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That is why they are saying BlackRock basically owns the SEC.
You may not know how large BlackRock is but in the United States they have their hands in everything from Oil & Gas companies to supermarkets where people go to get their groceries.

So they will not deny them the approval process when they want to enter into the cryptocurrency market.

But I digress, this thread isn't about the ETF approval they are seeking but about Bitcoin Ordinals and how Micheal Saylor is giving his thumbs up to it's usage on the bitcoin blockchain.
But these early transgressions will all fall together one way or another in due time.

Yup! totally agrees BlackRock is not a whale but a total behemoth larger than whales could be, they are a solidify big company that is well known in the mutual fund and it was pretty much well known in getting other funds from different companies that are how large BlackRock is, now we got an idea on how large this BlackRock is, now Michael Saylor approval on opening up about their Bitcoin venture well I really don't know his true motives are, but they will surely say this is for the greater common good but in the back of our heads we all know that this is money and money is the root of all,

And Together with Michael Saylor, BlackRock, Citadel, and now Fidelity they are aiming to make Bitcoin reach $1,000,000 USD per Bitcoin, and that could surely happen when you have those big company names backing Michael Saylor, and you will know that the price will reach that high in the future, here is the interview on Michael Saylor,

Michael Saylor: BlackRock, Citadel, & Fidelity Will Send Bitcoin to $1,000,000
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That is why they are saying BlackRock basically owns the SEC.
You may not know how large BlackRock is but in the United States they have their hands in everything from Oil & Gas companies to supermarkets where people go to get their groceries.

So they will not deny them the approval process when they want to enter into the cryptocurrency market.

But I digress, this thread isn't about the ETF approval they are seeking but about Bitcoin Ordinals and how Micheal Saylor is giving his thumbs up to it's usage on the bitcoin blockchain.
But these early transgressions will all fall together one way or another in due time.
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Whenever a big player who is cryptocurrency starts to say this technology is groundbreaking and will bring innovation into the environment. You probably could take a guess they must own a majority of tokens or has a stake into the company inorder to so called 'Pump their bags!' game they always seem to take advantage of in the cryptocurrency market.

This is why we are seeing the BTC have a pump to $30,000 USD, my take here is people will be agitated again in getting into Bitcoin when a sudden change happens and this could be an opportunity for those who have a large amount of Bitcoin manipulate the market and when the company name is BlackRock the ETF will surely give many approvals to this kind of company and when BlackRock files for an ETF the market sit up and pay attention, but SEC is currently Suing many major companies that are filing an ETF approval, and BlackRock ETF now is called the iShares Bitcoin Trust, but why file now that the SEC is cracking down major filings for ETF so why BlackRock risk it now? and if SEC approves for BlackRock then a likely pump may happen (Not a financial Advisor so trade at your own risk)

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Whenever a big player who is cryptocurrency starts to say this technology is groundbreaking and will bring innovation into the environment. You probably could take a guess they must own a majority of tokens or has a stake into the company inorder to so called 'Pump their bags!' game they always seem to take advantage of in the cryptocurrency market.
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Live now. Michael Saylor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx186WuAnaQ

Let's hear that his take on this things. If you cannot get a hold of the live stream, I think they will have a copy of that interview so might as well just use that as you can also browse where you want to go or what you want to hear.

It's mostly like the first vid, but now there's the discussion about latest ideas about cryptocurrencies but I really want to hear from him what his take about the ordinal and Pepe. But I doubt he will in a serious talk like this.
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The thing that is being done on twitter is they want to create an ecosystem with what they refer to as having users being able to send each other micropayments on the platform fluidly.
Now the speculation occurs when you stat to question, which cryptocurrency they will involve in their new system.
Many have stated they will just create their own and so to not have any others suddenly increase in it's value with a huge surge as we have already seen whenever he mentions doge or shiba inu.

My real question is whenever a new memecoin or shitcoin arrives/newly deployed in some chain why there are some people who believe and buy it.

and yes some developer are only copy paste code deploy and using twitter for marketing and boom you gained tons of a new user.

