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Quote from: Daltonik on August 11, 2022, 11:05:03 AM

I think the creators of the new gambling site just took a beautiful name for themselves and since the CoinGames brand was not previously registered, as I think, as property and the original site was just made by enthusiasts, it seems to me that it has nothing to do with the original creators.

Are we talking about the domain or the name of the site here?
As for me the domain is not working. It’s showing connection failed.
I guess if there is a new site with the same name, then it’s completely different from the OP here.
Here the site is from 2013, and at that time the contents of the site were really different, so I don’t think the site we are considering here is the one from the 2013.
I will be really surprised if the OP here at Bitcointalk comes online and announce about the site.

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I think the creators of the new gambling site just took a beautiful name for themselves and since the CoinGames brand was not previously registered, as I think, as property and the original site was just made by enthusiasts, it seems to me that it has nothing to do with the original creators.

delfastTions

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Actually, the link in my post is from an advertising article that was published in a pretty decent publication dedicated to the world of cryptocurrencies. It may well be that someone decided on the revival of the once torn casino. In general, I do not think that the new link is some kind of scam.

But of course, I can’t give guarantees of good faith and the authors of the article itself and the publication itself.

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Quote from: Daltonik on August 04, 2022, 12:09:01 PM

If you look with the help of the service who.is then you can see that the domain coingames.in it is sold for $17,121.20, so it's hard to guess whether it is the predecessor of the site of the same name casino on the domain .bet here's what the page looked like coingames.in in 2013

17k was a decent amount only for just a domain but if this was sold then why the domain is still not functional? They did only bought it for nothing? Or maybe they have plans for it later on. I don't think the other site/link has a connection to the old gambling site and as we can see their designs and the games are also different from each other, but thanks for sharing how the old site look like. It's simple but it looks pretty interesting.

I wonder if the game is live like there's really a cat that will shuffle the cups or it's only just an image but the game is going to be drawn using some kind of a randomizer. The second link/site looks good too.

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If you look with the help of the service who.is then you can see that the domain coingames.in it is sold for $17,121.20, so it's hard to guess whether it is the predecessor of the site of the same name casino on the domain .bet here's what the page looked like coingames.in in 2013

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Quote from: delfastTions on August 04, 2022, 09:49:51 AM

Quote from: Agbe on August 01, 2022, 01:17:25 PM

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OP non of the sites provided by you is working. why? I dont believe that Coingames site is still working again. I have been hearing coingames in my locality and boys where playing their games and saying the games were good and the site was running smoothly. So, when you said, coingames is back so I was thinking to check the platform and the features of the site to know if I can place a bet. But irony was the case. But if there is another site that has been developed by them, the OP being the company's agent should provide the new site in the forum. But if the site or the company is not existing anymore. this thread should be locked to avoid spamming. Because if this thread is not locked and the so called coingames are not on existence then all the comments on this thread are useless. If they are on maintenance, you can also inform us. Instead of keeping us muted.

Naturally, in 10 years everything has changed and the old links stopped working.

It's just that I accidentally, while reading the news, found an advertising article about CoinGames. And rummaging through the corners of my memory, I remembered that it seemed like there was already such a casino. I looked at old topics and saw that such a casino was indeed opened a long time ago. Then it disappeared for many years, disappeared on the Internet.

But here are the new links to CoinGames:

https://coingames.bet/en

Of course, the domain is different now, and probably this new CoinGames is not related to the old site coingames.in

Maybe someone was lucky enough to snatch the domain since no one else is using it for so long. It is still a catchy name for a platform and it can still potentially attract a lot of new comers into the space if only this new site offered something unique and gave out a lot of positives to the overall experience of the players.

Seeing how crude were the methods of old in order to place a bet, I couldn't be happier that we advanced and made a lot of things easier for gamblers.

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Quote from: Agbe on August 01, 2022, 01:17:25 PM

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OP non of the sites provided by you is working. why? I dont believe that Coingames site is still working again. I have been hearing coingames in my locality and boys where playing their games and saying the games were good and the site was running smoothly. So, when you said, coingames is back so I was thinking to check the platform and the features of the site to know if I can place a bet. But irony was the case. But if there is another site that has been developed by them, the OP being the company's agent should provide the new site in the forum. But if the site or the company is not existing anymore. this thread should be locked to avoid spamming. Because if this thread is not locked and the so called coingames are not on existence then all the comments on this thread are useless. If they are on maintenance, you can also inform us. Instead of keeping us muted.

Naturally, in 10 years everything has changed and the old links stopped working.

