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June 26, 2019, 05:40:18 PM
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can't tell if you're serious or just joking...Did you read the list? Nepal, Zambia, Syria, Vanuatu, Eritrea, etc...tell me, what crypto history do these countries have? 99% of people in this planet don't even know where most of those countries are on a map.
Syria has 1000s of years history afaik, it's not a new country which popped up a few 100 years ago. Not sure about Nepal, Zambia about their history but Eritrea is definitely the new one which I knew right now and I think I heard Vanuatu before.  Smiley
Oh, so the Phoenicians were using bitcoin a thousand year before it was invented?  Grin
In terms of crypto usage those countries of an importance trending between 0 and zero.
My reply to tomahawk9 was about the bold part, I haven't said Syria is using crypto from 1000s of years ago I guess. Just don't invent false meanings of other's posts, it looks odd imo.
Tomahawk9 asked a question about crypto history (see the bolded part) because that's what we're discussing here, we're talking about crypto payments, not digging relics, you jumped on it, misses the crypto part and tried to teach us a history lesson no one wanted, I made a joke about it, nobody got hurt, get over it and keep moving Tongue


"Crypto History" it was another sentence. I picked the other sentence where he said what he said. So what's wrong with that?

I know what we are discussing here as I have created the thread to people know about Coinpayments restrictions, you don't have to tell me, I know the topic.
Am I the first one here in Bitcointalk who went a little bit off-topic in a specific topic and answered a different thing of a different phrase?

As an example, in my other posts, I have said what I said and that can also be found in Lucius post but you have picked my little off-topic to troll here and picked other's post to post your comment -- the reason?

If my post to tomahawk9 was off-topic and no one was interested then don't you think your joke was also an off-topic same as mine?
You also went off-topic same as I mate..., it's not a topic for joke post, serious discussion going on here. You just can't go a little bit off-topic.

>>>insert care bear with hurt feelings here<<<
Woof Woof, someone is salty. It is okay honey, i care about history, gimme your lessons.
I was expecting to see such post from either one from a DT member or from a chipmixer participant or from the special ones (loved by DT and CM participants.)
I thought CM participants are like the "All knowing persons"... they know everything in land and sky... How come you don't know the history? very disappointing...

Don't want to counter the counter in this thread anymore -- if I do it will become totally an off-topic thread.
Anyway, I'm locking out this thread otherwise more trolls will start to support stompix because almost every CM participant will think he is right and I'm wrong.

Those who are interested in Coinpayments issue, please create a new thread. Regards!
legendary
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dogs are cute.
They gave me 1hr for support ticket but no response yet.

Anyway, I think they don't allow me to sell in these countries so I decided to disable their WordPress plugin temporary and find another alternative.


Already checked them from google but I don't see any trusted alternative for coinpayments and it looks I need to stay accept bitcoin with coinbase payment gateway.

What I'm looking right now is a woocommerce plugin for WordPress that accepts bitcoin and most of the altcoins just like copayments but it looks like no alternative yet that accept most of the altcoins.
Did they ever reply back to your support ticket?

Is the Woocommerce plugin a permanent alternative to CoinPayments?

can't tell if you're serious or just joking...Did you read the list? Nepal, Zambia, Syria, Vanuatu, Eritrea, etc...tell me, what crypto history do these countries have? 99% of people in this planet don't even know where most of those countries are on a map.
Syria has 1000s of years history afaik, it's not a new country which popped up a few 100 years ago. Not sure about Nepal, Zambia about their history but Eritrea is definitely the new one which I knew right now and I think I heard Vanuatu before.  Smiley
Oh, so the Phoenicians were using bitcoin a thousand year before it was invented?  Grin
In terms of crypto usage those countries of an importance trending between 0 and zero.
My reply to tomahawk9 was about the bold part, I haven't said Syria is using crypto from 1000s of years ago I guess. Just don't invent false meanings of other's posts, it looks odd imo.
Tomahawk9 asked a question about crypto history (see the bolded part) because that's what we're discussing here, we're talking about crypto payments, not digging relics, you jumped on it, misses the crypto part and tried to teach us a history lesson no one wanted, I made a joke about it, nobody got hurt, get over it and keep moving Tongue


"Crypto History" it was another sentence. I picked the other sentence where he said what he said. So what's wrong with that?

I know what we are discussing here as I have created the thread to people know about Coinpayments restrictions, you don't have to tell me, I know the topic.
Am I the first one here in Bitcointalk who went a little bit off-topic in a specific topic and answered a different thing of a different phrase?