I don't know if the twitter want to create an ecosystem like that But elonmusk had the twitter maybe there is memecoin involved
It is still a new ecosystem that is why people believe in such blatant scams in the first place.
Being inexperienced in the cryptocurrency scene that is the sole reason why.

Some big news was released about Black Rock Capital wanting to open a spot ETF and having the Coinbase holding those bitcoin:
"BlackRock, the world's biggest asset manager, is close to filing an application for a Bitcoin ETF (exchange traded fund), according to a person familiar with the matter.
BlackRock will be using Coinbase (COIN) Custody for the ETF and the crypto exchange’s spot market data for pricing, the person said. Coinbase declined to comment.
BlackRock began working with Coinbase to make crypto directly available to institutional investors midway through last year."
source: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/06/15/blackrock-close-to-filing-bitcoin-etf-source
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Part of AOBT - English Translator to Indonesia
The thing that is being done on twitter is they want to create an ecosystem with what they refer to as having users being able to send each other micropayments on the platform fluidly.
Now the speculation occurs when you stat to question, which cryptocurrency they will involve in their new system.
Many have stated they will just create their own and so to not have any others suddenly increase in it's value with a huge surge as we have already seen whenever he mentions doge or shiba inu.

My real question is whenever a new memecoin or shitcoin arrives/newly deployed in some chain why there are some people who believe and buy it.

and yes some developer are only copy paste code deploy and using twitter for marketing and boom you gained tons of a new user.

I don't know if the twitter want to create an ecosystem like that But elonmusk had the twitter maybe there is memecoin involved
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Stop believing the bogus market cap and volume numbers they do.

if you continue to try your luck and take a lot of your pocket paper money. Maybe the hope of getting that $1 million has passed between those bogus volume parts even though there was only a $1000 total.

THE MEME MARKET IS FAKE. they do it the sneaky way by using the system the creators sell themselves to fix/fix/fake the price hoping some idiot will buy from them later.
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"Uniswap still looks to be slightly ahead of Coinbase, with $1.2 billion volume compared to the San Francisco-based exchange’s $948 million."
Uniswap when comes to memecoin and the other token mostly will lot ahead of the Centralized Exchange it is simply because they get listed first and born in ETH or other evm chains Grin
Very interesting how these tokens which have no utility or intrinsic value except to the one's holding it, has up ended the king of all crypto and has caused a flurry of problems for the over 14 year cryptocurrency.
Hahahha It is very very interesting but I am just very sad when comes to Twitter that some user buy at the top and blaming or just started done with crypto industry.
For some reason, people fell into this no-utility token and hoping the price is to the moon because listed on big centralized Exchange
The thing that is being done on twitter is they want to create an ecosystem with what they refer to as having users being able to send each other micropayments on the platform fluidly.
Now the speculation occurs when you stat to question, which cryptocurrency they will involve in their new system.
Many have stated they will just create their own and so to not have any others suddenly increase in it's value with a huge surge as we have already seen whenever he mentions doge or shiba inu.
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Part of AOBT - English Translator to Indonesia
"Uniswap still looks to be slightly ahead of Coinbase, with $1.2 billion volume compared to the San Francisco-based exchange’s $948 million."

Uniswap when comes to memecoin and the other token mostly will lot ahead of the Centralized Exchange it is simply because they get listed first and born in ETH or other evm chains Grin

Very interesting how these tokens which have no utility or intrinsic value except to the one's holding it, has up ended the king of all crypto and has caused a flurry of problems for the over 14 year cryptocurrency.

Hahahha It is very very interesting but I am just very sad when comes to Twitter that some user buy at the top and blaming or just started done with crypto industry.

