continually reinforce and perpetuate the rift you helped create by focusing on egos, agendas and other such pathetic vanities that are in absolutely no way useful to the goal of further advancing a revolutionary technology.  People like you are directly culpable for creating an environment where this "Us vs Them" tribalist caveman mentality makes it impossible for anything but further splits and fractures.  Literally everything you are is far more damaging to Bitcoin than your chosen devils could ever be.

It's like you're trying to make a bad situation worse.  Kindly do Bitcoin a favour and just stop existing until you have a clue in your head.  Please. 

this is what Maxwell says about this cobra compromised acccount


https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/82ofw9/cobrabitcoin_must_step_down_asap_from_bitcoinorg/dvcgmsb/

craig wright is a scammer yes...
the whole jihan/ver drama is just a soap opera for reddit..
the cobra twitter is drama..

when it comes to what really matters to bitcoin, is what core/blockstream have done to diminish bitcoins ethos and utility..
if you want to continue the personality/band camp drama.. you will get your entertainment on reddit.

now sit back have a long think about what you are trying to argue about and realise where your arguments are failing.

i have already here a cup of coffee what is your point? And i never see as my friend scammers like CraigWright, Jihan Wu or Roger Ver.

chek2fire
take off your blockstream dev defense hat.. and instead of the band camp/defense attack rhetoric... argue about BITCOINS ethos and utility.
all people are trying to hint to you is that you care more about the blockstream devs having ultimate decision powers and no one else should

take a step back from the keyboard. make a cup of coffee and think long and hard about WHO/WHAT you are defending

for what i understand you propose for all of us to have done a logical step down and accept the follow term to prevent the bcash fork.

1. That Craig Wright is Satoshi and that his proposal of big blocks, 20k nodes are the true satoshi vision
2. That Roger Ver is the most brilliant tech guy to bitcoin ecosystem and everything he says is very logical in tech terms
3. To accept the blackmail from Jihan Wu and the situation that miners has the most power to bitcoin ecosystem to cancel segwit activation for months and never UASF happens
4. To accept that the real rulers of Bitcoin ecosystem is miners and big companies and never fight back for segwit2x
5. To accept that every crap opinion has much more value that whet bitcoin engineers says.

and finally to accept now that Cobra, a silent account for years that get active the last months, is not compromised even when he promote things that has not sense.
No dude. Bitcoin ecosystem was not work like this and was not survive so many years with hippies and flowers.

the only time you should worry about bitcoin cash getting more wide spread, is not about twitter accounts or website links.. but when real world merchants stop accepting bitcoin and choose a different crypto.

and then instead of crying its a conspiracy/attack.. ask yourself what has bitcoin actually done to keep decentralisation and community openness alive.
so far since 2014 (the advent of core/blockstream) all i have seen is bitcoins ethos and utility slowly diminish

but hey.. go back a couple decades and go point fingers blaming a conspiracy that myspace failed because facebook spoofed some twitter account. instead of realising that myspace stagnated and failed to listen to its community, and thus the community decided something else was needed.

personally no one can pigeion hole me into any "camp" because my philosophy is decentralisation. not band camp preference.. and its more than likely that the merchant adopting crypto will be something more like litecoin or even a yet to be conceived coin, rather than any bitcoin fork, if blockstream continue with their roadmap

Well for me as long as the campaign is not a scam im ok with that, and bitcointalk dont have any fees or charge when you make an account so you should not be worried in loss of something but still bitcointalk.org is very helpful for me i hope that news is just not true...

If he owns bitcoin.org it will be curious if he will ever redirect bitcoin.org to bcash.org or something similar, after that it will make a huge sense. Btw I agree to you, his account is compromised, bitmain wants to make bitcoin cash more wide and popular among people than bitcoin.

You don't have to like it.  But at the same time, you have to recognise that calling upon someone in a position of authority to take action and forcibly remove someone you perceive as a threat is wholly antithetical to the ideals you supposedly subscribe to as a Bitcoin user.  As is trying to orchestrate a witch-hunt complete with pitchforks and burning torches to take their ownership away by coercion.  That's not how we do shit here.  You can't "win" by abandoning the fundamental principles that guide us.  

