Comparative Features On Top Phone Antivirus For Crypto Wallets Protection - page 2.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on January 05, 2021, 02:29:39 AM

Clone and fake apps are the ones stealing crypto assets from the users so spending our money on Anti virus and feel like we are completely safe is also stupidity so we should be aware all the time or better keep crypto wallets on secondary smartphones and never install any apps other than stocks and wallets.

devices that are always connected to the internet have a very high risk of being hacked. Even if you have a secondary smartphone and never installed anything, when it is targeted on your local network or on a public network it will still be hacked. All systems are not safe.
A good and safer option for now is to store assets on hardware wallets such as ledge, trezor etc.

never use an unknown public network because there will be many risks.

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Antivirus keeps your phone safe, also I encounter sometimes example in Huawei if you don't run an antivirus scan your phone suddenly slows running application, is slow, I don't know yet what is the for it, but I think to be safe for any thief, don't just install apps especially with airdrops, those applications can't be detected by antivirus, also apk files we don't know where that came from and it might have hidden executive file that might harm your phone and hacker might use that as a backdoor.

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Quote from: pooya87 on January 04, 2021, 01:55:08 AM

For example all these fake Electrum wallets for both desktop and android have nothing malware-like but they still rob users funds all the same.

Clone and fake apps are the ones stealing crypto assets from the users so spending our money on Anti virus and feel like we are completely safe is also stupidity so we should be aware all the time or better keep crypto wallets on secondary smartphones and never install any apps other than stocks and wallets.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on January 03, 2021, 12:50:03 PM

Actually, I was like a guy who buys new mobile along with premium anti virus as an add on for premium price in the show room itself but now I realized it doesn't make sense to buy or install an antivirus on android. Even though Android is prone to getting infected with malware the antivirus are not going to save us from malwares from my personal experience. So we should be keen when installing any apps even on the playstore and take a look at the permissions that app needs. Google play protect was bit lazy to remove shady apps so if you installed it before they review it then you will be vulnerable as well.

The bigger problem in this case is that majority of cases that involve cryptocurrency wallets and users losing their funds to malicious ones has nothing to do with malware so it can not even be detected by an anti virus no matter how sophisticated they are.
For example all these fake Electrum wallets for both desktop and android have nothing malware-like but they still rob users funds all the same.

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Not a fan of anti viruses on android or otherwise but If you use miui, it has inbuilt security app with av scanner, it fetches it's virus definitions from various av providers so you don't have to install av app separately.

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Not a bad idea but installing a free plan anti virus is just not a very good idea because all they do is bug your phone and make it slow. I'm using Avast AV the premium plans are cheap and thanks that's the best for me

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Actually, I was like a guy who buys new mobile along with premium anti virus as an add on for premium price in the show room itself but now I realized it doesn't make sense to buy or install an antivirus on android. Even though Android is prone to getting infected with malware the antivirus are not going to save us from malwares from my personal experience. So we should be keen when installing any apps even on the playstore and take a look at the permissions that app needs. Google play protect was bit lazy to remove shady apps so if you installed it before they review it then you will be vulnerable as well.

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Quote from: 20kevin20 on January 03, 2021, 09:33:26 AM

I get the idea of having your device protected from malware, but how safe do you feel having installed a so-called "free" software that constantly scans your files.. especially when you have files containing your wallets on your device?

That's not how the mobile operating system works.

Android makes use of the unix permissions to seperate applications from each other.
Application A is running under user X and application B is running as user Y. They can't access each others files. The unix permissions don't allow that.

Therefore an AV on android also can't scan wallet files. At least not as long your phone isn't rooted and the software has gotten the permission to do so.

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I get the idea of having your device protected from malware, but how safe do you feel having installed a so-called "free" software that constantly scans your files.. especially when you have files containing your wallets on your device?

I'd rather just not click non-trusted links and stay away from non-official (and non-verified) software. Chances of messing up are way lower.

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on January 02, 2021, 03:20:49 AM

Lets be honest for once with each other, since android version 2.0 I haven't seen where by a malware takes over an android smartphone, I've seen and heard about spywares on phones but not malwares, if you have seen one please kindly confirm and let's hear you out, everyone seem to be scared of malware but never seen one affecting a phone

Spyware is categorized under malware, if that's what you mean. I'm completely honest on the forum, I don't gain anything from lying.

Malware are usually not designed to "take over" devices and they are usually quite specialized in certain things, in mobile phone's context that entails click fraud. Having a malware that takes over an entire device and having it evade detection is presumably tougher than one that aims to only achieve one thing.

Zero day exploits are a thing and they were previously used in malware for it's privilege escalation vulnerability (CVE-2019-2215).

A few reports that I've found within 5 minutes, report seems to indicate that there's more than one malware in the wild.

https://www.mcafee.com/content/dam/consumer/en-us/docs/2020-Mobile-Threat-Report.pdf
https://www.avira.com/en/blog/malware-threat-report-q2-2020-statistics-and-trends

Though I have to admit, sandboxing apps could try to mitigate the risk but it's evident that there are ways to go around it.

