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Topic: Coinbase - Regulated & Licenced US Bitcoin exchange - Good or Bad? - page 2. (Read 2327 times)

legendary
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Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
We have all seen the news, about Coinbase being the first regulated and licensed US Bitcoin exchange.

People are devided into different groups, when this is discussed :

1. People who says, it's a huge move for Mass adoption.
2. People who says, it's a blow for Bitcoin/crypto currency privacy.
3. People who says, "Bring it on, it will open up new legitimate channels for new buyers"
4. People who says, "They bring nothing new, we need a decentralized exchange"

Where do you stand on this issue, and what do you think would be the 100% solution to all exchange issues, to prevent another MtGox fiasco?

1. This will be helpful for adoption.  It is another +1 for BTC and each time we get a plus, we get closer.  This will by no means be the tipping point.  We still need an "Amazon" level announcement for that.

2. It is not a blow at all.  People that are using Bitcoin for privacy can continue on using the same channels they were already using which wasn't Coinbase to begin with.

3. This is by far the strongest argument here.  Do you know that basically 95% of BTC volume is traded in China (Even Coinbase's coins are currently processed out of HongKong).  The exchanges aren't regulated and carry a definite risk of Goxxing us.  Few very rich people will be willing to buy 10's of millions of dollars on a Chinese exchange.  You are just about as likely to see that same person on the bad side of town shooting dice.  The just want touch it.  But with Coinbase and the future ETF from the Winklevii, the whole picture will change.  Coinbase will become the #1 exchange for volume and the ETF for futures.  Both will be in the US and both will be regulated.  Right now China is faking numbers, colluding, squeezing people out for a cheap buck, and just generally playing games.  And they can do so with no consequences because they are the market leader, but with these developments legit and honest operations will become the market leader which will to some extent force China to be honest too.

4. We also need a decentralized exchange, but look, the reason why we need a decentralized exchange is for "trust", but trust need not always be achieved through decentralization.  Until we get there, the level of trust by a regulated and insured Coinbase with best practices can allow people to feel safe.  This is the best 2nd case scenerio and the fears of getting Goxxed are gone except for people that keep their funds on shady exchanges.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
Well the investors, who wants to do everything by the book, will welcome this.

How do you explain to the tax collector, if you bought 200 Bitcoins at $10 on LocalBitcoin, from a guy on the street, and now you want to sell those Bitcoins for say $3000 on Coinbase.  Shocked

So for some, this will have no affect, but for the person, who runs a legitimate company or a personal investor, this will be welcomed.

The bigger investor, would possible have a more legitimate vehicle to enter the Bitcoin environment and it will give them a more secure environment to trade in.
Q7
sr. member
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When it says regulated and licensed, I hope there is certain control put in place like for example, an audit taking place where they have to allow external accounts auditor to perform a check. For me that is fine and with that, hope to see all the other exchangers follow the same as well.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1000
We have all seen the news, about Coinbase being the first regulated and licensed US Bitcoin exchange.

People are devided into different groups, when this is discussed :

1. People who says, it's a huge move for Mass adoption.
2. People who says, it's a blow for Bitcoin/crypto currency privacy.
3. People who says, "Bring it on, it will open up new legitimate channels for new buyers"
4. People who says, "They bring nothing new, we need a decentralized exchange"

Where do you stand on this issue, and what do you think would be the 100% solution to all exchange issues, to prevent another MtGox fiasco?

I think its a good thing to have regulation.  1.) we can have decentralized exchanges if regulation is a problem 2.) we can make bitcoin 2.0 if its a problem
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
They previously met the federal requirements. Now they are meeting state requirements which require millions of dollars and a lot of time to obtain.

Thank you for the info. At least now it became more clear to me.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
You could always sell your bitcoins via CoinBase in the US. You could also always buy.

But this allows investors and traders in the US to more easily get their money onto the exchange to do more day trading.

