Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers. - page 5.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 14, 2021, 03:41:28 AM

It's the responsibility of both parent and the gambling site to prevent children from getting into gambling at a really young age, the best thing that we can do is for us to fill our roles to prevent such thing, if you're a parent then it's your role to supervise and monitor your children and what they do online, as a gambling site owner, it's your role to prevent children from getting into the site.

In my opinion, parents are currently too busy to take care of their work, so without realizing it, they don't have time to monitor children's behavior, and of course it will have an impact on the psychology of children who are looking for their own character, so that in the end many children end up behaving badly.
Besides,the need for supervision from parents, environmental factors and also children friends become a big influence in shaping children's behavior today.

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What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Like in my country, the young children are exposed to gambling sites not only on phones but also on TV, like the DSTV and GOTV we watch in my country, you can be on a particular channel which will be advertising online betting platforms, children know more about the internet.

is this for real? a gambling site advertised directly in TV nationwide ? does your government really allows this when the TV shows and Ads must be at least concerned about younger generations?
lucky that my country does not allow this though internet is really a Shit source for children nowadays.

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What to be done goes to the parent, everything about their children online activities must be monitored, they should not take this for granted. It also goes to betting agents, making sure the agents do not allow underaged.

But we parents aren't always there? but of course this is a task for us parents, limit their tv usage just allow them when we are around with them.

same as the using of internet in which let them access only in our front and turn of the wifi without our presence .

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 14, 2021, 03:41:28 AM

It's the responsibility of both parent and the gambling site to prevent children from getting into gambling at a really young age, the best thing that we can do is for us to fill our roles to prevent such thing, if you're a parent then it's your role to supervise and monitor your children and what they do online, as a gambling site owner, it's your role to prevent children from getting into the site.

If parents can supervise their kids when they are online with their gadgets, their kids will not try to visit unnecessary websites and focus on what they want to do. They will not try playing gambling because their parents have already told them that playing gambling can make them become addicted and can ruin their lives in the short term. The role key of the parents is not easy because they need to guard their children and make sure that they do not break the illegal thing that can drag them anytime.

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It's the responsibility of both parent and the gambling site to prevent children from getting into gambling at a really young age, the best thing that we can do is for us to fill our roles to prevent such thing, if you're a parent then it's your role to supervise and monitor your children and what they do online, as a gambling site owner, it's your role to prevent children from getting into the site.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Like in my country, the young children are exposed to gambling sites not only on phones but also on TV, like the DSTV and GOTV we watch in my country, you can be on a particular channel which will be advertising online betting platforms, children know more about the internet.

What to be done goes to the parent, everything about their children online activities must be monitored, they should not take this for granted. It also goes to betting agents, making sure the agents do not allow underaged.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Everything is possible in online world, and it’s too hard now to track the activities of many young people and they are really exposed into this kind of industry and even the government can’t handle this anymore, so I believe this should start from the parents on guiding their own child and educating them about the possible risk of being into gambling, this may not look easy but it can still be stopped. Gambling is not meant for them, their emotions are too weak for this and if they didn’t control themselves anymore, that could be result to a bigger problem.

Tracking is the hardest thing because you cant really have your eyes on your children 24/7 which means as long theyre exposed or having their own smartphone or pc then tendency that they would really be exposed into something like this and not only limited on gambling aspect but also in other things as well which underage shouldnt must involved.

The market is gambling is gradually increasing and the demand is there which simply means that it is really making out some effective way of exposure out of those gambling advertisements and other marketing stuff.

This problem cant be resolved for sure but at least there are ways for it to be slow down but totally get rid of it is impossible.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Everything is possible in online world, and it’s too hard now to track the activities of many young people and they are really exposed into this kind of industry and even the government can’t handle this anymore, so I believe this should start from the parents on guiding their own child and educating them about the possible risk of being into gambling, this may not look easy but it can still be stopped. Gambling is not meant for them, their emotions are too weak for this and if they didn’t control themselves anymore, that could be result to a bigger problem.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

I could say that this kind of problem is somewhat cant really be resolved nor get rid of it due to the technology that we do have today.This is something that cant really be stopped completely but somehow it could be able
to be controlled via some programs or even just simply inside on the house where you do really give out awareness into your children about the risk of getting addicted to gambling and with this alone then you
can at least somehow stop out for your children on getting engage with gambling and getting addicted at least but it is actually on someones personal take as they gets older.

The influenced of growing technology provides easy access with gambling, it's tough to stop or prevent those young guys to learn more about this activity.

The best way to deal with this is your awareness with your kids. Even the government implements rules. Without your guidance, those kids will always find the way to continue playing once they already have the experienced. Addiction is more prone with young kids, when corruptions inside their minds already penetrate, it's hard to prevent them to resist.

Unless, government will seriuosly interfere with this kind of business, banning is a good way to stop risking those
kids in terms of early addiction to gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

It used to be the case that debit and credit cards were the main means of payment (directly or through intermediary payment processors). Most of the companies running those cards were fairly restrictive about access to under 18 year old's and the world has become a lot more digitized. To the most ruthless of companies it was a goldmine to target this audience, whether getting them cards theoretically controlled by their parents or just getting parent's credit cards to sign up. I don't think that most gambling sites have a problem with this because KYC documentation requirements are pretty intense these days and you'd have to go to some extremes to fake such documentation effectively. However the micro-transactions and loot boxes you find in most games is certain gearing up underage gamers into the same sort of mentality - which can be very damaging long term and wrongly encouraqes the addictive behavior + sunk cost designs.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 13, 2021, 12:26:15 PM

But as you said, the child has always curiosity on these things, and the upbringing will come into play in these crucial stages of the child.