As an example, in my other posts, I have said what I said and that can also be found in Lucius post but you have picked my little off-topic to troll here and picked other's post to post your comment -- the reason?

If my post to tomahawk9 was off-topic and no one was interested then don't you think your joke was also an off-topic same as mine?
You also went off-topic same as I mate..., it's not a topic for joke post, serious discussion going on here. You just can't go a little bit off-topic.

>>>insert care bear with hurt feelings here<<<
Woof Woof, someone is salty. It is okay honey, i care about history, gimme your lessons.
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can't tell if you're serious or just joking...Did you read the list? Nepal, Zambia, Syria, Vanuatu, Eritrea, etc...tell me, what crypto history do these countries have? 99% of people in this planet don't even know where most of those countries are on a map.
Syria has 1000s of years history afaik, it's not a new country which popped up a few 100 years ago. Not sure about Nepal, Zambia about their history but Eritrea is definitely the new one which I knew right now and I think I heard Vanuatu before.  Smiley
Oh, so the Phoenicians were using bitcoin a thousand year before it was invented?  Grin
In terms of crypto usage those countries of an importance trending between 0 and zero.
My reply to tomahawk9 was about the bold part, I haven't said Syria is using crypto from 1000s of years ago I guess. Just don't invent false meanings of other's posts, it looks odd imo.
Tomahawk9 asked a question about crypto history (see the bolded part) because that's what we're discussing here, we're talking about crypto payments, not digging relics, you jumped on it, misses the crypto part and tried to teach us a history lesson no one wanted, I made a joke about it, nobody got hurt, get over it and keep moving Tongue


"Crypto History" it was another sentence. I picked the other sentence where he said what he said. So what's wrong with that?

I know what we are discussing here as I have created the thread to people know about Coinpayments restrictions, you don't have to tell me, I know the topic.
Am I the first one here in Bitcointalk who went a little bit off-topic in a specific topic and answered a different thing of a different phrase?

As an example, in my other posts, I have said what I said and that can also be found in Lucius post but you have picked my little off-topic to troll here and picked other's post to post your comment -- the reason?

If my post to tomahawk9 was off-topic and no one was interested then don't you think your joke was also an off-topic same as mine?
You also went off-topic same as I mate..., it's not a topic for joke post, serious discussion going on here. You just can't go a little bit off-topic.

>>>insert care bear with hurt feelings here<<<
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can't tell if you're serious or just joking...Did you read the list? Nepal, Zambia, Syria, Vanuatu, Eritrea, etc...tell me, what crypto history do these countries have? 99% of people in this planet don't even know where most of those countries are on a map.
Syria has 1000s of years history afaik, it's not a new country which popped up a few 100 years ago. Not sure about Nepal, Zambia about their history but Eritrea is definitely the new one which I knew right now and I think I heard Vanuatu before.  Smiley
Oh, so the Phoenicians were using bitcoin a thousand year before it was invented?  Grin
In terms of crypto usage those countries of an importance trending between 0 and zero.
My reply to tomahawk9 was about the bold part, I haven't said Syria is using crypto from 1000s of years ago I guess. Just don't invent false meanings of other's posts, it looks odd imo.

Tomahawk9 asked a question about crypto history (see the bolded part) because that's what we're discussing here, we're talking about crypto payments, not digging relics, you jumped on it, misses the crypto part and tried to teach us a history lesson no one wanted, I made a joke about it, nobody got hurt, get over it and keep moving Tongue

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can't tell if you're serious or just joking...Did you read the list? Nepal, Zambia, Syria, Vanuatu, Eritrea, etc...tell me, what crypto history do these countries have? 99% of people in this planet don't even know where most of those countries are on a map.
Syria has 1000s of years history afaik, it's not a new country which popped up a few 100 years ago. Not sure about Nepal, Zambia about their history but Eritrea is definitely the new one which I knew right now and I think I heard Vanuatu before.  Smiley
Oh, so the Phoenicians were using bitcoin a thousand year before it was invented?  Grin
In terms of crypto usage those countries of an importance trending between 0 and zero.
My reply to tomahawk9 was about the bold part, I haven't said Syria is using crypto from 1000s of years ago I guess. Just don't invent false meanings of other's posts, it looks odd imo.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
can't tell if you're serious or just joking...Did you read the list? Nepal, Zambia, Syria, Vanuatu, Eritrea, etc...tell me, what crypto history do these countries have? 99% of people in this planet don't even know where most of those countries are on a map.
Syria has 1000s of years history afaik, it's not a new country which popped up a few 100 years ago. Not sure about Nepal, Zambia about their history but Eritrea is definitely the new one which I knew right now and I think I heard Vanuatu before.  Smiley
Oh, so the Phoenicians were using bitcoin a thousand year before it was invented?  Grin
In terms of crypto usage those countries of an importance trending between 0 and zero.

