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hero member
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October 27, 2017, 05:20:25 PM
#45
Is this really a big deal for you on what websites are advertising. I mean I would maybe understand if a website would have a long term ad running or something that would suggest that they are supporting it or at least very aware of it, but for some short term ads that the stuff might not be able to track, I don't see a big problem. After all, The Pirate Bay has some pretty bad ads, but no one really cares.

Good point! Question: When will we start seeing ads for child porn? Or how about sales of illegal guns? Or maybe contract killing sites? By your reasoning, all mentioned are fair game. Besides, a wise man once said, "no one really cares."

I see a lot of people acting like it is objectively bad to say certain things, like we should all just gasp at any possibility of child pornography or whatever is taboo. I actually don't care. You can make child pornography legal, all I care, as long as no one gets physically hurt, it isn't a crime in my book.

The rest of things you mentioned are done by governments all the time, especially USA, so again, I am not that worried by ads for illegal stuff. It is just data to me, I don't care.

This is way too much. People like @aleksej996 need a treatment. Just try to spend you time on something more useful without looking like a total d*ck.

I'm locking now this topics as it's getting out of context.
legendary
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October 26, 2017, 02:32:54 PM
#44
Today I saw Coinmarketcap to advert a ponzi scheme site, promising 12% daily interest : https://laser.online/

Does such stuff make you loose faith and trust in sites who are advertising it?

https://i.imgur.com/JWykhnC.png
Coinmarketcap is a free service that is making its cash most especially from those ads you are looking at. It is left to you to know what to click and what not to click.

Moreover, most of these sites make use of a service like googleads and co which usually push any ad to the page and there is nothing you or coinmarketcap can do about it as long as they need funds to keep being operational. If you don't like seeing them, just get an adblock.
sr. member
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October 23, 2017, 02:40:56 PM
#43
You are honestly pretty fucking sick in your mind if that's really how you reason things. Seriously? You think childs make the porn themselves?

We are kinda going of the subject here so I wouldn't want to continue. But the actual creation of child pornography is a pretty hard subject to regulate, even when it is done by consent. But the actual people who watch it, sure, I don't care, doesn't hurt no one to watch.
legendary
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October 23, 2017, 02:36:22 PM
#42

I see a lot of people acting like it is objectively bad to say certain things, like we should all just gasp at any possibility of child pornography or whatever is taboo. I actually don't care. You can make child pornography legal, all I care, as long as no one gets physically hurt, it isn't a crime in my book.


You are honestly pretty fucking sick in your mind if that's really how you reason things. Seriously? You think childs make the porn themselves?

Is this really a big deal for you on what websites are advertising. I mean I would maybe understand if a website would have a long term ad running or something that would suggest that they are supporting it or at least very aware of it, but for some short term ads that the stuff might not be able to track, I don't see a big problem. After all, The Pirate Bay has some pretty bad ads, but no one really cares.

Piratebay is even worse indeed, but hey, that's the piratebay.

CMC uses both adsense and Cointraffic.io, and i know that cointraffic.io used to allow ponzis aswell.

Also, laser.online, for anyone concerned, is a completely scam in my book. Not only do they buy advertising, i have a feeling they buy traffic aswell, to increase SEO, and look at their twitter audit,

https://www.twitteraudit.com/LaserOnlineLLC - 16% real.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/laser.online -
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@orangeogre/riding-the-scam-again-laser-online

-/- Advanced laser systems, my ass..

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If you check their whole website, as well as the WHOIS details, you will find out completely mismatch information about their owner details. They claim to be from United States in their website and registered as LASER ONLINE LLC, but if you check the WHOIS details, you will find out that they have provided the address from United Arab Emirates and company's ownership under DotOnline Inc. So, which should we believe? Yep, there is a registered company in the name of LASER ONLINE LLC within Delaware, but there is not any proof that company is linked with Laser.Online in any means. If they are from USA, they should be listed in SEC (U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission) database to run an investment company, but you can't find out any information about LASER ONLINE LLC or Laser.Online within SEC database.
sr. member
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Do not trust the government
October 23, 2017, 02:27:24 PM
#41
Is this really a big deal for you on what websites are advertising. I mean I would maybe understand if a website would have a long term ad running or something that would suggest that they are supporting it or at least very aware of it, but for some short term ads that the stuff might not be able to track, I don't see a big problem. After all, The Pirate Bay has some pretty bad ads, but no one really cares.

