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Topic: Coinbase CONFIRMS MTGOX INSOLVENCY (edit coinbase removed "insolvency" from titl (Read 6537 times)

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yeah, received that here today, too, in Europe.

kinda cool postcard/letter combination, looked strange at first, until you open it Wink
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https://primedao.eth.link/#/
I got a nice postcard from Japan today.

Last time I checked they owed me less than $10 but I'm glad to keep their mail to add to my collector items Cheesy

Me too, was surprised by the seamless opening technology.
legendary
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I got a nice postcard from Japan today.

Last time I checked they owed me less than $10 but I'm glad to keep their mail to add to my collector items Cheesy
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
Sounds like we should crowd finance some top tier oral for the unpleasant one.
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If  anyone wants to commit suicide by now... you could find my address below..
I'll accept your remaining coins... hahaha Cheesy

The next day, Autumn Radtke committed suicide(?), of which afterward Steve Beauregard called Autumn's sister in Wisconsin and asked her if there was a will because he was concerned(?) about 10,000 GoCoins.

It was first reported that Autumn was found in her apartment cum office, but later changed to her trying to fly off a 25-story building two blocks away, probably influenced by the CEO of First Meta that used to work for the Singapore Police Department.

"Autumn’s death comes on the heels of the collapse of the Tokyo-based bitcoin exchange Mt Gox last week, after $400m went missing, as well as the March 4 closure of the Flexcoin bank in Canada after hackers stole $600,000, according to the UK’s Daily Mail."

Damn you karpeles! Now I know why I didn't receive any bitcoins  Grin Grin Grin
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If  anyone wants to commit suicide by now... you could find my address below..
I'll accept your remaining coins... hahaha Cheesy

The next day, Autumn Radtke committed suicide(?), of which afterward Steve Beauregard called Autumn's sister in Wisconsin and asked her if there was a will because he was concerned(?) about 10,000 GoCoins.

It was first reported that Autumn was found in her apartment cum office, but later changed to her trying to fly off a 25-story building two blocks away, probably influenced by the CEO of First Meta that used to work for the Singapore Police Department.
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Clueless!
The self-proclaimed "world's largest bitcoin exchange" is basically saying it is to hard to take a collection of their own addresses, count the amount of BTC constituted by all unspent outputs in that wallet, and compare it with the expected balance.

The question is - how many other exchanges have been robbed blind and aren't aware of it?  This exchange has lost 750,000 BTC.  My God, you'd think that would be like trying to drive a dumptruck full of nitroglycerin through an obstacle course.  Yet somehow, this was pulled off.  Gox 'n' company might be unusually idiotic, but don't bet on it.  Perhaps there is more to this story than meets the eye.  What if TX malleability wasn't really to blame?  Another vulnerability perhaps?  Are other exchanges being milked dry before our very eyes?  Who knows.

This exchange lost 750 000btc Huh How can you know?

Gox is still trading and went not below 100$.

Sorry to say but Gox is not trading - it is completely out.

That said the recent document purporting to be a "crisis plan", which tells of the 750,000 BTC loss, is very clearly fake (which doesn't leave us any the wiser unfortunately).


it is "ponzi' in the sense that due to NO oversight of exchanges GOX like the big banks who we're unregulated...'dipped into the customer $$$" or borrowed money towards
so called future gains....that 6% gox says was lost to theft very likely was gox using that 6% at least at the beginning of its start as an exchange....and now they don't have enough bitcoins to refund and no way could they refund in $$$....thus Gox saying it was 'theft" (most likely insider from them)

But imho the reason they pulled the plug now rather then drag this out further (which imho they could have) they got confirmation according to some articles I read that the Japanese do not consider bitcoin legit $$$ thus there will be no investigation (go ahead google search it) .ie they don't want to get into this the japanase regulators

so ...with no enforcement on the horizon ...ie no theft....Gox folds up the tent and walks ..with probably all the coin

imho he will give SOME percentage back or never be able to walk in public again ....but he will take out what is needed to pay his debts...pad his nest and partial out some of the rest...and walk away ahead

well played gox ..well played

if no way to go to jail because the regulators won't pursue you it is a clean get away!

my 2c worth

Searing (again speculation on my part..but from what I see he could probably take it all w/o any consequences at this point)

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The self-proclaimed "world's largest bitcoin exchange" is basically saying it is to hard to take a collection of their own addresses, count the amount of BTC constituted by all unspent outputs in that wallet, and compare it with the expected balance.

The question is - how many other exchanges have been robbed blind and aren't aware of it?  This exchange has lost 750,000 BTC.  My God, you'd think that would be like trying to drive a dumptruck full of nitroglycerin through an obstacle course.  Yet somehow, this was pulled off.  Gox 'n' company might be unusually idiotic, but don't bet on it.  Perhaps there is more to this story than meets the eye.  What if TX malleability wasn't really to blame?  Another vulnerability perhaps?  Are other exchanges being milked dry before our very eyes?  Who knows.

This exchange lost 750 000btc Huh How can you know?

Gox is still trading and went not below 100$.

Sorry to say but Gox is not trading - it is completely out.

That said the recent document purporting to be a "crisis plan", which tells of the 750,000 BTC loss, is very clearly fake (which doesn't leave us any the wiser unfortunately).
legendary
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Isn't it ironic when they write about credibility and use 'insolvency' in the title and later remove it?

It has not been confirmed and they wouldn't want to prejudice anything on the small chance that someone may buy them out.
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The self-proclaimed "world's largest bitcoin exchange" is basically saying it is to hard to take a collection of their own addresses, count the amount of BTC constituted by all unspent outputs in that wallet, and compare it with the expected balance.

