Topic: Completely new to mining and wants to learn (Read 375 times)
Thanks for your reply! It's very useful. I'm new in mining too.
Actually I just bought 4x RTX 3080s last month. I think ROI will take around 1 year, based on mining rate that I see.
Use what you have to mine crypto right now, do not buy any GPU because you may not make back your ROI, February of this year was still good but we are in may right now, EIP1559 will come and also the market will make big correction too so GPU are still going to get extremely cheaper cos not everyone like mining in bear market, most can't even pay for electricity bill in bear market
That is an interesting point. I am mining Bitcoins and currently at approx. $25-28/day. Few quick questions:
1. When you say it can lose half its value, you mean the halving of Bitcoin (that is supposed to occur in 2024)?
2. And when Bitcoin indeed halves, does the value of Bitcoin also go up to compensate for smaller reward for mining?
Your comments are most appreciated!
1. When you say it can lose half its value, you mean the halving of Bitcoin (that is supposed to occur in 2024)?
2. And when Bitcoin indeed halves, does the value of Bitcoin also go up to compensate for smaller reward for mining?
Your comments are most appreciated!
It depends, if the value is already in there then no, it will not. The best way to know the true value of bitcoin is see how much money the chinese miners spent on electricity and hardware to mine one btc, right now to mine one btc chinese miners spend 6k usd, so that is the real value right now of one btc. Halving means the chinese miners will have to spend 12k to mine one btc and so on.
But how much time does this normally take? For $ rates per day to half? It's a gradual fall, right?
That is an interesting point. I am mining Bitcoins and currently at approx. $25-28/day. Few quick questions:
1. When you say it can lose half its value, you mean the halving of Bitcoin (that is supposed to occur in 2024)?
2. And when Bitcoin indeed halves, does the value of Bitcoin also go up to compensate for smaller reward for mining?
Your comments are most appreciated!
1. When you say it can lose half its value, you mean the halving of Bitcoin (that is supposed to occur in 2024)?
2. And when Bitcoin indeed halves, does the value of Bitcoin also go up to compensate for smaller reward for mining?
Your comments are most appreciated!
It depends, if the value is already in there then no, it will not. The best way to know the true value of bitcoin is see how much money the chinese miners spent on electricity and hardware to mine one btc, right now to mine one btc chinese miners spend 6k usd, so that is the real value right now of one btc. Halving means the chinese miners will have to spend 12k to mine one btc and so on.
OP that CPU you have can mine verus coin and net you good amount of money per month because that CPU is very fast and also have many cores and threads so yea it's a really fast high end CPU, I'm sure it will even do good mining Randomx algorithm too (Monero)
What can I really mine with my CPU? I tried it in Nicehash and all it manages are few thousand hashes per second.
He probably means that if you trade instead of mine you will make more money. Which is true, however most likely you will end up losing all your money trading like most people around here who try to day-trade.
Either way, back to your mining question.
Right now you can maybe earn $5/day with your GPU but it won't always be like that. ETH can lose half its value and you will make $2.50/day. The transactions for ETH can become less congested and your reward can also fall to like $2.50/day even if ETH stays at $1800.
Overtime as more and more GPUs start mining ETH, they all get a fair share of their profits. So if twice as many people start to mine ETH in the next 90 days, then your profits will be $2.50/day even if the transaction fees stay the same and ETH stays at $1800. This is called difficulty and its to keep the supply constant. Try to understand this before you spend $40K.
That is an interesting point. I am mining Bitcoins and currently at approx. $25-28/day. Few quick questions:
1. When you say it can lose half its value, you mean the halving of Bitcoin (that is supposed to occur in 2024)?
2. And when Bitcoin indeed halves, does the value of Bitcoin also go up to compensate for smaller reward for mining?
Your comments are most appreciated!
OP that CPU you have can mine verus coin and net you good amount of money per month because that CPU is very fast and also have many cores and threads so yea it's a really fast high end CPU, I'm sure it will even do good mining Randomx algorithm too (Monero)
What can I really mine with my CPU? I tried it in Nicehash and all it manages are few thousand hashes per second.
OP that CPU you have can mine verus coin and net you good amount of money per month because that CPU is very fast and also have many cores and threads so yea it's a really fast high end CPU, I'm sure it will even do good mining Randomx algorithm too (Monero)
Read the part under the calculator, it states what the current variables are and used. Block reward is basically at 3.
So yes everyone is getting low pay.
Just be thankful your not paying us$0.28c per kw like me....
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=60&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=300&CostPerkWh=0.124&MiningPoolFee=1.65
So yes everyone is getting low pay.
Just be thankful your not paying us$0.28c per kw like me....
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=60&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=300&CostPerkWh=0.124&MiningPoolFee=1.65
The cost of electricity of $0.28 (or 28c) caught my attention. Here in UAE, the cost of electricity for residential homes is just $0.03 per kwh. That's quite a difference!