For some reason, people fell into this no-utility token and hoping the price is to the moon because listed on big centralized Exchange
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Coinbase is in enough hotwater now with all these filings from the SEC against them. So maybe it was better of them not to get into something that is causing controversy within the crypto community at the moment.
They have been releasing several commercials on their socials trying to rally their customers behind them, not segregate them at this time of uncertainty.
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
With the BRC-20 tokens taking up the majority of the block size on transactions sent to the bitcoin blockchain in the past three weeks causing chaos and having users of bitcoin paying enormous fees, one of the first exchanges in the US have had enough.
They sent their customer base newsletter out in an email late yesterday about a certain token known as pepe.
The email entails and describing the Pepe meme as a hate symbol co-opted by alt-right groups has drawn significant ire from the PEPE memecoin community.
source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-calls-pepe-a-hate-symbol-prompting-calls-to-boycott-the-exchange
Only 24 hours ago the pepecoin backers with the community on twitter were asking Coinbase to list the BRC-20 token on their exchange with screen captures of the symbol on their own webpage, either real or photoshopped on several of crypto influencers twitter feeds.
But now they are all up in arms against the American exchange with these mass emails being sent out with no hope in sight for their beloved green frogfaced meme which was created back in 2005 and made the rounds on huge online media sites such as reddit and 4chan.
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/05/11/coinbase-newsletter-flags-rise-of-pepecoin-and-brc-20-tokens-irks-crypto-twitter

Since then, there was some news about pepe & memecoins topping Coinbase in trading volume just today.
Uniswap Volume Leapfrogs Coinbase Thanks to Pepe and Meme Coins
https://decrypt.co/139594/uniswap-volume-leapfrogs-coinbase-pepe-meme-coins
"Uniswap still looks to be slightly ahead of Coinbase, with $1.2 billion volume compared to the San Francisco-based exchange’s $948 million."

Very interesting how these tokens which have no utility or intrinsic value except to the one's holding it, has up ended the king of all crypto and has caused a flurry of problems for the over 14 year cryptocurrency.

What happened here is quite easy to deduce, actually. BRC-20 Tokens (Bitcoin NFTs) became extremely popular and very easy to make profit from,especially considering how much money laundering must have been going on behind the scenes, from big players and exchanges. And some exchanges wanted a piece of the pie, as well. I am sure exchanges understood completely that they were basically scamming their users into buying these tokens but money is money.

Coinbase knows better than to step into a gray regulation zones which might make them look suspicious, which I am sure is the reason why they decided to distance themselves as far as possible from Pepe and other trashcoins.
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This video I had for a nearly a month on these memecoin trader's evolution. Grin

A.I. David Attenborough on memecoin trading.
https://twitter.com/0xSnailMoon/status/1657016895726395397
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Don't know how old that video interview was but it probably was well within the timeframe of when Saylor stated he was in favor of these abominations. He was documented on numerous podcasts and livestreams on mainstream media announcing his vote on having them on the bitcoin blockchain. For reasons of keeping miners receiving those enormous payouts.
So all about the money from a capitalist: https://www.mythofcapitalism.com/guides/michael-saylor-net-worth

If Microstrategy wanted to, they could dump all of Saylor's holdings in bitcoin and completely decimate the cryptocurreny market and have $1000 bitcoin prices of the cryptowinter we all remember from 2017.
source from The Motley Fool investors website: https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/02/08/invested-in-bitcoin-in-2017-youd-now-have
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Ordinals and BRC-20 makes no sense to me and this will likely drag Bitcoin down in it's transaction fee in 2024-2025 when a new ATH comes. Ordinals and BRC-20 is a big abominations that shouldn't have taken place on Bitcoin.
Abomination. Dude, you hit the right word for it. But I am not sure about other people and there's a ton of supporters who are really hyping it despite the fact that it hurts those who are affected by the heavy traffic and expensive fees today. It really sucks just to see the prices and the time it will take.
And if they will add more, it will be chaos.

