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Topic: COIN ETF denied by SEC (Read 2658 times)

legendary
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April 19, 2017, 11:22:33 AM
#45
have they made an actual statement about the denial or their future plans? i haven't seen anything as far as i can tell.
full member
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Merit: 101
April 19, 2017, 10:44:03 AM
#44
Yep they def are.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
April 19, 2017, 10:11:21 AM
#43
That b**ch costed my money! Stupid Winklederp twins. They are cursed. First facebook, and now the ETF.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
April 19, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
#42
Proudhon has been in remission for a long time, but he's not fully cured.  He will never be fully cured.
legendary
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March 12, 2017, 05:06:38 PM
#41
And thus we see the bitcoin price was significantly dependent on...the US SEC. Hope everyone is enjoying what remains of their SECOINS.

My sources confirm it.
hero member
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Merit: 514
March 10, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
#40
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As discussed furtherbelow, the Commission is disapproving this proposed rule change
because it does not find the proposal to be consistent with Section 6(b)(5) of the Exchange Act,
which requires, among other things, that the rules of a national securities exchange be designed
to prevent fraudulent and manipulative acts and practices and to protect investors and the public
interest.

https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx/2017/34-80206.pdf
SEC team were right, bitcoin still has to solve all those problems regarding manipulative acts which need larger block size in order to attract more adopters, in several years, we may have bigger market cap to prevent those things, at least.
However, SEC decision will make bitcoin price continue to decline and we could start from the beginning again without ETF speculation.
hero member
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March 10, 2017, 06:50:48 PM
#39
Its kinda sad that COIN ETF is denied by SEC well this is the most probable outcome I think since there's only low chance of it being approved in the first place. Soon we will see the new floor if the dump continues. I really do hope that it wouldn't dump that much and if it will I hope it might not go down below 400$ but there's still the possibility of it being dumped lower than that so all I can do is watch what will happen.
legendary
Activity: 992
Merit: 1000
March 10, 2017, 06:40:07 PM
#38
Large Sustained Price Rises won't be forthcoming until Bitcoin Unlimited achieves 75% hashrate and we finally get our hard fork.

Honestly, with the amount of organic growth that has been happening - if it had been unhampered by the 1mb limit imposed by Core - and if Marketshare had not flooded into alt coins - Bitcoin could have had a sustained price rise to >1K without it just being ETF speculation.
hero member
Activity: 1918
Merit: 564
March 10, 2017, 06:35:46 PM
#37
After a few days when the markets calm down we will see how much the price was driven by ETF approval speculation. I personally thought it wouldn't drop under $1000 but it did.

At least this is another opportunity before the price climbs back up again. People were eagerly waiting for such a dump, now here it is. Put your money to work and start buying up these discount coins!
i think yes that is the good opportunity to trad bitcoin right now, because the price of bitcoin is now trading below 1000 USD and i think it is a temporary downfall, it just giving opportunity to people to buy bitcoin in such a low price, because after that the price is expected to start increasing and hope that very soon it will reach to a minimum high level again.

It would be foolish to sell Bitcoin at this price but buying would be a wise decision.  Seeing the price going down for $200 - $300 is really nice to see if we are waiting for the dip.  I can say just wait a bit more because people from the other side of the world is just waking up and we can see another set of dumps coming soon. 
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 500
March 10, 2017, 06:28:55 PM
#36
After a few days when the markets calm down we will see how much the price was driven by ETF approval speculation. I personally thought it wouldn't drop under $1000 but it did.

At least this is another opportunity before the price climbs back up again. People were eagerly waiting for such a dump, now here it is. Put your money to work and start buying up these discount coins!
i think yes that is the good opportunity to trad bitcoin right now, because the price of bitcoin is now trading below 1000 USD and i think it is a temporary downfall, it just giving opportunity to people to buy bitcoin in such a low price, because after that the price is expected to start increasing and hope that very soon it will reach to a minimum high level again.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
March 10, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
#35
How its possible that kraken show other value then the other sites??

Kraken is €1025

i see that value almost everywhere, preev report the same thing, and anyway what i can only see now is cheap coin for everyone, for this reason i doubt the bottom is below 1000

there are high chance to return to the previous point very quickly
full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 100
March 10, 2017, 05:05:22 PM
#34

I was realy thinking we would see some bad panic selling. must say it is holding strong and did not drop hard.  Or maybe the storm has not started
sr. member
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Merit: 250
March 10, 2017, 05:04:25 PM
#33

I was realy thinking we would see some bad panic selling. must say it is holding strong and did not drop hard.  Or maybe the storm has not started
sr. member
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Merit: 267
March 10, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
#32
How its possible that kraken show other value then the other sites??

Kraken is €1025
legendary
Activity: 1937
Merit: 1001
March 10, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
#31
Anyone that ever thought it would get approved is completely delusional and doesn't understand both the power of bitcoin and its flaws. Both sides are reasons why a value above $500 can bever be sustained.
Unless we fundamentally start fixing things this boat will only sink. And the community has basically already voted for that by rejecting SegWit.

Sec ruling will take us back to $500 and when chinese exchanges enable withdrawals again we could even see $200 again.
legendary
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March 10, 2017, 04:56:51 PM
#30
This was never going to be approved and it will never get approved in the future.  No regulator will let someone sell securities in what is basically computer code.  That's like selling securities for email accounts. The good thing is cheap coins will be incoming shortly and the even more as soon as China exchanges release the withdrawal holds.  
hero member
Activity: 634
Merit: 500
March 10, 2017, 04:56:39 PM
#29
Fucking SEC... I won that dodge-ball competition!
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
March 10, 2017, 04:53:53 PM
#28
And now its rising

It will Fall under 700...no bullish news for now.no etf.china exchange Problems. We are now on a down Trend. The only ones who buy now are the bots.thats why we see waves.

Best investment next days will be VISIO  with this u can multiple your bitcoins

what is visio?

This is visio

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1806936.300;topicseen
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
March 10, 2017, 04:49:40 PM
#27
Byebye $1000 until never.
It is still showing $1253 on blockchain, $1118 on bitstamp and all the other exchanges have not reached $900 yet. So it is not over yet. Wink
legendary
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Merit: 1179
March 10, 2017, 04:48:50 PM
#26
After a few days when the markets calm down we will see how much the price was driven by ETF approval speculation. I personally thought it wouldn't drop under $1000 but it did.



Almost all of it was ETF speculation - prices don't rise by 30% in a month just like that.

Given the fundamental reasons they gave for refusing the ETF (manipulated exchanges), it is pretty clear that the other two ETFs won't be approved either.
It was obvious that the ETF has been contributing to a higher price, however, we also have a high level of sentiment + the demand that is stowing the market to higher prices.

Other than that, it was probably too much to expect from the SEC to approve something so vulnerable to manipulation as crypto in general due to the free market aspect.

From that point it's indeed not looking very good for future ETFs looking for approval. It was a fantastic tool for institutional money to flow into Bitcoin.  Undecided
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