And if stopping them intentionally will take place, it might result for that child to make things secret and private which is far more dangerous in the long-run.

Children nowadays will really encounter the word gambling while they are growing up so let it that way. Advertisers are targeting general people which is just a normal thing to do and that includes being exposed to children.

Just trust our kids that they know what's right or long. It doesn't mean that once a child encounter a gambling ads or any, they will automatically be involved with it.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

I could say that this kind of problem is somewhat cant really be resolved nor get rid of it due to the technology that we do have today.This is something that cant really be stopped completely but somehow it could be able
to be controlled via some programs or even just simply inside on the house where you do really give out awareness into your children about the risk of getting addicted to gambling and with this alone then you
can at least somehow stop out for your children on getting engage with gambling and getting addicted at least but it is actually on someones personal take as they gets older.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

I would like to see a real case of 11 years old kid gambling. It seems really unlikely for me. Maybe these statistics are mixing gambling at casinos and friendly "betting" with friends or relatives at home or school. The second situation isn't an issue at all and there is no way to avoid underage people to bet in some events of their daily routine for fun. I remember when I was at middle school students organized a betting pool in the world cup results and we bet small amounts of money just for fun. Would we also be included in these statistics and punished by the law?

Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

It's parents' duty to take care the mental health of their children. If they are showing symptoms of addiction, parents must identify the cause of the problem and fight it back. But the rest of the world can't forbid an activity from being advertised just because few individuals can't handle it properly.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

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Saying gambling sites should "fully" checkmate underage players and I can't help but wonder how they'd be able to do that. Even with strict KYC, it's near possible to completely prevent such from happening as young, underage people will still patronize those platforms at the end of the day. What we need is proper orientation on the risks and dangers that comes with gambling for underage. Maybe incorporating it in school curriculum would go a long way but not completely eradicate the problem.

I don't think it's a good idea, let the existing curriculum run as usual...

What I'm afraid of is that when education about the dangers of gambling is included in the learning curriculum, children become more and more curious about gambling. around my home, there are very few minors who play gambling because they are busy playing online games. Keeping kids busy with their games is probably the best way to keep them away from gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

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Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Saying gambling sites should "fully" checkmate underage players and I can't help but wonder how they'd be able to do that. Even with strict KYC, it's near possible to completely prevent such from happening as young, underage people will still patronize those platforms at the end of the day. What we need is proper orientation on the risks and dangers that comes with gambling for underage. Maybe incorporating it in school curriculum would go a long way but not completely eradicate the problem.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Underage gambling is a real issue! I am sure even gambling houses do not pay much attention because it is a source of revenue for them. With cryptocurrency, it has become even more easier for the underage gamblers to play in online casinos because they do not require to share kyc data.

There is no immediate solution available from technical viewpoint. Parental monitoring softwares can be a possible solution but there are ways to bypass them as well. Children who are gambling at young age, would know how to bypass them. So it boils down the responsibility to their parents who needs to be vigilant about their children's online activities.

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Quote from: Beparanf on September 13, 2021, 08:29:49 AM

IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.

Adblocking and ad appropriation isn't the first line of defense for children being introduced to gambling, it's the parents that should be the first line of defense, they're the one that should guide them since they can see what their kid does first hand.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Though this may backfire on the side of the online gambling website, submitting/requiring KYC documents during the registration is one way in order to combat online underaged gamblers. But then again, most people avoid gambling websites that require KYC and this would definitely take a toll on the player base of a gambling website, thus, I do not see this happening in the near future.

Quote from: KTChampions on September 13, 2021, 10:44:23 AM

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I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

I agree with your statement. I think the curiosity of a child does wonders but they must be properly guided and briefed by their parents about gambling and its potential harm to one's future.

Most fiat-based casinos if not all, require KYC from their players. Unless, the kid uses his parents' credit/debit cards to get in.
So this problem maybe more on crypto casinos since they are not requiring KYC as of now.
Aside from the fact that crypto is getting popular these days owed also to Play-to-Earn games.
More than likely, some underaged users/gamers will encounter these P2E gaming platforms and so these crypto casinos.
But as you said, the child has always curiosity on these things, and the upbringing will come into play in these crucial stages of the child.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 08:24:21 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Though this may backfire on the side of the online gambling website, submitting/requiring KYC documents during the registration is one way in order to combat online underaged gamblers. But then again, most people avoid gambling websites that require KYC and this would definitely take a toll on the player base of a gambling website, thus, I do not see this happening in the near future.

Quote from: KTChampions on September 13, 2021, 10:44:23 AM

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog" Cheesy

I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

I agree with your statement. I think the curiosity of a child does wonders but they must be properly guided and briefed by their parents about gambling and its potential harm to one's future.

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"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog" Cheesy

I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

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There is no solution anymore for this topic except of "KYC", always ask KYC before they can use/play/deposit some money. That's the only way to know, anyway about underage gamble. IMO, most of them will play on game gamble website like (CSGO/DOTA) it's pretty rare for user who just 14/15/16 using credit card/crypto or deposit bank to be gamble.

CSGO Gamble could be have the higher chance for underage trying to gamble his skin and turnout into a money, since CSGO streamer sometimes promoted CSGO gamble website.

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