Read the part under the calculator, it states what the current variables are and used. Block reward is basically at 3.
So yes everyone is getting low pay.
Just be thankful your not paying us$0.28c per kw like me....
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=60&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=300&CostPerkWh=0.124&MiningPoolFee=1.65
So yes everyone is getting low pay.
Just be thankful your not paying us$0.28c per kw like me....
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=60&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=300&CostPerkWh=0.124&MiningPoolFee=1.65
Noob question: I have noticed that for the past 2 days the earning is quite low. Is it because of the recent slump in Bitocoin market price (in wake of Elon Musk's tweet)? My rig is as follows:
Giving me a total of approx. 240 MH/s. Hash rates seem to be fine to me.
But since 2-3 days, the dollar rate has been quite low and currently hovers around $25-28/day. Is that the normal rate for everyone?
- 1x RTX 2080 Ti @ 55 MH/s
- 2x RTX 3080 each @ 92 MH/s
Giving me a total of approx. 240 MH/s. Hash rates seem to be fine to me.
But since 2-3 days, the dollar rate has been quite low and currently hovers around $25-28/day. Is that the normal rate for everyone?
Just want to add if he was spending 40k like months ago when gpus where cheaper it would be much less risk.
Now however you will get a lot less for the money. Where I live I pay us$0.28c per kw so mining for me barely makes any money.
I also have solar panels which helps lower it slightly. Tbh the power company making just as much as me from it.....
I recently just dropped almost 6k on 3x 3070 and 1x 1070 to run 24/7 and 6800xt in main rig running 50% of time.
The 2 gpus I ordered last week already gone up again.
Im using all hardware I already had, the only thing extra Im buying is larger PSU, 4x risers and a wire shelf unit to cable tie stuff into.
Really all im looking at doing is getting the hardware for free over a year as I was looking to invest the same amount buying BTC and ETH, instead im just mining it.
Also I see it as diversifying (don't like all my savings sitting in a bank account at this point).
Now however you will get a lot less for the money. Where I live I pay us$0.28c per kw so mining for me barely makes any money.
I also have solar panels which helps lower it slightly. Tbh the power company making just as much as me from it.....
I recently just dropped almost 6k on 3x 3070 and 1x 1070 to run 24/7 and 6800xt in main rig running 50% of time.
The 2 gpus I ordered last week already gone up again.
Im using all hardware I already had, the only thing extra Im buying is larger PSU, 4x risers and a wire shelf unit to cable tie stuff into.
Really all im looking at doing is getting the hardware for free over a year as I was looking to invest the same amount buying BTC and ETH, instead im just mining it.
Also I see it as diversifying (don't like all my savings sitting in a bank account at this point).
Hey guys, some silly questions:
Thanks again all of you.
- If I am getting around 58.5 Mh/s while using a single RTX 2080 Ti and installed another RTX 2080Ti, will it double to 117 Mh/s? Also, will the daily profitability rate of 5.5 USD double as well? I know it should be like this but I am not so sure!
Thanks again all of you.
Yes pretty much. If you got 10 of them you would get 10x the hashrate and 10x the amount of profits. When you add more and more GPUs to a single rig you reduce your overall consumption per GPU because 30-40 Watts is used by the SSD, Motherboard, CPU and RAM. So one GPU can use like 200 Watts but 2 GPUs the average can be like 185 Watts since its split between them. If you got 5-6 GPUS then the average is going to be even lower.
Hence why you see people going all crazy with risers and cables hanging everywhere. Because the more GPUs means more profits pretty much. Its a perfect linear curve pretty much. Good luck in your mining career. Its addicting be warned. First we start with 1 GPU, then 2 GPU, then 5 GPU, then we got like a basement filled with 50 GPUs.
50 GPUs! I could drink to that mate! Thanks so much. I think I might get one more GPU just to wet my feet.
Yes 50 GPUs I think is considered a medium type of farm at least it was back in the 2013 and 2017 days. The issue right now is mostly due to the very high cost of GPUs. Back in 2013-2017 the most I paid for GPUs for $200. So having 30 GPUs only cost $6000 plus maybe another $1-2K for the rest of the hardware.
Now the issue is that a single GPU costing close to $1000 would make the same setup cost about $30000 plus $1-2K for rest of hardware. The initial investment is much much higher these days. Not a good combination of chip shortage plus miners buying out all available GPUs everywhere.
Hey guys, some silly questions:
Thanks again all of you.
- If I am getting around 58.5 Mh/s while using a single RTX 2080 Ti and installed another RTX 2080Ti, will it double to 117 Mh/s? Also, will the daily profitability rate of 5.5 USD double as well? I know it should be like this but I am not so sure!