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Quote from: Bitbtc8 on January 02, 2021, 02:46:03 AM

I would choose 2FA over antivirus, I would choose to use strong passwords, fingerprint lock to secure my smartphone instead of antivirus

You usually have the 2FA apps on your phone right? What happens when your phone gets infected with the malware?

Tons of malware tends to get through the sieve and still gets posted onto the Play Store. That also means that most malware are made to specifically evade detection by the various AVs. You can probably get slightly more protection by installing an AV but keep in mind some are made to spy on their user.

It's not terrible to have an AV but you can't get complacent from having one. If you want a decent level of security on your phone, there are features like Samsung Knox which tries to sandbox certain apps and could help enhance your security.

Lets be honest for once with each other, since android version 2.0 I haven't seen where by a malware takes over an android smartphone, I've seen and heard about spywares on phones but not malwares, if you have seen one please kindly confirm and let's hear you out, everyone seem to be scared of malware but never seen one affecting a phone

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Quote from: Bitbtc8 on January 02, 2021, 02:46:03 AM

I would choose 2FA over antivirus, I would choose to use strong passwords, fingerprint lock to secure my smartphone instead of antivirus

You usually have the 2FA apps on your phone right? What happens when your phone gets infected with the malware?

Tons of malware tends to get through the sieve and still gets posted onto the Play Store. That also means that most malware are made to specifically evade detection by the various AVs. You can probably get slightly more protection by installing an AV but keep in mind some are made to spy on their user.

It's not terrible to have an AV but you can't get complacent from having one. If you want a decent level of security on your phone, there are features like Samsung Knox which tries to sandbox certain apps and could help enhance your security.

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Antivirus will only protect you from malware and spywares but in crypto space stupidity can make you lose your money, in this case antivirus is not really needed, I would choose 2FA over antivirus, I would choose to use strong passwords, fingerprint lock to secure my smartphone instead of antivirus

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Quote from: pawanjain on January 01, 2021, 12:26:28 PM

..sending your data to the hackers Grin

Likely not hackers but yeah they do collect it (which software don't?)

They disguise that by saying, 'To protect you better, we collect your data".

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I consider most anti virus as bloatware on the computer, as it usually bogs the system down, because its constantly checking its databases for "threats", and even then its usually using poor techniques which bring up a lot of false positives. I can't imagine how much an antivirus would bog down a mobile device, since the hardware is usually much, much lower than a computer.

I don't recommend anti virus to anyone usually, unless they are completely unaware of general security practices, and even then its likely doing more harm, than good by providing an illusion of being safe, and therefore allowing the user to become complacent. I'm also pretty sure, that some anti viruses say they have found a threat, and automatically cleaned it up, despite there being nothing to clean up, to give you the impression that its actually doing something.

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Quote from: pawanjain on January 01, 2021, 12:26:28 PM

Are antivirus even needed ? LOL

I find antivirus to be storage consuming apps which decreases your device performance. I won't say it's not worth it but rather it depends on an individual and his behavior on the device.
Antivirus might be good for less tech savvy people who tend to download the wrong files repeatedly but otherwise I don't think there's a need for antivirus.
Many times, there's a virus in the antivirus itself, sending your data to the hackers Grin

Agree with that, I don't even use this Antivirus software but personally, I don't trust McAfee and Avast Security just because they are linked to some application secretly which you download.

Your Phone should be fine as long as you do not download anything that is harmful or suspicious, But I don't think it's worth it downloading because it could decrease the performance a lot especially in a smartphone, It could work if you have a fast or expensive phone but for some smartphone, it might not be worth it and could just slow down your phone. In my experience, this antivirus application actually detects suspicious files which is useful but for some people, it's kinda like the phone of having an Android phone. You could just buy an Apple phone if you want a more secure phone.

I personally don't recommend antivirus when it comes to PC especially applications that came from nowhere I the windows security or firewall already works great.

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Quote from: bob123 on January 01, 2021, 12:46:22 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on January 01, 2021, 12:26:28 PM

Are antivirus even needed ? LOL
I find antivirus to be storage consuming apps which decreases your device performance.

You are up to decide: Rather a little bit less performance but safe, or no protection at all increasing the risks of getting malware ?

Well OP is talking about smartphones, so yeah, I don't think an antivirus would be that much necessary on smartphones because it won't make much of a difference I guess.

Quote from: pawanjain on January 01, 2021, 12:26:28 PM

Antivirus might be good for less tech savvy people who tend to download the wrong files repeatedly but otherwise I don't think there's a need for antivirus.
Many times, there's a virus in the antivirus itself, sending your data to the hackers Grin

Sure, if you are tech savy you don't necessarily need one. But if you are using windows, you definitely need one regardless of how "tech savy" you think you are.

Yes you are right on this, windows is full of shit, no matter how tech savvy anyone is, malwares will always find a way into your system.
This is why I migrated to Linux more than 2 years ago and love it for what it is. No antivirus shit needed on Linux as it is less prone to viruses anyway.

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