A friend shared me this clip, so I watched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5wFLkvK_uw


I am not done watching it yet, but I heard him say in the first part "The paradigm shift happens every decade." My question is, "Is it the right time for a paradigm shift under Bitcoin?" (even if it's here for over a decade)
It also came from him that Bitcoin is still young. People are just starting to realize how good cryptocurrencies are especially Bitcoin when it comes to keeping their assets. But, when they start breaking it at this early stage, will the investors still see Bitcoin as a good investment considering the high fees and traffic? Bitcoin is his reserves, did he even think about that far before supporting the ordinals. I wish he is not making a big mistake here. I know he takes high risk but isn't this a bit far?
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It's crazy how something useless as pepe is doing so well than projects that have good meaning in this crypto space, what is Pepe solving? Yeah it's a meme coin but is it pumping so hard?

The congestion on Bitcoin is a big problem, if Ordinals existed to solve that it would have been a big success and someone like myself would have invested a lot in this project, but that's not the case here, Ordinals hard more to the problem of Bitcoin congestion.

Ordinals and BRC-20 makes no sense to me and this will likely drag Bitcoin down in it's transaction fee in 2024-2025 when a new ATH comes. Ordinals and BRC-20 is a big abominations that shouldn't have taken place on Bitcoin.
There seems to be two camps on this subject:
Those who are bitcoin maximalists and do not ever want to see it defiled in this manner with having ordinals ruining it's ecosystem.
Then there are those who want to see innovation and just purely accepting it can bring it that much closer to global acceptance thus adoption.

But many say: At what price?
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It's crazy how something useless as pepe is doing so well than projects that have good meaning in this crypto space, what is Pepe solving? Yeah it's a meme coin but is it pumping so hard?

The congestion on Bitcoin is a big problem, if Ordinals existed to solve that it would have been a big success and someone like myself would have invested a lot in this project, but that's not the case here, Ordinals hard more to the problem of Bitcoin congestion.

Ordinals and BRC-20 makes no sense to me and this will likely drag Bitcoin down in it's transaction fee in 2024-2025 when a new ATH comes. Ordinals and BRC-20 is a big abominations that shouldn't have taken place on Bitcoin.
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Completely agree with everything you have stated above @Reid

As this video I suggested in my earlier post outlines where bitcoin is headed if they put to play these instances you have mentioned with the layer 2 network and the introduction of Web3 as it can serve to lessen the transactions fees that puts the blockchain at such an underpass compared to other blockchains.

What's the future of crypto? - from TheEconomist
The financial revolution once promised by cryptocurrencies has been knocked off course by regulators and allegations of fraud.
So what does the future hold for crypto?

Cypherpunk stills and Eric Hughes interview under creative commons licence: https://econ.st/3Iijagn

00:00 - The crypto party is over
01:06 - The history
03:30 - What is crypto?
04:38 - Uses around the world
06:07 - Layer 2 solutions
07:12 - Web3
08:51 - Data and privacy
10:04 - What is the future of crypto?


Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rCKo4CBgM
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There is a clip from a financial media outlet that questions about cryptocurrency if these layer 2 advancements are needed since if you are denying it's existence you might as well block Web3 from your life aswell.
^I tried reading more to understand this and Layer 2. Thank you.

There are projects that came out from Layer 3 but uses a separate chain. CakeDefi is one.
IMO, all Bitcoin needs is the Layer 2 but only targets to make the transactions faster and cheaper and it will survive as the highest marketcap in the cryptocurrency industry. Bitcoin is designed to lessen the burden of those who pays more in their transactions due to middlemen. i.e. Western Union charges 5-10 percent of every transaction you make while in Bitcoin it's way lesser than that. I will even take the $1 fee for a $100 transaction and it's still cheap, way cheap.
A test of $100 transaction using WU.

I say Bitcoin chain doesn't need them, these tweaking of the Layer 3 just so they could be the same as what is happening on other chains like Ethereum.
Didn't we already learn something about how expensive Ethereum transaction are? A year ago, I tried sending Ethereum to a ERC20 wallet and it cost me an astonishing $5 just to do that, worst, it failed twice which took $10 from me.
Is it innovation or an addition to the suffering of those who really uses the service.
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There is a clip from a financial media outlet that questions about cryptocurrency if these layer 2 advancements are needed since if you are denying it's existence you might as well block Web3 from your life aswell.
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