The question is - how many other exchanges have been robbed blind and aren't aware of it?  This exchange has lost 750,000 BTC.  My God, you'd think that would be like trying to drive a dumptruck full of nitroglycerin through an obstacle course.  Yet somehow, this was pulled off.  Gox 'n' company might be unusually idiotic, but don't bet on it.  Perhaps there is more to this story than meets the eye.  What if TX malleability wasn't really to blame?  Another vulnerability perhaps?  Are other exchanges being milked dry before our very eyes?  Who knows.

This exchange lost 750 000btc Huh How can you know?

Gox is still trading and went not below 100$.

Edit: Like I see now gox trading is halted since 2am. ok...
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If  anyone wants to commit suicide by now... you could find my address below..
I'll accept your remaining coins... hahaha Cheesy
zby
legendary
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Isn't it ironic when they write about credibility and use 'insolvency' in the title and later remove it?
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- Deleted entire twitter feed
- No announcement and halted trading
- Removed website
- Huge financial losses from the past.

What would it take to make you happy? Do they need to set themselves on fire in a busy intersection?

Yes, a ridiculous amount of circumstantial evidence. All of the above plus

- the move to a virtual office
- Board resignation
- fact that every other exchange has confirmed the insolvency
- leaked third-party consulting and turnaround assessment

And can you imagine any company that would not counter all of the above with a press release stating the opposite if that was the case? I don't think there is additional debate needed on 'if' but on 'how' and 'how much'.
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'Considering the avalanche of supporting evidence, I think it's likely true.'

WHAT GODDAM EVIDENCE?Huh!!!!

- Deleted entire twitter feed
- No announcement and halted trading
- Removed website
- Huge financial losses from the past.

What would it take to make you happy? Do they need to set themselves on fire in a busy intersection?
sr. member
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'Considering the avalanche of supporting evidence, I think it's likely true.'

WHAT GODDAM EVIDENCE?Huh!!!!
sr. member
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The self-proclaimed "world's largest bitcoin exchange" is basically saying it is to hard to take a collection of their own addresses, count the amount of BTC constituted by all unspent outputs in that wallet, and compare it with the expected balance.

The question is - how many other exchanges have been robbed blind and aren't aware of it?  This exchange has lost 750,000 BTC.  My God, you'd think that would be like trying to drive a dumptruck full of nitroglycerin through an obstacle course.  Yet somehow, this was pulled off.  Gox 'n' company might be unusually idiotic, but don't bet on it.  Perhaps there is more to this story than meets the eye.  What if TX malleability wasn't really to blame?  Another vulnerability perhaps?  Are other exchanges being milked dry before our very eyes?  Who knows.

Just checked (well that is a lie it is an automatic check every midnight) and BitSimple has every single satoshi it is expected to have.  Of course that doesn't really matter to anyone except the company and investors because BitSimple never holds any user bitcoins.  We believe they are safest IN YOUR WALLET.   So we will buy them with no confirmations right from any wallet you might be using.  If you want to buy bitcoins we will send them directly to your wallet.   If BitSimple was robbed blind tomorrow the only one who would lose anything is investors.  Then again they are the ones who profit so that is only fair right?

Good to know.  I like your site, I may start using it.
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Gerald Davis
The self-proclaimed "world's largest bitcoin exchange" is basically saying it is to hard to take a collection of their own addresses, count the amount of BTC constituted by all unspent outputs in that wallet, and compare it with the expected balance.

The question is - how many other exchanges have been robbed blind and aren't aware of it?  This exchange has lost 750,000 BTC.  My God, you'd think that would be like trying to drive a dumptruck full of nitroglycerin through an obstacle course.  Yet somehow, this was pulled off.  Gox 'n' company might be unusually idiotic, but don't bet on it.  Perhaps there is more to this story than meets the eye.  What if TX malleability wasn't really to blame?  Another vulnerability perhaps?  Are other exchanges being milked dry before our very eyes?  Who knows.

Just checked (well that is a lie it is an automatic check every midnight) and BitSimple has every single satoshi it is expected to have.  Of course that doesn't really matter to anyone except the company and investors because BitSimple never holds any user bitcoins.  We believe they are safest IN YOUR WALLET.   So we will buy them with no confirmations right from any wallet you might be using.  If you want to buy bitcoins we will send them directly to your wallet.   If BitSimple was robbed blind tomorrow the only one who would lose anything is investors.  Then again they are the ones who profit so that is only fair right?
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The self-proclaimed "world's largest bitcoin exchange" is basically saying it is to hard to take a collection of their own addresses, count the amount of BTC constituted by all unspent outputs in that wallet, and compare it with the expected balance.

The question is - how many other exchanges have been robbed blind and aren't aware of it?  This exchange has lost 750,000 BTC.  My God, you'd think that would be like trying to drive a dumptruck full of nitroglycerin through an obstacle course.  Yet somehow, this was pulled off.  Gox 'n' company might be unusually idiotic, but don't bet on it.  Perhaps there is more to this story than meets the eye.  What if TX malleability wasn't really to blame?  Another vulnerability perhaps?  Are other exchanges being milked dry before our very eyes?  Who knows.

With bitcoin an exchange can run and independent check with every new block every 10 minutes to verify that their total balance equal what they think they should have, and issue warnings and stop outbound transfers if there is the slightest mismatch.

If I ran a Bitcoin exchange, I would create several independent automated audit functions like this.

Mark is either the dumbest person alive, or a thief who just stole your money.
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