Good point! Question: When will we start seeing ads for child porn? Or how about sales of illegal guns? Or maybe contract killing sites? By your reasoning, all mentioned are fair game. Besides, a wise man once said, "no one really cares."

I see a lot of people acting like it is objectively bad to say certain things, like we should all just gasp at any possibility of child pornography or whatever is taboo. I actually don't care. You can make child pornography legal, all I care, as long as no one gets physically hurt, it isn't a crime in my book.

The rest of things you mentioned are done by governments all the time, especially USA, so again, I am not that worried by ads for illegal stuff. It is just data to me, I don't care.
vip
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October 23, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
#40
Is this really a big deal for you on what websites are advertising. I mean I would maybe understand if a website would have a long term ad running or something that would suggest that they are supporting it or at least very aware of it, but for some short term ads that the stuff might not be able to track, I don't see a big problem. After all, The Pirate Bay has some pretty bad ads, but no one really cares.

Good point! Question: When will we start seeing ads for child porn? Or how about sales of illegal guns? Or maybe contract killing sites? By your reasoning, all mentioned are fair game. Besides, a wise man once said, "no one really cares."
sr. member
Activity: 490
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Do not trust the government
October 23, 2017, 02:14:23 PM
#39
Is this really a big deal for you on what websites are advertising. I mean I would maybe understand if a website would have a long term ad running or something that would suggest that they are supporting it or at least very aware of it, but for some short term ads that the stuff might not be able to track, I don't see a big problem. After all, The Pirate Bay has some pretty bad ads, but no one really cares.
vip
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October 23, 2017, 10:57:08 AM
#38
Today I saw Coinmarketcap to advert a ponzi scheme site, promising 12% daily interest : https://laser.online/

Does such stuff make you loose faith and trust in sites who are advertising it?

https://i.imgur.com/JWykhnC.png

Very likely coinmarketcap use banners taken from a third party platform, like an ad marketplace. Thus they don't even know which ads are displayed on their own website. This is vvery common among webmasters since such platforms are intermediaries which connect ad offer and of demand.


Coinmrket i think is just a regular site and May be it was paid by that company to advertise or promote its own site. Seeing it is acquiring many views, its good opportunity to advertise site links. Because I have seen many sites in coinmarket cap and annoying as they be, that is how a site is earning.

As someone who has a few years in the media as a journalist, I have come to realize that most media houses survive and are able to take care if running costs through patronage (money from advertisers who could be moneybags or unscrupulous politicians) I know and understand that. But there's always some reputable media houses that stay away from that. That is what CMC should be doing. It should stay away and not let go of its reputation because of some cash in the offing. It shouldn't be allowing fraudulent schemes advertise on its site. Doing that will make it lose face.


Boy, are you guys in for a shocker. Brace yourselves, for I'm about to drop a bombshell thanks to my in-depth research that took mega hours to conduct all on my own dime (as always, no tips solicited) ...

Scroll to the very bottom of CMC's page to find the following on the far left side:


Ignore the banner ad which was generated via Google Adsense, in my case, thanks to visiting the site and NOT via a search, alluding to that Google Chrome tracks more than you think.

Notice the "Advertise" link which I boxed in red. Following the the link, you arrive here ...

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSesk19wQostGxR3VTSXcsyvzIAK9bcsITyKLjsAR-bJjYB33Q/viewform


So that you busy guys don't have to, I filled out the form requesting info, using the minimal amount for a banner ad. I'll keep you abreast (the left one, for I favor the right breast).

