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DrG
legendary
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July 27, 2014, 02:19:40 AM
#65
You can move the wallet to linux

Install bitcoin-qt in linux ( ubuntu ) and move the existing wallet.dat to that

This makes the wallet more secure than windows

If he used it on Windows before, it would be pretty much useless. Your wallet.dat might be exposed to all kinds of malware on Windows. Therefore, if you move it to Linux, the attacker would have your key and can steal your BTC.

Do you realize how difficult you are making this?  How many Windows based people would know how to find an Ubuntu install and burn a copy.  Of those, how many would be able to get the OS installed and run bitcoin-qt in under 1 day?  Telling Windows based people to move to Linux is not helpful.  People who are familiar with Linux can do this, people who are young and have time can do this.  With the exception of miners, I would say Windows based bitcoin-qt easily accounts for 85% of all the offline wallets.

All this talk of malware is quite useless.  If you still have the coins in your wallet, use this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0 and pick a wallet on an OS that you're comfortable using.  Switching to a new OS while trying to secure your wallet = lost coins.  Once you have a secured wallet, simply move your coins from the unsecured wallet to the secured wallet - problem solved.

I know for a fact the average american wouldnt know what the fuck ubuntu is and explain why would they change their current OS lol.


Exactly.  It would be wise for the Windows users to learn Linux if they plan on getting involved with mining or have an intense need to minimize their risks, but playing with a OS they're not familiar with is asking for disaster.  BAMT is pretty much mindless plug and play mining and still 95% of computer users wouldn't be able to mine in 1 day with it.

There are plenty of viable and secure Windows options as I linked - people should use them.  Linux users usually know where their vulnerabilities are.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
July 26, 2014, 01:15:04 PM
#64
You can move the wallet to linux

Install bitcoin-qt in linux ( ubuntu ) and move the existing wallet.dat to that

This makes the wallet more secure than windows

If he used it on Windows before, it would be pretty much useless. Your wallet.dat might be exposed to all kinds of malware on Windows. Therefore, if you move it to Linux, the attacker would have your key and can steal your BTC.

Do you realize how difficult you are making this?  How many Windows based people would know how to find an Ubuntu install and burn a copy.  Of those, how many would be able to get the OS installed and run bitcoin-qt in under 1 day?  Telling Windows based people to move to Linux is not helpful.  People who are familiar with Linux can do this, people who are young and have time can do this.  With the exception of miners, I would say Windows based bitcoin-qt easily accounts for 85% of all the offline wallets.

All this talk of malware is quite useless.  If you still have the coins in your wallet, use this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0 and pick a wallet on an OS that you're comfortable using.  Switching to a new OS while trying to secure your wallet = lost coins.  Once you have a secured wallet, simply move your coins from the unsecured wallet to the secured wallet - problem solved.

I know for a fact the average american wouldnt know what the fuck ubuntu is and explain why would they change their current OS lol.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
A pumpkin mines 27 hours a night
July 26, 2014, 10:57:22 AM
#63
You can move the wallet to linux

Install bitcoin-qt in linux ( ubuntu ) and move the existing wallet.dat to that

This makes the wallet more secure than windows

I'm wondering is this necessarily true.  Considering that there are a lot more windows viruses BUT a lot more windows users compared to less linux viruses but a lot less linux users.

Virus creators just don't care to target Linux machines. The majority is using Windows. Also, people who use Linux statistically are more savvy and less prone to fall for an attack. Also, you could argue whether people using Linux actually have that much money as people using Windows or OS X do. But that discussion could end violently.
sr. member
Activity: 433
Merit: 251
July 26, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
#62
You can move the wallet to linux

Install bitcoin-qt in linux ( ubuntu ) and move the existing wallet.dat to that

This makes the wallet more secure than windows

I'm wondering is this necessarily true.  Considering that there are a lot more windows viruses BUT a lot more windows users compared to less linux viruses but a lot less linux users.
DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
July 25, 2014, 06:39:55 AM
#61
You can move the wallet to linux

Install bitcoin-qt in linux ( ubuntu ) and move the existing wallet.dat to that

This makes the wallet more secure than windows

If he used it on Windows before, it would be pretty much useless. Your wallet.dat might be exposed to all kinds of malware on Windows. Therefore, if you move it to Linux, the attacker would have your key and can steal your BTC.

