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Where's my bitcoins?
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Hello, I deposited 0.05 BTC to my account here on CoinURL yesterday.
I sent the bitcoins to this address:
18o4uzXXeGAXDrmGTGzxG6PwRts2PfCPhw
This was about 10 hours ago. It said on your withdrawal page that the address would be valid for 24 hours and that you required no confirmations, I would receive the bitcoins immediately in my account.
As of now the trasaction has had 79 confirmations but my account has not yet been credited with a balance of 0.05 BTC.
Please add 0.05 BTC to the balance of my CoinURL-account ("mikper") or return my bitcoins by sending 0.05 BTC to:
12xnudzjCd9Ju8z3djqUscJ5mbjRZyv7u1
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Re: Where's my bitcoins?
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Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]> Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 6:20 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
Sorry about this, this whole last week has been nuts.
Here's 0.1 BTC voucher for CoinURL:
ID: 51f5451aa3eeb432278541
Code: 0a466df8bdb3c4113ee5c3d216ae5c7c
Cheers!
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Richard Vialoux
CoinURL.com: Internet Advertising
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Me <
[email protected]> Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:24 PM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
Thanks a lot!
While we're talking, I plan on making a safe-for-work ad campaign for:
http://bfg.swfchan.com/?startI trust this is okay? The reason I'm asking is because while swfchan itself contains adult material the page I plan to advertise for has no such material (even the ads are turned off on that page). So it should be alright to categorize it as being non-pornographic right? As you can see it is clean.
Btw, where do you set such content-related properties for the ads? I plan on making the ad interstitial but I see no such options to set it as SFW or NSFW?
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Me <
[email protected]> Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:16 PM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
So should I just create the campaign or what?
(Sorry but I expected a reply within a day again since that was the last amount of time I had to wait for a reply.)
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Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]> Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:56 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
Sorry! You can go ahead and create the campaign.
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Me <
[email protected]> Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:44 AM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
Fantastic, thanks
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Me <
[email protected]> Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:50 PM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
Do you think you could approve my interstitial ad campaign on coinurl.com? You said it would be okay via mail but it also need to be approved on the site, I don't mean to be a bother but I've been waiting one and a half days now. Thanks
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Me <
[email protected]> Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:21 PM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
Where's my ad?
Now when I am logged in and go to
https://coinurl.com/profile-ads.php I don't see my ad!
Both active and history is blank. My account still only has 0.1 BTC and not 0.15 BTC like it should have if my ad didn't run.
Since my ad didn't run (is not in history) and is no loger pending (is not in active) I draw the conclusion that you have decided not to run my ad after all, even though you said so during our email conversation.
Please refund my 0.5 BTC that I put into the ad campain that you have denied.
If you don't plan to allow me to advertise the BFG program at all on CoinURL I would like to withdraw all of my bitcoins from my account since they won't be used. If so, please send 0.15 BTC to this bitcoin address:
12xnudzjCd9Ju8z3djqUscJ5mbjRZyv7u1
Thanks.
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Me <
[email protected]> Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:22 PM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
>Please refund my 0.5 BTC that I put into the ad campain that you have denied.
Correction: That should be 0.05 BTC, I missed typing one zero.
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Me <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:42 AM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
Are you ignoring me all of a sudden? Could you please respond to my previous e-mail?
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Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
Hello, I'm Matt, an employee of CoinUrl, sorry I haven't responded to your previous emails, it is because I am not that qualified to handle payments. I will try and get a hold of Richard, however, he is very busy, to the point that no one can get in contact with him. Please bare with us whilst we try and fix your problem.
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Me <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:54 PM
To: Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]>
Hello Matt, I've gotten a response from Richard. Thanks for reaching him for me
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Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
Not a problem, hope to talk to you in the near future.
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Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:07 AM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
Hey Mikael!
I have no idea what happened there. 99.99% chance the developer denied it. Since I am so extremely busy (and I'm not ignoring anyone, I just unfortunately work full time so I only have a couple hours per day to work on the site) I have some employees who work for me. I have a full time developer who is a real life saver, he is extremely knowledgeable and is continually tweaking performance and adding new features, as well as the main admin for the site. I have recently hired another mod who is starting to work on the site to approve ads and answer emails, but he is still very fresh. It just gets to the point where I can't possibly return all these emails, but the site is doing well enough to hire help so that's the initiative I am taking.
I personally have no problem with any ad campaign that doesn't have malware and doesn't break our frame. The site originally was set up with filters to allow these sorts of adult material to be advertised yet filtered out for users who don't want it, and I think it works great. However my developer is strongly against it.. I agree with him that we should be as family friendly as possible but at the same time, there is a massive market for these grey market areas so my plan is to set up a clone of CoinURL on a different domain (which I've already started to set up) that is going to be my "anything goes" ad marketplace.
I've looked at the page you linked me to (
http://bfg.swfchan.com/?start) and I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Maybe it's still pending? I wouldn't fret about if it takes awhile to get set up with CoinURL right now, as we continue to grow we will keep adding services and staff to accommodate everyone. I don't even mind about the Bitcoin amount, I will happily refund your balance AND give you the credit for your initial campaign to try it out simply to have another advertiser on board. If *everyone* used CoinURL to the fullest we would be untouchable, but unfortunately we have an excess amount of publishers and a lacking of advertisers so when people make campaigns, there is so much traffic that it eats their balances away and they are forced to bid lower and lower to make it last, all the while getting a fantastic deal for the traffic, it is discouraging to our publishers when they see they get like 1 penny for their clicks. But, such is life. We are doing our best.