Bruno

PS: Speaking of tracking, while checking my email I noticed a reply from Godaddy requesting to complete my order for some domains I researched (availability/pricing) while ... wait for it ... not being logged into their site. I wonder how the fuck they're able to pull that shit off.
legendary
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October 23, 2017, 10:22:55 AM
#37
Yes it does but it is not a new thing . Even google used to promote paisalive which is nothing but a piece of crap . They promise to pay  almost 2 usd for reading email . But its totally a BS .
You're right, and it's not even a question, most sites that have high impressions and high visitors each day will advertise anything as long the company/website/service pay them enough for the banner. Too many sites did that...

Bro this is common in any kind sites, so it is not bad only for bitcoin related site. Actually this kind of advertisement is normal is entertainment related site like Youtube, Movies download sites.
If they advertise that means they wanna get the profit and henceforth the added to their. Kindly ignore and go for the useful discussion buddy.

His been alerted the way he see the advertisement on platform and it is known site and newbie people who will see the ads posted at coinmarketcap will think that ads posted is legit eventhough it is been tag by the experience people as ponzi, And coinmarketcap should really keep out those ponzi site advertisement on there site so that people will not confused and get scam by those ponzi advertisements.

That kind of knowledge should changed bro that is why I have explained how to take the ads advertised in the coinmarketcap. Coinmarketcap is the legit site but the ads all displayed in the bitcoin related site you no need to bother those kind of ads are not relevant to legit way.
Check the members in the forum, you will get the better explanation from them.
hero member
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October 23, 2017, 03:51:58 AM
#36
Yes it does but it is not a new thing . Even google used to promote paisalive which is nothing but a piece of crap . They promise to pay  almost 2 usd for reading email . But its totally a BS .
You're right, and it's not even a question, most sites that have high impressions and high visitors each day will advertise anything as long the company/website/service pay them enough for the banner. Too many sites did that...

Bro this is common in any kind sites, so it is not bad only for bitcoin related site. Actually this kind of advertisement is normal is entertainment related site like Youtube, Movies download sites.
If they advertise that means they wanna get the profit and henceforth the added to their. Kindly ignore and go for the useful discussion buddy.

We can even see this almost everywhere and even facebook are advertising such ponzi sites. They can't regulate it, they are for the advertising that will cost their operation. There are even paid articles that has been done even not knowing what's the real precautions of a certain project or ICO.

@Coolwave, LOL! I was a victim before of those ads and I keep on following them until I realized that there's no real "reading email" job that promises good salary.
sr. member
Activity: 966
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October 23, 2017, 02:03:47 AM
#35
Yes it does but it is not a new thing . Even google used to promote paisalive which is nothing but a piece of crap . They promise to pay  almost 2 usd for reading email . But its totally a BS .
You're right, and it's not even a question, most sites that have high impressions and high visitors each day will advertise anything as long the company/website/service pay them enough for the banner. Too many sites did that...

Bro this is common in any kind sites, so it is not bad only for bitcoin related site. Actually this kind of advertisement is normal is entertainment related site like Youtube, Movies download sites.
If they advertise that means they wanna get the profit and henceforth the added to their. Kindly ignore and go for the useful discussion buddy.

His been alerted the way he see the advertisement on platform and it is known site and newbie people who will see the ads posted at coinmarketcap will think that ads posted is legit eventhough it is been tag by the experience people as ponzi, And coinmarketcap should really keep out those ponzi site advertisement on there site so that people will not confused and get scam by those ponzi advertisements.
legendary
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October 22, 2017, 10:31:10 PM
#34
Coinmrket i think is just a regular site and May be it was paid by that company to advertise or promote its own site. Seeing it is acquiring many views, its good opportunity to advertise site links. Because I have seen many sites in coinmarket cap and annoying as they be, that is how a site is earning.
As someone who has a few years in the media as a journalist, I have come to realize that most media houses survive and are able to take care if running costs through patronage (money from advertisers who could be moneybags or unscrupulous politicians) I know and understand that. But there's always some reputable media houses that stay away from that. That is what CMC should be doing. It should stay away and not let go of its reputation because of some cash in the offing. It shouldn't be allowing fraudulent schemes advertise on its site. Doing that will make it lose face.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1005
October 22, 2017, 09:34:30 AM
#33
Yes it does but it is not a new thing . Even google used to promote paisalive which is nothing but a piece of crap . They promise to pay  almost 2 usd for reading email . But its totally a BS .
You're right, and it's not even a question, most sites that have high impressions and high visitors each day will advertise anything as long the company/website/service pay them enough for the banner. Too many sites did that...

