Community brainpan - please discuss and debate desirable features for a miner

NotFuzzyWarm

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Evil beware: We have waffles!

Quote from: Eagleone on November 01, 2016, 07:37:49 PM

as far as hosting I'll be back in January or February and would love to get together

++++. Really tho my miners get unplugged because they're loud if they could be spun down easily by worker types that would be cool

Getting OT here but, if you are running s7's do apply Sidehacks mod. Power drops from around 1.2kw each to between 930 to 980w, speeds around 3.7ish THs per miner. Some folks have gotten them down to ~800w but stability could be an issue there. In a warm area, fans can be throttled down a fair bit but still not exactly quiet. They certainly don't scream anymore though

I've ran those settings most of summer with room ambient around 85-90F. Since plants don't like temps that high then putting miners somewhere in the area around them should work well.
Sample of mod'ed s7's in my farm

Eagleone

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I live in Washington currently but actually used to vend Truelabs to the Ann Arbor area

same technique as true co2 in California

as far as hosting I'll be back in January or February and would love to get together

++++. Really tho my miners get unplugged because they're loud if they could be spun down easily by worker types that would be cool

isoneguy

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well if he doesn't host them, feel free to send one or a few my way

NotFuzzyWarm

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Evil beware: We have waffles!

Quote from: isoneguy on November 01, 2016, 03:37:52 AM

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 31, 2016, 09:30:25 PM

3-cents eh? Hmm. I have 7 semi-retired s7's using Sidehack under-volt/clock mod that pull 930w each and I'm Detroit area. Care to host them? Calc says @ 3 cents they would be good for $1.65 each after deduct for power cost. For that matter, if they can go to a good home...

are these miners not being utilized?

Correct. They've been replaced with s9's and another should join them tomorrow if the latest s9 I ordered comes today. Still have 11 more of them (s7's) online. I've limited myself to ~22kw of free power at work so have been slowly replacing the s7's with 9's but am starting to get unsightly retired miner buildup... Well, the miners aren't so much the problem, it's their damn burros... Wink

isoneguy

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 31, 2016, 09:30:25 PM

3-cents eh? Hmm. I have 7 semi-retired s7's using Sidehack under-volt/clock mod that pull 930w each and I'm Detroit area. Care to host them? Calc says @ 3 cents they would be good for $1.65 each after deduct for power cost. For that matter, if they can go to a good home...

are these miners not being utilized?

NotFuzzyWarm

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Evil beware: We have waffles!

Quote from: Eagleone on October 31, 2016, 12:44:40 PM

Hi all,

Call me crazy but I want a KNOB, is that too much to ask?
Control buck converter, core clock, and fan speeds on 6+ miners with a thermal override so as to avaoid hard shutdowns like the s7

Rackmountable, I want to start colocating these things so a clean rack apearance is a must (6U or W.E. works)

- string of miners off a PI would be a must
- wifi is cool
- 5 or 10 pcie sockets, 1200 watts maximum so we can use the little HP guys you sell, maybe 750 so that 2 could hook up to an ant miner psu.

My machines live in liscence grow ops in Detroit and The Bay

Detroit is 3 cents For primary hook ups and we have TONS of space

Trueco2oil.com that's me and we don't steal anything

3-cents eh? Hmm. I have 7 semi-retired s7's using Sidehack under-volt/clock mod that pull 930w each and I'm Detroit area. Care to host them? Calc says @ 3 cents they would be good for $1.65 per-day each after deduct for power cost. For that matter, if they can go to a good home...

Trueco2.com - Wonder if Chronic Releaf here carries you? Last few oils I got are from Illuminati Extracts (also CO2 process).

Eagleone

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Hi all,

Call me crazy but I want a KNOB, is that too much to ask?
Control buck converter, core clock, and fan speeds on 6+ miners with a thermal override so as to avaoid hard shutdowns like the s7

Rackmountable, I want to start colocating these things so a clean rack apearance is a must (6U or W.E. works)

- string of miners off a PI would be a must
- wifi is cool
- 5 or 10 pcie sockets, 1200 watts maximum so we can use the little HP guys you sell, maybe 750 so that 2 could hook up to an ant miner psu.