Thanks again all of you.
Yes pretty much. If you got 10 of them you would get 10x the hashrate and 10x the amount of profits. When you add more and more GPUs to a single rig you reduce your overall consumption per GPU because 30-40 Watts is used by the SSD, Motherboard, CPU and RAM. So one GPU can use like 200 Watts but 2 GPUs the average can be like 185 Watts since its split between them. If you got 5-6 GPUS then the average is going to be even lower.
Hence why you see people going all crazy with risers and cables hanging everywhere. Because the more GPUs means more profits pretty much. Its a perfect linear curve pretty much. Good luck in your mining career. Its addicting be warned. First we start with 1 GPU, then 2 GPU, then 5 GPU, then we got like a basement filled with 50 GPUs.
50 GPUs! I could drink to that mate! Thanks so much. I think I might get one more GPU just to wet my feet.
Hey guys, some silly questions:
Thanks again all of you.
- If I am getting around 58.5 Mh/s while using a single RTX 2080 Ti and installed another RTX 2080Ti, will it double to 117 Mh/s? Also, will the daily profitability rate of 5.5 USD double as well? I know it should be like this but I am not so sure!
Thanks again all of you.
Yes pretty much. If you got 10 of them you would get 10x the hashrate and 10x the amount of profits. When you add more and more GPUs to a single rig you reduce your overall consumption per GPU because 30-40 Watts is used by the SSD, Motherboard, CPU and RAM. So one GPU can use like 200 Watts but 2 GPUs the average can be like 185 Watts since its split between them. If you got 5-6 GPUS then the average is going to be even lower.
Hence why you see people going all crazy with risers and cables hanging everywhere. Because the more GPUs means more profits pretty much. Its a perfect linear curve pretty much. Good luck in your mining career. Its addicting be warned. First we start with 1 GPU, then 2 GPU, then 5 GPU, then we got like a basement filled with 50 GPUs.
Hey guys, some silly questions:
Thanks again all of you.
- If I am getting around 58.5 Mh/s while using a single RTX 2080 Ti and installed another RTX 2080Ti, will it double to 117 Mh/s? Also, will the daily profitability rate of 5.5 USD double as well? I know it should be like this but I am not so sure!
Thanks again all of you.
I think if you are a miner, then mine. If you are a trader then trade. Don't mine and then trade all your profits unless you are maybe selling ETH for BTC. I've been around bitcointalk and crypto twitter and trollchats on exchanges and I've seen many profitable miners which end up losing everything.
Usually this happens during bull markets. They make like $100 a day mining but get jealous of all the $10K a day profits that some leverage day traders are flashing, so they open up a Bitmex account and trade some high leverage like 10x-25x and basically get lucky a few times and then the inevitable crash and boom... accounts liquidated.
Usually this happens during bull markets. They make like $100 a day mining but get jealous of all the $10K a day profits that some leverage day traders are flashing, so they open up a Bitmex account and trade some high leverage like 10x-25x and basically get lucky a few times and then the inevitable crash and boom... accounts liquidated.
My interest is to mine and ultimately cash it. I still need to find out a company that will buy Bitcoin here in the UAE and for a decent fee. Usually, how much do companies charge as their fee?
Also, GPU vs ASIC mining: which is better to mine quicker?
Thanks again all.
I think if you are a miner, then mine. If you are a trader then trade. Don't mine and then trade all your profits unless you are maybe selling ETH for BTC. I've been around bitcointalk and crypto twitter and trollchats on exchanges and I've seen many profitable miners which end up losing everything.
Usually this happens during bull markets. They make like $100 a day mining but get jealous of all the $10K a day profits that some leverage day traders are flashing, so they open up a Bitmex account and trade some high leverage like 10x-25x and basically get lucky a few times and then the inevitable crash and boom... accounts liquidated.
Usually this happens during bull markets. They make like $100 a day mining but get jealous of all the $10K a day profits that some leverage day traders are flashing, so they open up a Bitmex account and trade some high leverage like 10x-25x and basically get lucky a few times and then the inevitable crash and boom... accounts liquidated.
He probably means that if you trade instead of mine you will make more money. Which is true, however most likely you will end up losing all your money trading like most people around here who try to day-trade.
Either way, back to your mining question.
Right now you can maybe earn $5/day with your GPU but it won't always be like that. ETH can lose half its value and you will make $2.50/day. The transactions for ETH can become less congested and your reward can also fall to like $2.50/day even if ETH stays at $1800.
Overtime as more and more GPUs start mining ETH, they all get a fair share of their profits. So if twice as many people start to mine ETH in the next 90 days, then your profits will be $2.50/day even if the transaction fees stay the same and ETH stays at $1800. This is called difficulty and its to keep the supply constant. Try to understand this before you spend $40K.
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