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I don't read Coindesk either. It's a crappy opinion, whether it reflects the editors' views or not.
r0ach lists the red-flags to beware of. In general, anything that goes against personal freedom is bogus, and not to be trusted. I agree w/ O/P that metals (Au, Pt, Ag, etc.) are the basis of wealth preservation ("Store of Value"), it will not be within our lifetimes that all digital currencies put together would come close to the value of gold worldwide.
Maybe in 100 years? I won't be around to see.
Topic: Coindesk is now a pure trash propaganda outlet and must be destroyed (Read 2045 times)
November 20, 2016, 10:09:07 PM
November 20, 2016, 09:28:26 PM
Well the news is only an 'opinion'. But as what others said media really is biased even here in our country. Making news that will increase their rate and also money always play in any place including making some news like this(just an opinion) But I can't argue with this article, because the most influenced person in the world the US president can do about this .
November 20, 2016, 09:00:26 PM
Coindesk knew exactly what they were publishing and expected that this publication will cause a stir. Hence they added a Disclaimer:
"The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to, CoinDesk."
Something like this make me think that this article is against official views represented by Coindesk. Which is even more stupid.
Why they publish articles which are against their beliefs?
"The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to, CoinDesk."
Something like this make me think that this article is against official views represented by Coindesk. Which is even more stupid.
Why they publish articles which are against their beliefs?
Well, I however think it's quite the opposite actually. I think this represents coindesk's real viewpoint, they just can't go ahead and label it "officially". These,
"The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to, CoinDesk." are just convenient words they can hide behind,in case of reader's criticisms.
Anyway, no one really believes everything they read/hear in the news. That's like taking what anyone says at face value.
Seeing propaganda backed articles/"news", just serves to prove the "trustworthiness", or lack thereof, of a certain site.
November 20, 2016, 08:26:16 PM
I think this coindesk is been paid for all the content they published, it looks like they are only there for profit objective because I saw it on the site where they charge $199 for single press release publication not to talk more of featured news.
they publish alot of shits because there are no real subjects. of course, they have an agenda. their investor's agenda
Has the news within the crypto world just become so platonic that it sucks to report on any of it?
there are no real news or they are not daily...that's a fact.
November 17, 2016, 09:08:12 PM
I think this coindesk is been paid for all the content they published, it looks like they are only there for profit objective because I saw it on the site where they charge $199 for single press release publication not to talk more of featured news.
Everything in this world today is for profit. Even the foundations that were set up by big companies and claim to be "not for profit".
The articles that are for sale on Coindesk are a scam. All the info in those documents are accessible online. With a little motivation and patience, a little googling will get you all the information you need. Some of the people who have the information you need are also accessible thru social media and email.
November 17, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
I think this coindesk is been paid for all the content they published, it looks like they are only there for profit objective because I saw it on the site where they charge $199 for single press release publication not to talk more of featured news.
they publish alot of shits because there are no real subjects. of course, they have an agenda. their investor's agenda
Has the news within the crypto world just become so platonic that it sucks to report on any of it?
November 17, 2016, 07:17:38 PM
I think this coindesk is been paid for all the content they published, it looks like they are only there for profit objective because I saw it on the site where they charge $199 for single press release publication not to talk more of featured news.
they publish alot of shits because there are no real subjects. of course, they have an agenda. their investor's agenda
November 16, 2016, 09:49:54 AM
I think this coindesk is been paid for all the content they published, it looks like they are only there for profit objective because I saw it on the site where they charge $199 for single press release publication not to talk more of featured news.
November 16, 2016, 12:29:14 AM
Is it not CoinDesk's job to also be neutral? The site itself must be open to all the views even if it is against the site owners view. The stupid thing to do is to block one view and make way only for another.
I think OP is reacting this way because the view of the author does not align with his own. So instead of attacking the integrity of the site, why not make counter arguments with the author of the article to express your own view?
I think OP is reacting this way because the view of the author does not align with his own. So instead of attacking the integrity of the site, why not make counter arguments with the author of the article to express your own view?
Because I assume the audience I'm speaking to isn't composed of 5 year olds and already knows that issuing currency via borrowing at interest is inherently a slavery scam, as opposed to non-debt based currency where there's no continuous service fee paid to the lender.
Then that is where your argument becomes invalid because you are now attacking the character of those who do not see eye to eye with your views. Instead, why not start by objectively explaining your views and be open to any counter arguments that author may have.
If that is all you can come up with then you have already lost the audience because you are also acting like a 5 year old.
November 15, 2016, 04:16:41 PM
Would be a interesting thread to create a directory and showing potential issues for all sites bitcoin related.
The site mentioned I only check for the price of bitcoin as the site is easy to recall,other than that I have found the stories to be misleading to often.
The discord in the community really is disruptive in getting people to understand what bitcoin is about. With all these different agendas,it just spreads us thinner in already thin community.
These sites need to be held accountable for any issues they help foster.