Maybe just use your words and make a compelling case as to why Cobra is wrong to say what they're saying.  Then allow people to decide for themselves which one the correct view is.  You know, like a civilised human being.  Is it really that difficult?  

All this bandwagon/populist crap is just stirring up unnecessary drama.  If anything, you're hurting your own cause by provoking extreme reactions to what are actually pretty trivial issues.  If people like you were more tolerant of differing views, there would be less division in the community overall and there may not even have been a split that people would feel the urge or need to defend against.  

Or, to put it more succinctly, you have to accept responsibility for your own involvement in how BCH came to exist in the first place.

Think on that.

makes me laugh

person doesnt follow the blockstream roadmap like a bible.. so chek2fire says take away control of website and give it solely to blockstream fanboys... all because of a twitter account.
where said twitter account might be a spoof anyway

thats like saying you want a divorse because you seen a fresh pair of boxers in your wifes bed.. before even asking who's boxers they were.. maybe she likes wearing boxers herself but doesnt want to wear yours because she knows where they have been.. maybe she bought you a fresh pair because she knows where your old ones have been.

but hey deep down people soon realise what you really wanted was any excuse to not have to share the bed with anyone that opposes your opinion
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chek2fire bitcoin WAS suppose to be decentralised. but instead of having the whole x1 x2 as a single network consensus..
(like unlimited, xt, classic was 2014-2016)
 blockstreamers baracaded themselves into a cabin and then got bloq to help push x2 into altcoin land so that blockstreams x1 got activated even though x1 was only getting 30% of the community node vote prior to their game

by saying anything not core is an attack is the simple admission that you believe core own bitcoin. and thus you admit that bitcoin is not decentralised.

..

while i do love seeing blockstream fanboys blaming others to distract the attention away from how bitcoin is losing its ethos because of blockstream fanboyerism.. all they are really doing is just pushing people away unless they are part of a roadmapped central agenda

what should have happened is that if blockstream didnt get the 2015 segwit vote and then didnt get the consensus vote. blockstream(core) should have gave up and listened to the community by trying something else. but instead they banished the opposition into altcoin land to 'rig' the vote in blockstreams roadmaps favour

but hey now they can push as many soft forks as they like without a vote. so thats why some are saying full nodes are no longer required. because its all gone centralised..

but hey. as long as you can make people look in the other direction while bitcoins utility diminishes further.. you will be happy right

no offense but i wonder the same for you with the kumbaya view of things. You mean that we must be happy that roger ver, craig wright and now cobra attack bitcoin and promote bcash because it will made it "stronger" ?
ok....
is like someone to slap your face and not react because you expect to get stronger

It makes sense if you consider that a contentious hardfork which could potentially divide the Bitcoin community in half would be incredibly beneficial to BCH, because it would create further confusion about which Bitcoin is the "real" one.  Regardless of what the "noble cause" is purported to be, more disruption and infighting is categorically not the way forward.  I, for one, don't buy this notion that we need to "save Bitcoin from the miners" with the nuclear option of an algorithm change.  It's a pretty flimsy pretense for making an enormous mess and, personally, I don't believe it to be sincere.  

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It doesn't matter what you think the problem is.  Nor does it matter how dangerous he might be in your paranoid fanboy delusions.  It wouldn't even matter if he was under the direct influence of whatever boogeyman you're soiling yourself over at any given point in time.  That's all completely 100% irrelevant.  The point, which you seem utterly incapable of grasping, is you are in literally no position to say he can't own something that already belongs to him.

If you can't respect the basic concept of ownership, what are you even doing here?

You said:

No.  False.  Cobra "must" do nothing of the sort.  Get over yourself.  

You also said:

No.  False again.  Having partial ownership of a domain name does not preclude Cobra from discussing topics you personally find undesirable.  Again, get over yourself.

Aside from that, I like how anyone who gives the slightest hint of legitimacy to BCH is automatically assumed to be the equivalent of a cyber-terrorist who is being mind controlled by Jihan or Roger.  It's good that you're being reasonable about these things and not resorting to grossly exaggerated caricatures.    

How do fruitloops like you even function on a day-to-day basis?  I honestly do wonder sometimes.

Something fucked up is happening here. A few days ago he was whining about changing the proof of work algorithm to save bitcoin from the miners. Now he's full bcash which is 100% the pet of those evil centralisers.