If it was possible to exchange bitcoins in the past then what does "Regulated & Licenced" mean? That they were doing it illegally?

They previously met the federal requirements. Now they are meeting state requirements which require millions of dollars and a lot of time to obtain.
legendary
Activity: 2870
Merit: 7490
Crypto Swap Exchange
Coinbase increase bitcoin adoption while help bitcoiner lost their privacy Sad
But honestly Coinbase is bad exchange site for some people

Solution to prevent another case like Mt.Gox is exchange site provide reversible deposit from fiat currency & maybe they give private key to their users
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
You could always sell your bitcoins via CoinBase in the US. You could also always buy.

But this allows investors and traders in the US to more easily get their money onto the exchange to do more day trading.

If it was possible to exchange bitcoins in the past then what does "Regulated & Licenced" mean? That they were doing it illegally?
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
A lot of USA citizens now got a legitimate way to sell their bitcoins.

You could always sell your bitcoins via CoinBase in the US. You could also always buy.

But this allows investors and traders in the US to more easily get their money onto the exchange to do more day trading.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Price before rumor of Coinbase news:
$230

Price today:
$260

30$ difference is even below price dispersion. Looks like Coinbase had 0 (zero) effect. And this is actually good, because it could be worse. A lot of USA citizens now got a legitimate way to sell their bitcoins.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
Good for Bitcoin.

Bad for trolls/bears.

Market is not agree with you. At least BitcoinWisdom says so.

I should have added bad for alt supporters too.

Price before rumor of Coinbase news:
$230

Price today:
$260

Price at the bottom: $152

We are on our way up. The bottom is in.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Good for Bitcoin.

Bad for trolls/bears.

Market is not agree with you. At least BitcoinWisdom says so.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
We have all seen the news, about Coinbase being the first regulated and licensed US Bitcoin exchange.

People are devided into different groups, when this is discussed :

1. People who says, it's a huge move for Mass adoption.
2. People who says, it's a blow for Bitcoin/crypto currency privacy.
3. People who says, "Bring it on, it will open up new legitimate channels for new buyers"
4. People who says, "They bring nothing new, we need a decentralized exchange"

Where do you stand on this issue, and what do you think would be the 100% solution to all exchange issues, to prevent another MtGox fiasco?

You might want to add another group of people who say " TO THE MOON " .
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
$75mn is a lot of money that will no doubt fuel adoption globally
Excited
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Great news for adoption in the US, in my opinion
International expansion also worth watching
member
Activity: 69
Merit: 10
good for bitcoin adoption and acceptance
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
I don't believe the "regulated and licensed" hype. At best, they're a licensed money-transfer operation. They don't even have a money transfer license in California.  Here's the official California list.. All the other companies with payment systems are on there, from PayPal to Venmo. Not Coinbase. And no, the list isn't wrong; I called and checked. No Coinbase.

Could the fact that they only announced yesterday, be the reason, why it's not updated on the official list? You should post this on reddit, or tweet it and try to get a correct answer.

The hype was spread on most mainstream media, so some people will have red faces, if this is not true.  Embarrassed
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
Good for Bitcoin.

Bad for trolls/bears.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
I don't believe the "regulated and licensed" hype. At best, they're a licensed money-transfer operation. They don't even have a money transfer license in California.  Here's the official California list.. All the other companies with payment systems are on there, from PayPal to Venmo. Not Coinbase. And no, the list isn't wrong; I called and checked. No Coinbase.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
We have all seen the news, about Coinbase being the first regulated and licensed US Bitcoin exchange.

People are devided into different groups, when this is discussed :

1. People who says, it's a huge move for Mass adoption.
2. People who says, it's a blow for Bitcoin/crypto currency privacy.
3. People who says, "Bring it on, it will open up new legitimate channels for new buyers"
4. People who says, "They bring nothing new, we need a decentralized exchange"

Where do you stand on this issue, and what do you think would be the 100% solution to all exchange issues, to prevent another MtGox fiasco?
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