The site mentioned I only check for the price of bitcoin as the site is easy to recall,other than that I have found the stories to be misleading to often.
The discord in the community really is disruptive in getting people to understand what bitcoin is about. With all these different agendas,it just spreads us thinner in already thin community.
These sites need to be held accountable for any issues they help foster.
November 15, 2016, 11:44:46 AM
Coindesk is partially owned by blockchain.info ... They serve its investors interests What did you expect?
If you read the BTC media, you might feel that all the world is using or start using BTC when it's not like that at all
What did you expect?If you read the BTC media, you might feel that all the world is using or start using BTC when it's not like that at all
news.bitcoin.com is owned by blockchain too? https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoins-biggest-wallet-best-month-ever/
I'm not sure all the world start using bitcoin, but if I see the price movement right now, the price moving stable than last year ago. I think it's because some country start to using blockchain technology, so some government start to investing bitcoin(i afraid if someday they will turn into big whales).
November 15, 2016, 07:45:29 AM
Coindesk is partially owned by blockchain.info ... They serve its investors interests What did you expect?
If you read the BTC media, you might feel that all the world is using or start using BTC when it's not like that at all
What did you expect?If you read the BTC media, you might feel that all the world is using or start using BTC when it's not like that at all
November 15, 2016, 07:32:32 AM
http://www.coindesk.com/will-bitcoin-have-its-moment-in-the-trump-era/
The propaganda in the above article includes:
- Suggestion that we use cryptocurrency as world reserve currency, but then does a bait and switch and says, oh but not Bitcoin (likely a federated chain run by the state or central bankers) HAHA
- Mentions the Federal Reserve not only in a positive light, but that they should have dictatorial power over the monetary system to operate a debt based scam currency and anyone who opposes them is bad or unreasonable
- Mentions the IMF and World bank in a positive manner when they're just malevolent institutions like the fed
- Writer dismisses metals as useful (gold/silver). Bankers despise serfs using metals because gold and silver circulated in native form as coins are the only known sound monetary systems. Gold "backed" currency is useless because it's essentialy the same thing as fiat in practice.
- Affiliation with MIT (where chain anchor came from to turn Bitcoin into a permissioned ledger run by the state)
- Writer is against letting nations control their borders. Another red flag. Bankers and shills like Soros are trying to flood every 1st world nation with 3rd world immigrants because only a homogenous population like Iceland can unite to throw the bankers out. If you flood a nation with 3-4 warring factions, it's a divide and conquer strategy to keep them enslaved.
- Writer is against people who want to withdraw from globalization and forced entanglements, which the US founding fathers explicity warned against. Calls anyone that doesn't want to have endless wars for foreign entities "isolationist"
- Writer pulls the race card when anyone that has a basic understanding of sociology knows multicultural civilizations are far more likely to collapse than homogenous ones like Japan or China. Trying to force "diversity" onto civilizations is always a divide and conquer strategy for someone else's benefit (usually the central bankers to weaken the cohesion of society to prevent being overthrown)
- Demonizes Russia for no reason (we all know the real reason - threw out Soros and refused to bow down to the bankers)
- So, in summary, Coindesk puts out propaganda directly from Federal Reserve central banking shills now.
- Also, never trust anyone as far as you can throw them that claims Cryptocurency is a superior store of value to metals. Cryptocurrency has uses, but it will never be a superior store of value. You need to destroy the entire planet to black swan metals, while cryptocurrency is much easier to hijack or destroy. Metals will always be the base of Exter's pyramid and there is no possible way for cryptocurrency to replace it. The price of Bitcoin can still go up like 100x, but if the market cap of metals is not larger than crypto, you're in an irrational market and things are going to implode.
The propaganda in the above article includes:
- Suggestion that we use cryptocurrency as world reserve currency, but then does a bait and switch and says, oh but not Bitcoin (likely a federated chain run by the state or central bankers) HAHA
- Mentions the Federal Reserve not only in a positive light, but that they should have dictatorial power over the monetary system to operate a debt based scam currency and anyone who opposes them is bad or unreasonable
- Mentions the IMF and World bank in a positive manner when they're just malevolent institutions like the fed
- Writer dismisses metals as useful (gold/silver). Bankers despise serfs using metals because gold and silver circulated in native form as coins are the only known sound monetary systems. Gold "backed" currency is useless because it's essentialy the same thing as fiat in practice.
- Affiliation with MIT (where chain anchor came from to turn Bitcoin into a permissioned ledger run by the state)
- Writer is against letting nations control their borders. Another red flag. Bankers and shills like Soros are trying to flood every 1st world nation with 3rd world immigrants because only a homogenous population like Iceland can unite to throw the bankers out. If you flood a nation with 3-4 warring factions, it's a divide and conquer strategy to keep them enslaved.