Bro this is common in any kind sites, so it is not bad only for bitcoin related site. Actually this kind of advertisement is normal is entertainment related site like Youtube, Movies download sites.
If they advertise that means they wanna get the profit and henceforth the added to their. Kindly ignore and go for the useful discussion buddy.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
October 22, 2017, 09:04:01 AM
#32
Today I saw Coinmarketcap to advert a ponzi scheme site, promising 12% daily interest : https://laser.online/

Does such stuff make you loose faith and trust in sites who are advertising it?

https://i.imgur.com/JWykhnC.png

Very likely coinmarketcap use banners taken from a third party platform, like an ad marketplace. Thus they don't even know which ads are displayed on their own website. This is vvery common among webmasters since such platforms are intermediaries which connect ad offer and of demand.
copper member
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October 22, 2017, 07:46:52 AM
#31
Yes it does but it is not a new thing . Even google used to promote paisalive which is nothing but a piece of crap . They promise to pay  almost 2 usd for reading email . But its totally a BS .
You're right, and it's not even a question, most sites that have high impressions and high visitors each day will advertise anything as long the company/website/service pay them enough for the banner. Too many sites did that...
full member
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Merit: 107
October 22, 2017, 07:06:10 AM
#30
Yes it does but it is not a new thing . Even google used to promote paisalive which is nothing but a piece of crap . They promise to pay  almost 2 usd for reading email . But its totally a BS .
sr. member
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October 22, 2017, 06:38:34 AM
#29
Actually, most sites depend on advertisements for their income, so even if they know that the site that is renting their space is a Ponzi or a scam, they allow it to somehow earn a revenue from it. CoinMarketCap is not the only one doing this, there are also other crypto-related services and networks that allow such advertisements. NewsBTC, CoinDesk, CoinTelegraph, and CryptoCoinsNews are just a few examples of sites where you'll find similar HYIP or Ponzi advertisements.
legendary
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October 22, 2017, 06:32:37 AM
#28
With being the top website for tracking cryptos, with a good number of newbies visiting daily, accepting shady ads isn't professional. But since CMC is dependent on ad-revenue and with an approximate minum budget of $10000 for an advertising campaign, do really have to think twice about approving shady ads? No.

On listing pre-mined/scam coins.

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Why are you listing [insert random cryptocurrency]? It's clearly a scam!

Nearly every crypocurrency has been called a scam at some point in its lifetime. We're not here to judge the merits of any cryptocurrency, but we provide the best tools for you to make your own conclusions. As long as it meets the listing criteria, it's eligible to be on the site.

Guess the same logic applies for they accepting Ponzi ads, we're not here to judge the merits of any ads, but for the users to conclude whether the ad is legit or scam.

https://coinmarketcap.com/faq/
hero member
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October 22, 2017, 04:11:01 AM
#27
Well it is definitely a worry that they are willing to advertising the kind of stuff on their site, but i'm pretty sure at the same time that they've got a little disclaimer down the bottom of these ads that basically says they've got nothing to do with the advertised site.

Here's the thing, they obviously need money in order to keep updating the site with new coins and maintaining it. They're doing it through advertising atm. I'm not sure this is the best way to do it, though.
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October 22, 2017, 03:59:36 AM
#26
When google could advertise sites such as myether(ponzi one, not the legit one) why can't coinmarketcap .
I don't say that the sites are wantedly promoting those scam sites but they themselves do not know of the fact.
They are just renting their advertising space and are unknown to the fact that they are scam sites.
Google always removes the advertisements which are scam when people report it to them.
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