It's just that I accidentally, while reading the news, found an advertising article about CoinGames. And rummaging through the corners of my memory, I remembered that it seemed like there was already such a casino. I looked at old topics and saw that such a casino was indeed opened a long time ago. Then it disappeared for many years, disappeared on the Internet.

But here are the new links to CoinGames:

https://coingames.bet/en

Of course, the domain is different now, and probably this new CoinGames is not related to the old site coingames.in

Agbe

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Quote from: CoinGames on June 29, 2013, 07:26:05 AM

CoinGames is back online!

Welcome to CoinGames - Classic Bitcoin Games

http://www.coingames.in

*No registration, sign-up or personal data required
*Low house edge: 2%
*Instant results, 1-confirmation payouts
*Simple, blockchain-based betting
*Maximum bet: BTC 1.00 (will be increased soon)
*Minimum bet: BTC 0.0000001

Bet at these addresses:
1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA ---1CUPh77AYNHfBibqLuRJvLSyuYPDRrsPV ---1cupbpTMyLZFPmoG2BW32hZk1d26wvGGh

More games and features coming soon!

OP non of the sites provided by you is working. why? I dont believe that Coingames site is still working again. I have been hearing coingames in my locality and boys where playing their games and saying the games were good and the site was running smoothly. So, when you said, coingames is back so I was thinking to check the platform and the features of the site to know if I can place a bet. But irony was the case. But if there is another site that has been developed by them, the OP being the company's agent should provide the new site in the forum. But if the site or the company is not existing anymore. this thread should be locked to avoid spamming. Because if this thread is not locked and the so called coingames are not on existence then all the comments on this thread are useless. If they are on maintenance, you can also inform us. Instead of keeping us muted.

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I wonder if CoinGames is the same casino from 2012?

Or suddenly someone began to advertise themselves, or is it some kind of modification of the original?
Who understands what?

CoinGames: A new way to play casino

“An innovative online crypto casino facility that has over 10,000 games and roughly 200 game providers”

Registering at CoinGamesRegistering at CoinGames is easy: with just a few clicks you are free to explore a whole new world of entertainment! The decentralized nature of the CoinGames gaming facility makes the movement of funds faster and easier than in traditional casino contexts, so much so that a user could be on their way to playing with simply a few clicks! Moreover, unlike traditional centralized gambling entities, whether they be physical or online casinos, our decentralized framework allows us to ensure that the entirety of the system in our facility is trustless and transparent to the fullest extent possible. Decentralized gambling service providers per se are an improvement over centralized entities as they take away control from casinos and give the control to software managed by clear and transparent rules that cannot be manipulated by anyone once deployed....

CoinGames

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Well.. we are back online. Using the same betting addresses. Let's see what happens.

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Quote from: johoe on September 18, 2013, 01:45:51 PM

My guess is that the hacker somehow got hold of your blockchain.info password and used that to transfer the money. This also explains why the transaction pay the change to the 1cup address and why they were initiated by blockchain.info.

I can only guess how he got the password. Maybe he broke into your server and found the password in the scripts that do the RPC API calls.

Johoe

That sounds plausible. I´ll get in touch with our provider and see if we can somehow verify that hypothesis. Thanks Johoe.

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My guess is that the hacker somehow got hold of your blockchain.info password and used that to transfer the money. This also explains why the transaction pay the change to the 1cup address and why they were initiated by blockchain.info.

I can only guess how he got the password. Maybe he broke into your server and found the password in the scripts that do the RPC API calls.

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I've actually followed the money a bit, and the way that address 16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM makes hundreds of transfers to a large string of addresses to hide the final owner of that money is highly suspect, indicative of deliberate obfuscation.

If our private keys were intercepted, there is a very limited amount of ways it could have been done.

-Our addresses were created through https://bitcoinvanity.appspot.com/
-We used an online wallet hosted by https://blockchain.info/
-We communicated with blockchain through their RPC API http://blockchain.info/api/json_rpc_api
-Our website hosting provider is http://www.orangewebsite.com/ and was paid for in BTC

The security flaw is almost certainly in one of the above points. Those addresses were not used for anything else and no other online wallet, website, or org has access to the private keys.

My suspicion is still that this was the blockchain.info RNG security flaw that some people have mentioned, but I don't discard any possible suspects. Hell, maybe the vanitygen website is a scam and keeps the private keys of every address that they generate... who knows..

On the blockchain.info security flaw, more here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchaininfo-security-funds-stolen-277595

I've also sent a message in a new transaction to brand the hacker's address:

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Public Note: WARNING HACKER! The receiving address belongs to a Hacker who stole over 4BTC from us. See CoinGames Hacked.

Hopefully at some point in the future it will help to track stolen funds and taint all addresses associated with this one. At the very least it will force the thief to go through a mixer..