My machines live in liscence grow ops in Detroit and The Bay

Detroit is 3 cents For primary hook ups and we have TONS of space

Trueco2oil.com that's me and we don't steal anything

Dank14

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I quite agree that a miner should be quiet and portable, should not occupy too much space but most importantly is the price of a new miner... it is possible to make budget miners for those on a tight budget?

isoneguy

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From my personal opinion...the most important design specs for small scale mining devices are as follows:

1. quiet (large scale mines can easily use loud data center equipment)
2. portable (heavy devices that cost 200$ to ship lose value quickly)
3. chain-able using easily replaceable and common connectors (usb or cat5/6 like the silverfish)
4. cheap non miner components (i don't want to replace a 50$ proprietary part to use a 20$ miner)
5. easily controlled, either a built in controller or a raspi/pc controller option
6. WiFi option (either built in or optional on the controller)
7. stack-able (connect small modules together to make a bigger robot)
8. decently made (I don't want it falling apart before it gives me a chance to use it)
9. easily powered using an existing powering method (usb, 6pin pci, or 12v barrel plugs)
10. variable clock speed/voltage
11. future proof blade design/re-useable case (it would be nice to be able to upgrade the blade with more efficient chips in the future. This way you don't have to discard 20% of the cost of the miner after the end of life period.)
12. worked on by gekkoscience
13. other awesome un-contemplated features.

HagssFIN

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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

There is plenty of other items listed as well here https://www.bitmaintech.com/bitcoin.htm

HerbPean

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Quote from: HagssFIN on September 09, 2016, 02:17:25 PM

I don't know if this info is useful at all, but I found BM1387 chips listed at Bitmain.
They won't appear in your shopping cart though if you try to add them Grin

https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160824025047591cu3134LW063E

11$ each

HagssFIN

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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

I don't know if this info is useful at all, but I found BM1387 chips listed at Bitmain.
They won't appear in your shopping cart though if you try to add them Grin

https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160824025047591cu3134LW063E

sidehack

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Curmudgeonly hardware guy

That's pretty much what I came to as well. Additionally, notes 4 and 5 (assuming "heat" is derived more from adjusting core voltage than clock) are mandatory requirements.

Gahs

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1.) An integrated controller will conserve space.
2.) A generic bus would be nice
3.) Hashboards having sub-controllers
4.) If there is a way to control clock speed so as to reduce the noise level; you'd sell out fast
5.) If there is a way to reduce heat output; you'd be in constant demand.

Unacceptable

legendary

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Quote from: Mr. Kashif on July 06, 2016, 04:00:51 PM

Why does this thread seem to be asleep? Huh

Cause we all got our chips & are already building our miners!!! Tongue

Mr. Kashif

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most of it.

sidehack

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Curmudgeonly hardware guy

Maybe everything's been said that needs to be?

Mr. Kashif

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Why does this thread seem to be asleep? Huh

sidehack

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This is the only miner design one I've started in a long time. I have sorta laid claim to the Community Miner Development thread, but it's technically kilo17's home turf.

This has been a good one though, for sure.

in2tactics

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Quote from: sidehack on July 01, 2016, 11:09:11 PM

It's been mentioned a couple times, but this is not my project. Basically, I have been asked to oversee design and when I say "those attributes are fixed" what I mean is "those attributes are fixed by the person footing the bill". Y'all know I'd rather see something sub-500W, and my own projects will be.

Quote from: sidehack on June 22, 2016, 06:06:09 PM

Actually ... the overarching project specific to this thread is more I am helping some people ... it'll be me doing a job for someone else ...
This will not be a GekkoScience product

Quote from: sidehack on June 23, 2016, 07:34:41 AM

what's been requested is a 10TH miner, so if the assumption is current-gen chips in the 0.1J/GH neighborhood, then the assumption is 1KW at stock settings.

Well, I stand corrected. I need to pay more attention to which thread I am posting in because you have a lot of miner related threads.

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