Let me know what you want to do, if you contact me when you have your ad pending and I approve it right then, and it's approved, you can add to the balance at any time to keep it topped up without needing to get it approved again, so it is permanent unless you change it's URL. If there are variations to the URLs you want to advertise, submit a few of them so you have them all approved and you can leave them paused for later. The thing I like about your page is that it doesn't contain any visuals that someone would find offensive right off the bat.
Talk to you soon!
- Richard
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Me <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:53 PM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
Okay, thanks for the response.
At the moment I would like to have my 0.15 BTC refunded and sent to this address:
12xnudzjCd9Ju8z3djqUscJ5mbjRZyv7u1
I will give CoinURL a chance again later, but for now I feel it's best to wait until things become more stable. If you can, please tell me the URL of that CoinURL clone that you are setting up so I can check it out when it's finished.
Thank you
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Five days later
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Me <
[email protected]> Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:28 AM
To: Richard Vialoux <
[email protected]>
Hello!
It's been five days now, I know that you are busy but I would like you to finish our business so I (and you) can move on.
As I stated in my previous mail, please send 0.15 BTC to this address:
12xnudzjCd9Ju8z3djqUscJ5mbjRZyv7u1
Thank you
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Me <
[email protected]> Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:31 AM
To: Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]>
Hello!
I don't want to be a bother but could you get a hold of Richard again for me? I've been waiting for a email reply from him for five days now. I know he's busy but after this there shouldn't be necessary for me to contact again.
Thanks mate
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Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]> Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:18 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
Sure, I'll try my best, like you, I've been trying to get a hold of him for a while. I'll get right on it, and on behalf of CoinUrl, I sincerely apologize about what has happened and I hope that this won't happen again.
Thanks, Matt.
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Me <
[email protected]> Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:59 AM
To: Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]>
Cheers, I hope you get a hold of him soon
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Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]> Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
All right, so Richard is busy but I have the back story of your complaint. So first off, you can't withdraw a gift voucher, unfortunately. What I would suggest is that you just use the voucher on a small ad campaign and we will get someone to approve it for you.
Thanks for your co-operation.
Matt.
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Me <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM
To: Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]>
Okay, but what about the bitcoins that wasn't a gift voucher? Can you please refund them.
I sent 0.05 BTC to you. They didn't show up in my account. I contacted Richard, he put 0.05 BTC in my account and gave me 0.1 BTC for my trouble (but not really, since you can't withdraw a "gift voucher" apparently).
He said my site was OK to advertise via mail. I created a test campaign worth 0.05 BTC (leaving 0.1 BTC left in my account) and waited for it to be approved. After some days it disappeared with no trace, I didn't get a single visitor. The campaign also don't show up in history on my account. Meanwhile those 0.05 BTC disappeared without a trace and my account now only has 0.1 BTC instead of the 0.15 BTC it should have.
I try to clear up this mess by contacting you guys and I don't hear from you from several days, and now when I FINALLY do I get "sorry but we can't give you your money back" thrown in my face.
I can use the fake 0.1 BTC voucher to make an ad campaign later, but to be honest I don't expect much since last time I tried the ad campaign didn't even show up and you just reduced my account balance with 0.05 BTC.
But for now at least give me my original 0.05 BTC back? Those are the real bitcoins I did send to you in the first place that magically disappeared from my account balance after my ad campaign disappeared (I sent the 0.05 BTC to 18o4uzXXeGAXDrmGTGzxG6PwRts2PfCPhw if you want to look it up). Please. The return address is as follows:
12xnudzjCd9Ju8z3djqUscJ5mbjRZyv7u1
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Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]> Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:14 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
I understand your empathy. Richard sent you the voucher as a condolence, he did it for everyone. It it commonly known that you cannot exchange gift vouchers for real money, that applies in all shops. As for the 0.05, I will see about getting that back. I myself don't get in contact with Richard all that much. Also, they are no "fake bitcoins" feel free to use them on a campaign. From what I heard from Richard, he said that you put up a campaign, but it was disapproved for some reason via one of the moderators. He then offered to personally approve an ad of your choice. I believe this offer still stands. Thanks for bearing with us. I will try and get this sorted as soon as possible for you.
Thanks,
Matt.
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Me <
[email protected]> Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:32 AM
To: Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]>
If this is true my account should have 0.15 BTC, where 0.05 BTC is not from the voucher.
If the campaign was disapproved by a mod it should be in the "history", correct? That's logical. What would also be logical is to get the 0.05 BTC back into the account since it didn't get spent if the campaign was refused (but since the history is blank I guess your system bugged/glitched).
He may have offered to approve an ad of my choice, but he also said, and I quote: "I will happily refund your balance AND give you the credit for your initial campaign". I do wish to get refunded since at this time I don't feel CoinURL is stable enough for me.
I can't believe how hard you make it for me just to get back my measly 0.05 BTC. It's such a low amount that if it was me I would have sent it back immediately. Is this how you treat all of your customers? Something is wrong with your system and you're making me pay for it. Just refund the 0.05 BTC and be done with it please. The time it has taken is ridiculous already.
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Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]> Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:07 PM
To:Me <
[email protected]>
As I have stated before, I am not in control of any of the money or refunds in CoinUrl, I only deal with complaints. I am trying my best to get hold of Richard as I have a thing or two to tell him so please bear with me.
Thanks, Matt.
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Me <
[email protected]> Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM
To: Matthew Boyd <
[email protected]>
That's not good enough. I've been waiting a long time now and are tired of waiting.
If what you say is true and you are an employee of CoinURL (and you are not really actually Richard or whatever his real name is) I warn you about your job. An employer that cant even take care of his customers won't be able to take care of his employees (meaning you won't get paid).
At this time I can only declare for sure that CoinURL is, in fact, a scam and people must be warned.
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