- Writer is against people who want to withdraw from globalization and forced entanglements, which the US founding fathers explicity warned against. Calls anyone that doesn't want to have endless wars for foreign entities "isolationist"
- Writer pulls the race card when anyone that has a basic understanding of sociology knows multicultural civilizations are far more likely to collapse than homogenous ones like Japan or China. Trying to force "diversity" onto civilizations is always a divide and conquer strategy for someone else's benefit (usually the central bankers to weaken the cohesion of society to prevent being overthrown)
- Demonizes Russia for no reason (we all know the real reason - threw out Soros and refused to bow down to the bankers)
- So, in summary, Coindesk puts out propaganda directly from Federal Reserve central banking shills now.
- Also, never trust anyone as far as you can throw them that claims Cryptocurency is a superior store of value to metals. Cryptocurrency has uses, but it will never be a superior store of value. You need to destroy the entire planet to black swan metals, while cryptocurrency is much easier to hijack or destroy. Metals will always be the base of Exter's pyramid and there is no possible way for cryptocurrency to replace it. The price of Bitcoin can still go up like 100x, but if the market cap of metals is not larger than crypto, you're in an irrational market and things are going to implode.
The idea to use cryptocurrency as a world reserve currecny is really stupid.
Cryptocurrencies are just a bunch of programming code.
Anyway,i agree that 99% of what they write is propaganda.
November 15, 2016, 07:27:12 AM
The big bitcoin news sites have been corrupted for a long time to post only paid advertisements in the form of news articles. I've stopped reading them ages ago, it is simply too obvious what they are doing.
The problem is that new sites will eventually succumb to the same practices as the big ones once they smell the money.
They don't produce news anymore, they simply post when a coins pays them to show something "new" they have.
The problem is that new sites will eventually succumb to the same practices as the big ones once they smell the money.
They don't produce news anymore, they simply post when a coins pays them to show something "new" they have.
November 15, 2016, 02:29:25 AM
Is it not CoinDesk's job to also be neutral? The site itself must be open to all the views even if it is against the site owners view. The stupid thing to do is to block one view and make way only for another.
I think OP is reacting this way because the view of the author does not align with his own. So instead of attacking the integrity of the site, why not make counter arguments with the author of the article to express your own view?
I think OP is reacting this way because the view of the author does not align with his own. So instead of attacking the integrity of the site, why not make counter arguments with the author of the article to express your own view?
Because I assume the audience I'm speaking to isn't composed of 5 year olds and already knows that issuing currency via borrowing at interest is inherently a slavery scam, as opposed to non-debt based currency where there's no continuous service fee paid to the lender.
November 15, 2016, 01:55:21 AM
Coindesk knew exactly what they were publishing and expected that this publication will cause a stir. Hence they added a Disclaimer:
"The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to, CoinDesk."
Something like this make me think that this article is against official views represented by Coindesk. Which is even more stupid.
Why they publish articles which are against their beliefs?
"The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to, CoinDesk."
Something like this make me think that this article is against official views represented by Coindesk. Which is even more stupid.
Why they publish articles which are against their beliefs?
Is it not CoinDesk's job to also be neutral? The site itself must be open to all the views even if it is against the site owners view. The stupid thing to do is to block one view and make way only for another.
I think OP is reacting this way because the view of the author does not align with his own. So instead of attacking the integrity of the site, why not make counter arguments with the author of the article to express your own view?
November 15, 2016, 01:03:34 AM
One of my family members are in the news business and he says a lot of the things being spread in the media is pure propaganda and it is not what they have posted, but rather what they have conveniently left out of the news. They will spam the stuff that they want you to hear, but the most important thing is the stuff that they want to hide or ignore.
Look at the articles you are not seeing on their site, to identify the corrupted media outlets.
Coindesk - Check
Bloomberg - Check
Look at the articles you are not seeing on their site, to identify the corrupted media outlets.
Coindesk - Check
Bloomberg - Check
November 14, 2016, 11:43:56 PM
the simple solution is to never believe anything you read in media and to find non-media proof/evidence/research from real sources.
Now the problem is how do you know where the real sources are, since most of the information we get comes from the media?
if they mention a company or a quote. search for that quote.
if they are not mentioning anything factual then deem it as just their unbacked opinion
for instance, the OP links an article. you could research
Michael J Casey
Digital Currency Initiative at the MIT Media Lab.
book:"The Age of Cryptocurrency"
and come to an opinion yourself about how informed this guy is. and how accurately coindesk may have quoted him
November 14, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
the simple solution is to never believe anything you read in media and to find non-media proof/evidence/research from real sources.
Now the problem is how do you know where the real sources are, since most of the information we get comes from the media?
November 14, 2016, 07:27:52 PM
The last time I read something from Coindesk was maybe back in early or mid 2015, and I'm kind of glad I stopped reading their stuff. This kind of stuff just helps to justify my decision.
It's a shame they went this route, before they weren't terrible but now it seems they've just constantly gotten worse.
I don't know about destroying their site, but it has to be changed.
It's a shame they went this route, before they weren't terrible but now it seems they've just constantly gotten worse.
I don't know about destroying their site, but it has to be changed.
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