You think that's half the number of countries there are? What kind of Geography teacher took your class mate?

Jokes aside, this is probably because cryptos are declared illegal in those countries. Don't blame Coinpayments, burn those governments down to the ground to solve your problem.

It\s not really about cryptos, most of the countries are already on a lot of blacklists, indeed because of their government fault or because of civil wars going on but its not a crypto thing alone.


How about accepting payments from these countries listed above?

You as seller offer your product / service on open market, and any buyer can bypass restrictions imposed by CoinPayments in a way to use VPN,
which is ultimately one of the purposes of this software. You can just add another solution for blocked countries, but also leave CP as a primary solution.


Just as Lucius said, you don't have to do anything.
It's simply them informing you as a seller that you won't be able to accept buyers from those countries (if they detect them), but if they really want to buy your product they will find a way around it.

Since quite some time has passed, any impact on your sales?
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But I don't think their notification system is acting weird or anything like that, if you read carefully the email above it says "Your area has been selected", I think they're sending these emails to the users with IPs located in the countries Coinpayments will enforce the new Terms of service.
It seems you are right... You have a logical point there.
It is just a start maybe and they have started with some selected locations. Maybe they will implement the KYC requirement steadily all over the world.

Damn, I hate KYC and it's pain... We all should give an angry looking selfie Roll Eyes it will work like a silent protest. Cheesy
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I got notified about this email that is also send out to users a few days ago.
My best guess every user need to do kyc sooner or later.

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In order to maintain our high standards and operation in the evolving regulatory environment CoinPayments is now rolling out a KYC requirement in waves. Your area has been selected and in order to continue using our Merchant Services (buttons, API, etc.) you will need to complete KYC within 30 days at https://www.coinpayments.net/acct-kyc if you are only using us for Wallet Services (personal use of the wallets with no commercial activity) then KYC will not be required unless you want to remove your daily withdrawal limits.
I haven't got this email, it looks like Coinpayments has a weird news notification system imo, they send emails selectively to its users. Just wondering what could be the reason...
Yeah, I didn't get this email either, hell, I didn't even get the one in the OP.

But I don't think their notification system is acting weird or anything like that, if you read carefully the email above it says "Your area has been selected", I think they're sending these emails to the users with IPs located in the countries Coinpayments will enforce the new Terms of service.
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haven't got this email, it looks like Coinpayments has a weird news notification system imo, they send emails selectively to its users. Just wondering what could be the reason...

Not liking the KYC thing everywhere for everything... What do you guys think, will we be seeing KYC for Faucets in the future?  Cheesy
Don't give them any ideas... Wink

I definitely think KYC is coming to more and more crypto-related services in the near future as governmental pressure on crypto continues to grow, but this will hopefully at the same time increase the demand for more decentralized solutions such as decentralized exchanges in the area of trading. There's still plenty of improvements that can be made for DEXes, and I may very well consider using one in the future.
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I got notified about this email that is also send out to users a few days ago.
My best guess every user need to do kyc sooner or later.

Quote
In order to maintain our high standards and operation in the evolving regulatory environment CoinPayments is now rolling out a KYC requirement in waves. Your area has been selected and in order to continue using our Merchant Services (buttons, API, etc.) you will need to complete KYC within 30 days at https://www.coinpayments.net/acct-kyc if you are only using us for Wallet Services (personal use of the wallets with no commercial activity) then KYC will not be required unless you want to remove your daily withdrawal limits.
I haven't got this email, it looks like Coinpayments has a weird news notification system imo, they send emails selectively to its users. Just wondering what could be the reason...

Not liking the KYC thing everywhere for everything... What do you guys think, will we be seeing KYC for Faucets in the future?  Cheesy
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I do not like service like coinpayments and bitpay. Crypto will better off without them. Crypto is here for everyone not for this and that country.
...You can't hate businesses because they're businesses and try to comply with some shitty rules set up by control freaks...

..PayPal is just as shitty, perhaps even worse. They close accounts of people because they **think** that people are buying and selling crypto or things related to crypto...


You can't hate businesses because they're businesses and try to comply with crazy rules and are forced to forbid the platform to some countries Cheesy If the company had the choice it would probably accept all countries and almost all activities. In addition, the list of blacklisted countries often appear in payment processors and everything related to money.