Do you realize how difficult you are making this?  How many Windows based people would know how to find an Ubuntu install and burn a copy.  Of those, how many would be able to get the OS installed and run bitcoin-qt in under 1 day?  Telling Windows based people to move to Linux is not helpful.  People who are familiar with Linux can do this, people who are young and have time can do this.  With the exception of miners, I would say Windows based bitcoin-qt easily accounts for 85% of all the offline wallets.

All this talk of malware is quite useless.  If you still have the coins in your wallet, use this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0 and pick a wallet on an OS that you're comfortable using.  Switching to a new OS while trying to secure your wallet = lost coins.  Once you have a secured wallet, simply move your coins from the unsecured wallet to the secured wallet - problem solved.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
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July 25, 2014, 05:48:18 AM
#60
You can move the wallet to linux

Install bitcoin-qt in linux ( ubuntu ) and move the existing wallet.dat to that

This makes the wallet more secure than windows

If he used it on Windows before, it would be pretty much useless. Your wallet.dat might be exposed to all kinds of malware on Windows. Therefore, if you move it to Linux, the attacker would have your key and can steal your BTC.
member
Activity: 118
Merit: 100
July 25, 2014, 05:35:02 AM
#59
You can move the wallet to linux

Install bitcoin-qt in linux ( ubuntu ) and move the existing wallet.dat to that

This makes the wallet more secure than windows
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 25, 2014, 05:24:57 AM
#58
downoad linux on your laptop and be worry free Cheesy

no need for anything else, perhaps maybe only setting a password on the file..

Must also remember install updates (if not configured automatic). Otherwise malware like Mayhem (http://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=2813) can hit.
DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
July 25, 2014, 04:30:30 AM
#57
Unless you make $120 an hour, if you spend 5 hours in this subforum reading you will learn how to secure a wallet and also be able to pick a wallet that suits your needs.  1 Bitcoin is about $620, so 5 hours is about $120 saved per hour if you have even 1 coin in your wallet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0
legendary
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July 25, 2014, 03:32:48 AM
#56
My stolen BTC ended up in this accout:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Crspt3Fbx1jdWMmm2uFwzfQfvsmZvnwHg

and he/she continues in my opinion to steal from other wallets, too!

This guy had received about 0.88990851 BTC and the final balance is now about 0.0001 BTC and nobody can't stop these machinations.
That may or may not be his actual address, he might have used a mixer and mixed his coins. It can also be a shared wallet which everyone's balance is sent to one address.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
July 24, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
#55
Just learn from your mistake, theres nothing you can do to recover any coin.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
July 24, 2014, 10:14:47 AM
#54
My stolen BTC ended up in this accout:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Crspt3Fbx1jdWMmm2uFwzfQfvsmZvnwHg

and he/she continues in my opinion to steal from other wallets, too!

This guy had received about 0.88990851 BTC and the final balance is now about 0.0001 BTC and nobody can't stop these machinations.
There are many stickies about security, you should read it before doing anything with BTC.
If you have money, try to make bounty thread.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
July 23, 2014, 12:10:39 PM
#53
My stolen BTC ended up in this accout:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Crspt3Fbx1jdWMmm2uFwzfQfvsmZvnwHg

and he/she continues in my opinion to steal from other wallets, too!

This guy had received about 0.88990851 BTC and the final balance is now about 0.0001 BTC and nobody can't stop these machinations.
hero member
Activity: 561
Merit: 500
July 23, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
#52
For maximum security, use maximum paranoia. Assume that any script or wallet he gives you is invasive malware that's intent on stealing your bitcoins.

Create a brand new wallet (on a different machine, that's never had his stuff installed) using the standard client and configuration (not anything that he set up for you), and send any remaining bitcoins from your old wallet to your new one.

Then delete both the bitcoind wallet and game script, and if in doubt, wipe the computer(s) that had them installed and only reinstall trusted things.

For a lower, but still reasonable, level of security/paranoia, create a new wallet with a new password and transfer the old wallet's bitcoins to it. It's important to not reuse a possibly-compromised wallet, even with a new password and new addresses, because of the key pool. This pool basically means that he's (possibly) already downloaded your private keys, not just for your past addresses, but for your next 100, too.

And if possible, inspect the game script for anything suspicious, or simply stop using it. Or use it only on a computer that cannot access the bitcoins, and in which you never type your wallet password.

In any case, do not use any passwords (RPC, wallet, etc.) or wallets that he gave you, since they could be compromised.