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Quote from: BRules on September 18, 2013, 07:42:44 AM

You're talking about this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ed0638d8b13ac8c1c032c2e228a1fa03a394b5eae98dea056909e8783943ca41
right?

As you can see he sent 4 bitcoins to his address but the change (0.0357598) was sent back your address, if he had you private keys, why he would do that?

That is interesting. Thanks for pointing it out. However the fact that he managed to send 4 BTC from all 3 of our addresses simultaneously is not compatible with how our system works. Also our system would have added a "win" message to a winning bet. I still think the hackers managed to get a hold of the private keys somehow.

In fact it looks like they then proceeded to take the spare change as well, in a number of transactions, as you can see here:
https://blockchain.info/address/1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA

There are several transactions to the same 16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM address, all from 2013-08-25. None correspond to an incoming transfer which would trigger our gaming system.

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You're talking about this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ed0638d8b13ac8c1c032c2e228a1fa03a394b5eae98dea056909e8783943ca41
right?

As you can see he sent 4 bitcoins to his address but the change (0.0357598) was sent back your address, if he had you private keys, why he would do that?

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Quote from: BRules on September 16, 2013, 12:48:08 PM

if he got your private keys, why he would send the change back to your address? why he didn't take all the coins?

In my opinion there is a flaw in your gaming system that he exploited.

I don't understand what you mean. You can clearly see here

https://blockchain.info/address/1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA
https://blockchain.info/address/1CUPh77AYNHfBibqLuRJvLSyuYPDRrsPV
https://blockchain.info/address/1cupbpTMyLZFPmoG2BW32hZk1d26wvGGh

That on 2013-08-25 our 3 addresses were emptied. He did take all the coins.

BRules

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if he got your private keys, why he would send the change back to your address? why he didn't take all the coins?

In my opinion there is a flaw in your gaming system that he exploited.

CoinGames

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Let me give a bit more info, since it seems that people here are willing to help.

Our gaming engine was not hacked. The hackers simply sent themselves the full balance of our 3 betting addresses which had just over 1 BTC each.

My guess is that they acquired the private keys for those addresses. Either by some flaw in the server's supposedly secure communications with blockchain.info or by exploiting some flaw with blockchain.info's online wallet's RNG.

The hacked addresses had been used many times over a 2 month period and were vanity addresses. So they would have been vulnerable to a flaw similar to the one in the blockchain mobile wallet.

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Bet at these addresses:
1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA ---1CUPh77AYNHfBibqLuRJvLSyuYPDRrsPV ---1cupbpTMyLZFPmoG2BW32hZk1d26wvGGh

From the activity I see at the receiving address, we were clearly not the only victims. Many more BTC were taken from others. I'm surprised nobody else has come up with a similar story.

The hacker owner of 16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM has taken over 400BTC... so somebody else must have seen this..

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Quote from: b!z on September 14, 2013, 11:45:10 PM

Quote from: CoinGames on September 14, 2013, 08:05:53 AM

By the way, CoinGames was recently hacked. Losing just over 4 BTC (thank goodness we were still in Beta!).

We are trying to find out who, and more importantly, how they did it. Any help would be appreciated.

We do know that the Bitcoin address that the coins were sent to is:

Hacker https://blockchain.info/address/16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

As you can see, they seem to have run off with almost 420 BTC, of which 4.18 BTC belonged to CoinGames.

So if anybody else has been a victim, or knows the owner of this address, let us know:
16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

But much more importantly, we want to know how. We were using the blockchain wallet and API, which is supposedly quite safe. I understand there have recently been some security issues with Android wallets, due to the Android faulty RNG, however this is the first I hear of problems with the online blockchain wallet.

Any help and/or info will be appreciated.

There was faulty RNG on desktop browsers too, I think.

Interesting. I missed that. Link please?

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Quote from: CoinGames on September 14, 2013, 08:05:53 AM

By the way, CoinGames was recently hacked. Losing just over 4 BTC (thank goodness we were still in Beta!).

We are trying to find out who, and more importantly, how they did it. Any help would be appreciated.

We do know that the Bitcoin address that the coins were sent to is:

Hacker https://blockchain.info/address/16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

As you can see, they seem to have run off with almost 420 BTC, of which 4.18 BTC belonged to CoinGames.

So if anybody else has been a victim, or knows the owner of this address, let us know:
16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

But much more importantly, we want to know how. We were using the blockchain wallet and API, which is supposedly quite safe. I understand there have recently been some security issues with Android wallets, due to the Android faulty RNG, however this is the first I hear of problems with the online blockchain wallet.

Any help and/or info will be appreciated.

There was faulty RNG on desktop browsers too, I think.

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