Topic: Comcast DNS Now Fails on Bitcoinica? - page 2. (Read 11025 times)

You are welcome.

Actually, I first had this issue with Comcast in mid-December.  I was not the first experience it either.  Comcast operates a huge network, and just because it didn't affect you until recently doesn't mean you know what happened to the rest of us.

The only path back to a free and open internet (we've already lost it in many respects, and the encroachment will continue without some form of government action), is to get back to a model where anyone can buy a pipe of a certain size and resell their bandwidth.  When we were on phone lines, the FCC required that companies allow you to resell bandwidth.  Cable lines fall under different regulations, and as such we have huge monopolies who are unable to address any legitimate technical issues of individual users.

Actually, this is NOT old, as the DNSSEC stuff just got fully implemented by Comcast as of January 10. Mostly, I was curious if Zhoutong had any input as to why his site would get blocked and what he could do to fix it. Instead, we got a massive tangent about politics and freedom. Well, guess what: I changed to Google's DNS servers and I can hit Bitcoinica again, but it still sucks that major ISPs are blocking this stuff.

And as an aside, I wrote to all three of my local representatives about SOPA/PIPA and told them the legislation sucked and I strongly opposed it. They all gave me political BS answers, including two who said something to the effect of, "the PROTECT IP Act (SOPA) has some serious problems; I've helped work on a better act called the OPEN Act that you should appreciate...." Well, I haven't looked into the OPEN Act yet, but I'm betting pretty heavily that by the time it reaches the senate floor, it too will be filled with garbage from the lobbyists of the world.

BTW, @OP
if you go directly to Bitcoinica's IP with https://50.56.4.62 -- or any direct IP address that supports https, and proceed through the warning, your connection will still be encrypted even though the certificate ID isn't recognized by the browser. So even though it shows red on the lock, if you click the lock for details you should see that it's just a validity error, but that the encryption is working.

+1

I think this post gets the best response from a bitcoin company award.

Well, I'm really glad we spawned such a fascinating conversation about power and politics  

Cypherdoc, you're on Comcast. Comcast's in America the last time I checked. @myself, in case you thought you were still in Karbombistan, you actually do have rights in America. For example, you have the right to remain silent; you have the right to an attorney. You have the right to complain loudly and to lobby your congressman about not being able to use a foreign casino website. But you won't. Because you say you want freedom of speech... but really you're too lazy to do anything other than bitch on a forum. Maybe you should bitch about the fact that you live in a fascist country. You just want convenience. So everybody else in the world should bend over backwards, take risks and break laws so you can do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it. But just wait. When those foreign law-breaking casinos run off with your money? It's "Boohoo I'm being censored" one day, and "Boohoo Mr. Policeman, those criminals took my money" tomorrow. Or else, "Oh no, my government shut down my favorite casino and they won't give me my money back. Guess I'll go back to watching Regis until the next idiots come along who I can gamble with for three months before my government shuts them down." Write a letter to your fuckin Attorney General. Tell him you're a victim of censorship. It's a free country they say, and stamps are cheap.

no. that's why i said earlier that laws are sometimes misused
I never claimed the system is perfect, but it has its uses.
It definitely not this:

I think a lot of changes need to be made - but that doesn't give me the right to ignore the current laws. It gives me the responsibility to make sure the laws are changed.

This is the crux of the issue. Whether the laws are moral or right is irrelevant. It's a business and if they want continue putting food on the table they need to follow the regulations. 

it is immoral in your opinion - looks like most of the people in your country disagree - assuming its a democracy
you lose the time to change so you wont be sent to jail for doing it
you are welcome to deal with the mafia instead of the police - its your choice. just dont come QQing later if you get screwed by them

me - may be not. look at game and movie piracy - no punishment - lots of people do that, its still stealing.

yes. but if there was no law there would be a lot more robbers/murderers than there are now
you have too much faith in people. A lot of people will scam/rob you if they could get away with it

you do request the service by living in that country. if you dont like it you can ask the country to change it or leave

when you dont like your job you look for another job
when you dont like your country's laws you either find another country or make sure the laws are changed (which is improbable in the USA)

2) correct. but the regular mafia isnt democratic. so in my opinion they are much worse. if you dont thinks so you are welcome to join/pay them instead. if you dont want to pay at all you will have to conquer your own territory and start your own country. good luck with that

Is that why you don't steal?

Have you noticed that people are still stealing even with the laws?

How about we pay if they actually deliver? That's a pretty damn low bar btw. If I deliver you an unrequested service it doesn't matter how awesome it is, you don't owe.

1) nobody forces you to live in the USA. if you stay in the USA of your own free will - you are signing a contract with the state. dont like it? move
2) So you prefer paying to a mafia rather than to official authorities? fine - its your choice. you still pay...

To red:
i was using it as an example hoping nobody here knows what i am talking about
though there are some 3rd world countries where the government has no real power or in a constant war with its citizens - i wouldnt call that proper authorities, and people do get shot and robbed quite a lot there - unless you pay the local gang

There are still laws, people dont steal from each other or they will get jailed
And actually in this case there are still taxes but they are not direct
Instead of the citizens of that country using the oil for their profit and paying some of it as taxes - they give some of the oil itself to the country instead - meaning the tax isn't paid in currency but in oil. So there are taxes unless you claim that the oil belongs to the authorities in the first place - and not to the citizens of the country - which IMHO is wrong.

tl;dr
they are paying taxes with resources since the oil should belong to the citizens and not only to the country/autorities

Have you been to a third world country? Do you really think there are no authorities there and everyone really gets robbed twice a week and shot all the time? I sincerely hope you were using hyperbole.

they are not directly physical - but they can cause physical threat
If a hacker takes all of your money out of your bank account and charges your credit card
since banks are regulated they will be held liable for the hack and reverse those transactions
on the other hand if you had all your money in bitcoins and got hacked - you are screwed - you wont be able to pay any bills , buy food etc. this is a physical threat although it is caused by a virtual transaction

Less law / authority in a virtual world makes sense because any threats are not physical ones.

But in a not-so-distant transhumanism future, where carbon based life merges with the technology it created, we may think twice about litigation in virtual space as well.

I have Comcast and couldn't connect.  I use OpenDNS on my computer though and it works fine now.

Are you serious?
How long do you think you would manage without those authorities?
Taxes pay for police, infrastructure,fire department, garbage disposal and other services.
Without those authorities you would get robbed twice a week and shot once a month and live in a dumpster.
If you don't want any authorities? you are welcome to move to 3rd world country - no taxes there, they will simply take all of your money and shoot you.
Look at bitcoin - no authorities - have you seen how many scams are out there? Sure you will say you get scammed - its your own problem. but i am sure you will change you tune if you will be the one who is scammed. ("it will never happen to me, i am supersmart and can't be scamed" - yeah, right)
Law is a tool to keep a community alive and functional. This tool is sometimes misused. but calling law " tool for that state to make delinquents" just shows that you have no idea how it works and what it actually does.
you are the one who needs a reality check

+1 , what's smarter?:  pushing the envelope to make a statement and losing out in the long run, or playing by the rules when necessary to better ensure more long-term survival?