+1 for BTCPay for an alternative to CP.
What have I missed here LOL @LeGaulois
I am trying to understand the colored text from 1Referee. I smell some humor but can not just get it :-P
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I got notified about this email that is also send out to users a few days ago.
My best guess every user need to do kyc sooner or later.

Quote
In order to maintain our high standards and operation in the evolving regulatory environment CoinPayments is now rolling out a KYC requirement in waves. Your area has been selected and in order to continue using our Merchant Services (buttons, API, etc.) you will need to complete KYC within 30 days at https://www.coinpayments.net/acct-kyc if you are only using us for Wallet Services (personal use of the wallets with no commercial activity) then KYC will not be required unless you want to remove your daily withdrawal limits.
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New York state is pretty notorious for its Bitlicense on cryptocurrency-related services and products (which a crypto-related service must have to operate in the NY State), but sucks that there are so many people that won't be able to use this crypto payment gateway anymore. Hopefully people do not use Bitpay's payment gateway as an alternative, because of the drama with them requiring payment URLs.
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Jokes aside, this is probably because cryptos are declared illegal in those countries. Don't blame Coinpayments, burn those governments down to the ground to solve your problem.

I did not hear that cryptocurrency is illegal in USA, but two states from there is on list - so this is very likely some black list composed from countries which in some way or completely do not obey to all possible laws on the prevention of money laundering, terrorism, KYC procedures...

How about accepting payments from these countries listed above?

You as seller offer your product / service on open market, and any buyer can bypass restrictions imposed by CoinPayments in a way to use VPN,
which is ultimately one of the purposes of this software. You can just add another solution for blocked countries, but also leave CP as a primary solution.
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They gave me 1hr for support ticket but no response yet.

Anyway, I think they don't allow me to sell in these countries so I decided to disable their WordPress plugin temporary and find another alternative.


Already checked them from google but I don't see any trusted alternative for coinpayments and it looks I need to stay accept bitcoin with coinbase payment gateway.

What I'm looking right now is a woocommerce plugin for WordPress that accepts bitcoin and most of the altcoins just like copayments but it looks like no alternative yet that accept most of the altcoins.
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Their list is basically half the countries on this Earth lol I don't know how they're going to run business by restricting their services to the countries which have a good crypto history. They're good enough for informing people about it and willing to refund by talking to their support. It's rare to see such nice things in the crypto world lol

You think that's half the number of countries there are? What kind of Geography teacher took your class mate?

Jokes aside, this is probably because cryptos are declared illegal in those countries. Don't blame Coinpayments, burn those governments down to the ground to solve your problem.
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I do not like service like coinpayments and bitpay. Crypto will better off without them. Crypto is here for everyone not for this and that country.
...You can't hate businesses because they're businesses and try to comply with some shitty rules set up by control freaks...

..PayPal is just as shitty, perhaps even worse. They close accounts of people because they **think** that people are buying and selling crypto or things related to crypto...


You can't hate businesses because they're businesses and try to comply with crazy rules and are forced to forbid the platform to some countries Cheesy If the company had the choice it would probably accept all countries and almost all activities. In addition, the list of blacklisted countries often appear in payment processors and everything related to money.

+1 for BTCPay for an alternative to CP.
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These aren't surprising at all given the fact that they are all historically countries that are sanctioned by the US or other countries, and the states of the US that they have included in there are also historically restricted from accessing crypto related services.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how they are handling this situation though.

A lot of exchanges/services would take advantage of the situation and make it extremely difficult for these users to withdraw their funds, especially past the notice date. But they seem to be quite supportive. It's still up in the air how they practically handle this, though.
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I do not like service like coinpayments and bitpay. Crypto will better off without them. Crypto is here for everyone not for this and that country.
You can't hate businesses because they're businesses and try to comply with some shitty rules set up by control freaks. The alternative for them is to be taken down by force, which is why they rather leave. Looking at the list of countries they don't provide services to anymore, I'm sure that Coinpayments won't be losing much revenue at all.

BitPay is a slightly different story because of their anti Bitcoin stance, so yes, in this case we are way better off without them.

My suggestion to the people who are using coinpayments and bitpay, why not use Paypal instead?
PayPal is just as shitty, perhaps even worse. They close accounts of people because they **think** that people are buying and selling crypto or things related to crypto.

Best option is to use BTCPay Server, where you as merchant at all times control the funds and don't rely on BitPay, Coinpayments, etc.
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I do not like service like coinpayments and bitpay. Crypto will better off without them. Crypto is here for everyone not for this and that country. My suggestion to the people who are using coinpayments and bitpay, why not use Paypal instead?
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