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Topic: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details. (Read 6697 times)

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Gerald Davis
Generally hosting is charged by the KW and not by the space it consumes so ther would be no difference in cost for requiring more rack space

Well generally it is charged by both. 

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Also the more important Criteria is cooling. Generally there is a limit of 8-10 kW per rack and usually it's less than 10 KW per rack. Few data centers allow more.

Many do if you are using a private cage.  Depending on the provider you can get up to ~25 KW (two 60A 208 drops).  Beyond that is probably going to require three phase.

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Thus you will be sparsely populating these Bitcoin mining equipment on the racks with plenty of air in between regardless of 2U or 4U box size so in practice it would take the same amount of rack apace regardless of box size. And cooling these power hungry chips is very important cos they're temperature sensitive and run faster when they're cooler.

If you are putting 1 U space between units then it is 3U vs 5U still means less units per rack.   At 5U (4U unit plus 1U space).  You are looking at only 8 units per rack.  If it is 2 TH/s and pulls 0.8 J/GH (at the wall) it is "only" 12 KW per rack.  Granted it isn't the end of the world and for most users it probably makes no difference but it does mean less density.  I though 1 TH/U was pretty aggressive.
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System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?


If someone was looking to rent an entire datacenter rack.  They would get 25.2 TH per rack using HF and "only" 20 TH per rack using Cointerra.  The older spec would have been 42 TH per rack.

Generally hosting is charged by the KW and not by the space it consumes so ther would be no difference in cost for requiring more rack space

Also the more important Criteria is cooling. Generally there is a limit of 8-10 kW per rack and usually it's less than 10 KW per rack. Few data centers allow more. Thus you will be sparsely populating these Bitcoin mining equipment on the racks with plenty of air in between regardless of 2U or 4U box size so in practice it would take the same amount of rack apace regardless of box size. And cooling these power hungry chips is very important cos they're temperature sensitive and run faster when they're cooler.


Then why didn't they think of that in the first place?

Its like promising a 4x4 then deciding you dont need rear wheel drive and just saying "here is your 2x4, its better I promise".
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System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?


If someone was looking to rent an entire datacenter rack.  They would get 25.2 TH per rack using HF and "only" 20 TH per rack using Cointerra.  The older spec would have been 42 TH per rack.

Generally hosting is charged by the KW and not by the space it consumes so ther would be no difference in cost for requiring more rack space

Also the more important Criteria is cooling. Generally there is a limit of 8-10 kW per rack and usually it's less than 10 KW per rack. Few data centers allow more. Thus you will be sparsely populating these Bitcoin mining equipment on the racks with plenty of air in between regardless of 2U or 4U box size so in practice it would take the same amount of rack apace regardless of box size. And cooling these power hungry chips is very important cos they're temperature sensitive and run faster when they're cooler.

legendary
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Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! Smiley
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Still no response.

It hasn't even been 24 hours.

Eaaaaaassssssssyyyyyyyy.  Smiley
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Gerald Davis
System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?


If someone was looking to rent an entire datacenter rack.  They would get 25.2 TH per rack using HF and "only" 20 TH per rack using Cointerra.  The older spec would have been 42 TH per rack.
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System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?
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Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! Smiley
Shot yall a PM Smiley
Still no response.
sr. member
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Yeah the case size increase isn't pretty. Hashfast is sticking with their 2U case size story for sierra(1.2Th).
legendary
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System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.
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We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

To watch the video and read the full release, please head to http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/ .

The screenshot in the video shows solo-mining on the testnet. The first block created there was block #106507 at Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:52:32 GMT. We also mined on eligius (statistics at http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P17UueqcMDw2P8FWv8Ny4ryGopicQmJPN).

Timo

Thanks for the link! Grin
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We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

Tape-out due: 1st week of October


If you just got the FPGA to work, how can you complete the back-end trial-run, back-end final-run and functional verification in 1 week?


The Backend process has been going on for weeks. Functional verification is long done.
It is not a serial process. We are taping out 1st week of Oct.
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We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

To watch the video and read the full release, please head to http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/ .

The screenshot in the video shows solo-mining on the testnet. The first block created there was block #106507 at Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:52:32 GMT. We also mined on eligius (statistics at http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P17UueqcMDw2P8FWv8Ny4ryGopicQmJPN).

Timo
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We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

Tape-out due: 1st week of October


If you just got the FPGA to work, how can you complete the back-end trial-run, back-end final-run and functional verification in 1 week?
legendary
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3 (square) dies in a package seems a strange choice. Are you putting in 4 and having one for redundancy?  Or was the number chosen to keep cooling manageable?
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Owner, Minersource.net
Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! Smiley
Shot yall a PM Smiley
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Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! Smiley
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also - why must we have another thread outside the original one???

-2 pts for that/this bullshit
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going from a working FPGA to an ASIC isnt a simple task.....    I'd save the bragging for when you have a functional prototype.....


just my 2 cents

True, but just check out the pedigree of their team.
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going from a working FPGA to an ASIC isnt a simple task.....    I'd save the bragging for when you have a functional prototype.....


just my 2 cents
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