For maximum security, you could simply just format the disk, get a clean install of Linux and create a new offline wallet or paper wallet. Smiley
legendary
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July 23, 2014, 09:24:33 AM
#51
If my pc is secure, do I have to worry about other people on the same network, their PC being not secure (ie filled with virus/malware)?
You have to worry about them somehow, there are viruses that can be spread across the same network and you have a chance of being infected too. Especially if you are using a Windows OS.
sr. member
Activity: 433
Merit: 251
July 23, 2014, 09:18:46 AM
#50
If my pc is secure, do I have to worry about other people on the same network, their PC being not secure (ie filled with virus/malware)?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Currently held as collateral by monbux
July 23, 2014, 07:16:42 AM
#49
For maximum security, use maximum paranoia. Assume that any script or wallet he gives you is invasive malware that's intent on stealing your bitcoins.

Create a brand new wallet (on a different machine, that's never had his stuff installed) using the standard client and configuration (not anything that he set up for you), and send any remaining bitcoins from your old wallet to your new one.

Then delete both the bitcoind wallet and game script, and if in doubt, wipe the computer(s) that had them installed and only reinstall trusted things.

For a lower, but still reasonable, level of security/paranoia, create a new wallet with a new password and transfer the old wallet's bitcoins to it. It's important to not reuse a possibly-compromised wallet, even with a new password and new addresses, because of the key pool. This pool basically means that he's (possibly) already downloaded your private keys, not just for your past addresses, but for your next 100, too.

And if possible, inspect the game script for anything suspicious, or simply stop using it. Or use it only on a computer that cannot access the bitcoins, and in which you never type your wallet password.

In any case, do not use any passwords (RPC, wallet, etc.) or wallets that he gave you, since they could be compromised.

Just follow the steps of creating a paper wallet downloading the wallet is a huge risk and being connected to the internet is also a huge risk.
legendary
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July 23, 2014, 07:15:08 AM
#48
For maximum security, use maximum paranoia. Assume that any script or wallet he gives you is invasive malware that's intent on stealing your bitcoins.

Create a brand new wallet (on a different machine, that's never had his stuff installed) using the standard client and configuration (not anything that he set up for you), and send any remaining bitcoins from your old wallet to your new one.

Then delete both the bitcoind wallet and game script, and if in doubt, wipe the computer(s) that had them installed and only reinstall trusted things.

For a lower, but still reasonable, level of security/paranoia, create a new wallet with a new password and transfer the old wallet's bitcoins to it. It's important to not reuse a possibly-compromised wallet, even with a new password and new addresses, because of the key pool. This pool basically means that he's (possibly) already downloaded your private keys, not just for your past addresses, but for your next 100, too.

And if possible, inspect the game script for anything suspicious, or simply stop using it. Or use it only on a computer that cannot access the bitcoins, and in which you never type your wallet password.

In any case, do not use any passwords (RPC, wallet, etc.) or wallets that he gave you, since they could be compromised.
You would be likely infected if you download the wallet, even if you copied it from elsewhere, your other computer could have been infected and you loaded the drive to the other computer, resulting in another infected computer. To be honest, I'm thinking some viruses can immediately dump your private key once you have generated a wallet, it is the best to use it on a offline computer.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
July 23, 2014, 07:07:16 AM
#47
For maximum security, use maximum paranoia. Assume that any script or wallet he gives you is invasive malware that's intent on stealing your bitcoins.

Create a brand new wallet (on a different machine, that's never had his stuff installed) using the standard client and configuration (not anything that he set up for you), and send any remaining bitcoins from your old wallet to your new one.

Then delete both the bitcoind wallet and game script, and if in doubt, wipe the computer(s) that had them installed and only reinstall trusted things.

For a lower, but still reasonable, level of security/paranoia, create a new wallet with a new password and transfer the old wallet's bitcoins to it. It's important to not reuse a possibly-compromised wallet, even with a new password and new addresses, because of the key pool. This pool basically means that he's (possibly) already downloaded your private keys, not just for your past addresses, but for your next 100, too.

And if possible, inspect the game script for anything suspicious, or simply stop using it. Or use it only on a computer that cannot access the bitcoins, and in which you never type your wallet password.

In any case, do not use any passwords (RPC, wallet, etc.) or wallets that he gave you, since they could be compromised.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Currently held as collateral by monbux
July 23, 2014, 07:03:56 AM
#46
anyone can explain how to anticipate for stolen a bitcoin from wallet?

What do you mean? how to prepare your wallet so its harder for it to get stolen?
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