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Topic: Coinbase steals and profits off customers via high risk transaction scheme (Read 6832 times)

newbie
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I encourage people to file complaint with Better Business Bureau in CA.
that's hilarious.  Don't you know the BBB is the biggest scam of all?  You can 'buy' a good standing membership no matter how awful your history.  BBB is a raging lie.

Did you know university accreditation costs money? Mostly because the people that do the audits need to be paid? *Gasp* such a scam.

~in BTC?lol  Cool
newbie
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I encourage people to file complaint with Better Business Bureau in CA.
that's hilarious.  Don't you know the BBB is the biggest scam of all?  You can 'buy' a good standing membership no matter how awful your history.  BBB is a raging lie.

Did you know university accreditation costs money? Mostly because the people that do the audits need to be paid? *Gasp* such a scam.
hero member
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I encourage people to file complaint with Better Business Bureau in CA.
that's hilarious.  Don't you know the BBB is the biggest scam of all?  You can 'buy' a good standing membership no matter how awful your history.  BBB is a raging lie.
newbie
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I encourage people to file complaint with Better Business Bureau in CA. These guys are lieing through their teeth to customers. Their TOS allows them to consider EVERY transaction high risk so they can select a few random to cancel.

Their TOS also contradicts the post by their CEO addressing cancelled orders in the CoinBase blog.

They lead users to believe you are purchasing BTC directly when in fact you give them money, and they obtain the BTC from an exchange. This is also evident when BitStamp goes down tickers/buy/sell all atop working.

Coinbase themselves MUST know the high volatility of BTC, so they MUST know they have to determine whether a transaction is fraudulent early on. Yet it takes them an entire week to cancel from their "automated" software and after BTC skyrockets.

If they indeed thought a transaction is fraudulent or cannot fullfill it, there is absolutely NO reason to wait an entire week.

These guys are using customer money as fractional loans during the 1 week period for themselves to either resell for massive profit when BTC goes up, or let the transaction go through and sell to the customer at a massive gain when BTC goes down.

Their lack of willingness to work out transactions with customers and continued lack of action on rectifying the 1 week hold points to this as well.

New people need to be warned that CoinBase is a whole lot of snake-oil. I got suckered in by their sleek design and promise of ease in converting BTC/FIAT. I thought their TOS statement was a CYA, but they are actively using it to screw random customers. You feel safe when you see the "You WILL receive your BTC by...". When in fact you just bent yourself over for them.
legendary
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OP if you feel so strongly that you are right and you are in USA go sue them.  You fully ID yourself already and they got us fiat bank accounts so collecting if you win will be easy.  Small claims judges generally see through the bullshit rather well and it's cheap to sue in small claims.
hero member
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Coinbase buys instantly about 90% of what you "buy" when you do, and buys the other small bit when the money actually comes in. Thus, if a large price increase occurs they would take an overall loss on the sale due to the rise in price THUS they lie to you and say "flagged for fraudalent transaction" or some other BS to prevent a loss. Really wishing someone would sue them for this obvious and blatant lie and act of fraud against customers.

Do you have any proof?
Its pretty obvious thats what they do. They say in one of their FAQ sessions, about the 90% or whatever. Find me someone who made a purchase with them and got canceled after the price went down. Funny that no one has ever had a purchase get canceled due to "fraud prevention" after the price goes down a significant amount.

I used them multiple times in the early part of the year when the price of Bitcoin was skyrocketing.  At that time there was no instant credit so I had to wait out the multiple business day hold but never were the transactions flagged for fraud.  I'm not saying one way or the other what's going on because I truly don't know, just telling you my experience. 

Maybe it has something to do with the credit check company they use or certain people's credit history? 
newbie
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Coinbase buys instantly about 90% of what you "buy" when you do, and buys the other small bit when the money actually comes in. Thus, if a large price increase occurs they would take an overall loss on the sale due to the rise in price THUS they lie to you and say "flagged for fraudalent transaction" or some other BS to prevent a loss. Really wishing someone would sue them for this obvious and blatant lie and act of fraud against customers.

Do you have any proof?
Its pretty obvious thats what they do. They say in one of their FAQ sessions, about the 90% or whatever. Find me someone who made a purchase with them and got canceled after the price went down. Funny that no one has ever had a purchase get canceled due to "fraud prevention" after the price goes down a significant amount.


~call the California money transmitter licensing agency imo
member
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Coinbase buys instantly about 90% of what you "buy" when you do, and buys the other small bit when the money actually comes in. Thus, if a large price increase occurs they would take an overall loss on the sale due to the rise in price THUS they lie to you and say "flagged for fraudalent transaction" or some other BS to prevent a loss. Really wishing someone would sue them for this obvious and blatant lie and act of fraud against customers.

Do you have any proof?
Its pretty obvious thats what they do. They say in one of their FAQ sessions, about the 90% or whatever. Find me someone who made a purchase with them and got canceled after the price went down. Funny that no one has ever had a purchase get canceled due to "fraud prevention" after the price goes down a significant amount.
hero member
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Coinbase buys instantly about 90% of what you "buy" when you do, and buys the other small bit when the money actually comes in. Thus, if a large price increase occurs they would take an overall loss on the sale due to the rise in price THUS they lie to you and say "flagged for fraudalent transaction" or some other BS to prevent a loss. Really wishing someone would sue them for this obvious and blatant lie and act of fraud against customers.

Do you have any proof?
newbie
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so maybe they "resetted" your account to sketchy mode? lol   Grin
full member
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Here's the kicker... I already successfully bought 10 btc from them with no problems in the past.

when they were still in beta? or after?  Cool

after
full member
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What is appalling are the people who don't understand what is going on, and even defending coinbase because they haven't gotten scammed yet.

If you understand how the process works, then it is as clear as day that the high risk transaction thing is not a "detection system" that they have or whatever other bogus claim.  It is a way for them to have insurance when they trade, at the expense of the customer.

because they make sure they receive the money from the customer 1st and then decide to cancel or approve, depending on bitcoin prices.
newbie
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Yes, I agree. This exact thing happened to me when I tried to buy at $20 a year ago, right before it shot up to $40 and they cancelled my transaction also. Can anyone tell me where a decent exchange might be for the US right now. If I feel like selling my BTC I'd like to be able to do so.
member
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Coinbase buys instantly about 90% of what you "buy" when you do, and buys the other small bit when the money actually comes in. Thus, if a large price increase occurs they would take an overall loss on the sale due to the rise in price THUS they lie to you and say "flagged for fraudalent transaction" or some other BS to prevent a loss. Really wishing someone would sue them for this obvious and blatant lie and act of fraud against customers.
newbie
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Here's the kicker... I already successfully bought 10 btc from them with no problems in the past.

when they were still in beta? or after?  Cool
full member
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all they would have to do is flag more high risk transactions when it goes in their favor then when it doesn't to make a nice profit.
full member
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Here's the kicker... I already successfully bought 10 btc from them with no problems in the past.
full member
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basically, coinbase is using customers as insurance when they trade.  Also, i do have proof of problems when you sell on coinbase.  i will post it later with screen shots.
newbie
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