Topic: Concerns about censorship (Read 3634 times)

Edit: I would like to request a formal scammer investigation be opened usually conducted by Maged as I have seen it before on here.

Edit: I now see you are "staff" and not a "mod". I guess i should not respond to you then as this might be off topic. You should reread the thread and find out what was going on before you start telling us how to act.

The questioning a mod things means if you're going against a mod when they're clearly right, or get pissed (and start spamming for 2 hours) because you were doing something stupid and got moderated for it.

LOL

so questioning a moderator is about the same as lying or ad hominem attacks?

I guess thank you for asking (well you did not really ask...) me first if I was serious or a troll before you banned me...

- Criticizing moderation: moderate increase
- Uses ad hominem attacks with unusual frequency: moderate increase
- Lying: moderate increase
- Inconsistent positions: moderate increase

My issue has only been about censorship and trying to find out the forums policy on it.

Trolls should be banned because they disrupt serious discussion. Identifying trolls is often difficult, however. I like to think in terms of "troll score": the higher the troll score, the more likely it is that a person is a troll. Examples of things that affect troll score:
- Having crazy positions (racism, etc.): large increase
- Posting long, well-reasoned posts: large decrease
- High posts-to-time-online ratio: small increase
- Been around for a long time: moderate decrease
- Posting many images: mild increase
- Much discussion of illegal sites: very mild increase
- Requires more moderation than is typical: moderate increase
- Using vulgarity, insults, or memes excessively: mild increase
- Posting topics with undescriptive titles: mild increase
- Seems disdainful of the Bitcoin community in general: mild increase
- Bumping old posts a lot: mild increase
- Giving people bad advice: mild increase
- Poor spelling/grammar: slight increase
- Criticizing moderation: moderate increase
- Complaining about anything: small increase
- Uses ad hominem attacks with unusual frequency: moderate increase
- Lying: moderate increase
- Inconsistent positions: moderate increase
- Posting the same arguments over and over again without bothering to respond to arguments against them: moderate increase
- Posting topics that will obviously evoke emotional responses: slight increase
- Posting replies that are themselves on-topic but which will obviously tend to bring the discussion off-topic: moderate increase
- Bumping old threads with replies that are not really worthwhile: moderate increase

None of these things alone warrant a warning, but when they occur habitually or when someone does many of them, they indicate that the poster is a troll.

Warn people who are doing many trollish things. Tell me if that doesn't help.

I understand about the post in the Diablo thread being deleted.

However read https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/concerns-about-censorship-57123 and https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/concerns-about-censorship-57123

My first post in this thread is not even about Diablo so why is it even here??? If this thread is only about Diablo then you need to move that post again...

Just so people know what this is it is a thread some mod made to take posts from different threads and put them in one place. Diablo is not the only person who is being accused of censorship or supporting questionable activity. He is not even the main person behind the backlash to the censorship.

The title of this thread is clearly misleading...

My issue has only been about censorship and trying to find out the forums policy on it.

I have told you what threads and what posts were deleted but no, I do not have screen shots and no I can't link you...

I also still have the message from Maged about me being banned for "trolling" in the BFL thread.

Anyway, you could end a lot of this by just posting the forums policy on censorship so we know. My posts in the BFL were clearly on topic. My posts in the thread that got deleted where clearly on topic.

The post that got deleted in Diablos thread was not on topic, (It was just asking why the thread was stickied)

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

You are really asking us to link to censored/deleted posts? You don't believe what I am saying? Well... lol!

He didn't scam them in that they didn't lose anything.

However, he abused their trust.

If someone borrowed my car, went and robbed a bank with it
and then returned the car unscathed the next day, I would not
have suffered any financial loss.

I still would:
    - want to know about it
    - feel extremely displeased
    - never trust that person again

In other words: there was no scam, but there was most definitely wrongdoing.

Yeah play this stupid game eh? Your the one in the position to know the dirty dealing going on here and unlike you people I am not for censorship in any form. And this response here tells me you are fully in support of their actions if not in on it yourself this is why they get to continue on. You hypocrites should remember this next time someone does it to btc/this forum like it has happened when they decided to DDOS you and you start with your crocodile tears of but why us, we the only ones allowed to do it to anyone we want, but not have it one to us. The bitcoin project of freedom and openness yeah right sell that crock of shit to someone who is buying and that is not me...

fully agree

Glad to see someone else hates his homophobic, Bible-thumping, market-cornering, self-righteous ass.

Luke is. In my opinion as a user here, he SHOULD be banned and have his pool blacklisted by the forum

so is there a reason why diablo is still staff? has been getting in trouble at least once a month, and the only thing he does is post in his "want legit 7970 testing?", and randomly banning users.

You're overreacting and not keeping a level head. We do the things we do to make the forum more readable. In fact, by complaining about moderation in the Eligius thread, you quite successfully changed the topic at hand from what was REALLY important (Luke abusing his pool's power) to something extremely trivial. Remind me to do that in the future when I do something extremely stupid, because apparently it works. We're not your enemy - Luke is. In my opinion as a user here, he SHOULD be banned and have his pool blacklisted by the forum, but as a moderator I have to keep my opinion out of things.