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I will be clear and frank here.I was just to dinner with my wife in a restaurant near the park where we take our daughter to play and that restaurant is frequented heavily by teens being a new modern one with tons of options in fast food beside fancy dinners.I saw that the kids now 14-15 years old were completely different and I would call them crazy compared to when I was 15 near 30 years ago,we were happy to watch some good movies like Reindeer Games with Ben Affleck and play some playstation while the kids of today they were all smoking cigarettes and they got to the bathroom God knows what else they were smoking.It is only natural that the gambling surges in such type of society with these kind of persons,I was really disappointed tonight and I am worried about my daughter already,I would do the max to not let her become one of them.So the gambling surging is only normal for me and it should be news that is surging,news is that how to fight it in such persons.
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The educations available still didn't make positive changes in reducing the rate of users or consumers. An activity like gambling  is widely accepted in the society that the educations available wouldn't get half the publicity of gambling. Most times it increases the publicity and the rate people want to try it. Provided they've seen gamblers that have made money in the game. Their trust would be on what they see, not what they hear in classrooms.

You'd notice a high rate of people who pay deaf ears to risk, all for the sake of money. Assuming these people carefully attend classes to genuinely change or stop a gambling habit, a huge impact would have been made in the lives of young people. Learning requires interest. If the students are not deeply interested in a specific class they would learn or practice what is been thought.
Many people want to try it, of course this will be difficult in educating the public about the bad impacts caused by gambling and with all the ease it can be accessed by anyone, of course this will attract them to try it and moreover, they have seen other people win their bets and things like that. This will of course attract their attention to try it.
To be able to stop the habit of gambling is not an easy thing, even though we have explained at length the impacts that gambling will have, if we teach students about the impacts that will be felt as a result of gambling, it is not certain that they will comply if they have already gambled.
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If this is the case, then it would be necessary that gambling education introduced into the school curriculum. I was initially against move of supporting  gambling education at the secondary school but however, it is pertinent that steps be taken to curtail such otherwise the society will be greeted with underage gamblers.

I also had a second thought over it since government age limit for gambling is 18 and we all know that both  schools are populated with children below that age do you think the government would give consent to allowing gambling education be taught in the elementary schools?
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Even though gambling education has been around for a long time, unfortunately it has not reduced the percentage of gambling among teenagers and shows that it is not very effective in preventing the rise of gambling among teenagers. It is not easy for us to give advice to the younger generation, especially in this day and age where almost everything is online, so it will be difficult to prevent children from gambling because every time they hold a smartphone, advertisements for gambling sites will appear on their smartphone screen, whether intentionally or not, and this is a strong influence for them to start with gamble.

The educations available still didn't make positive changes in reducing the rate of users or consumers. An activity like gambling  is widely accepted in the society that the educations available wouldn't get half the publicity of gambling. Most times it increases the publicity and the rate people want to try it. Provided they've seen gamblers that have made money in the game. Their trust would be on what they see, not what they hear in classrooms.

You'd notice a high rate of people who pay deaf ears to risk, all for the sake of money. Assuming these people carefully attend classes to genuinely change or stop a gambling habit, a huge impact would have been made in the lives of young people. Learning requires interest. If the students are not deeply interested in a specific class they would learn or practice what is been thought.
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Smartest way to cut actual gambling while young but also while an adult is education primarily maths.   If you know the maths to compare and contrast every gambling game, every bet for its value and validity then you are going to be far safer then relying on the law and regulations to put everything behind safety tape for you.

Telling people what they can and cant do is not the most effective method, it makes people believe the game is more attractive and forbidden, we cant even inform people of cancer and smoking and its been decades of solid research.   Make everything as transparent as possible and you have an obvious cause and effect, endless laws can cover things up & it can be quite ironic.
It's true. People have to be taught the logics and rationality behind gambling game, instead of just learning it should be avoided at all costs. If they don't understand why gambling should be avoided or taken in small dosages, why would they do this in first place?

It makes me remember my childhood, when adults told me to avoid bees, because they were dangerous. Other children screamed and ran from them, but I simply couldn't understand why they acted like that, since bees looked inoffensive to me. Due to that belief from my part, I decided to kill one with my bare hands someday, just like we use to do with flies.

Then for my surprise, I felt a harsh and continuous pain on my hand and it instantly swelled, due to the sting. If people had explained me why bees were dangerous instead of only saying they were dangerous, I wouldn't have acted like that.

The same goes with gambling. If people don't know why it's dangerous, of course they will go for it without any precautions, at least not until they feel a harsh pain on their pockets...
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And would you agree with him in implementing gambling prevention education in schools?

I think it will be very cool to implement this kind of education in schools. Perhaps there is a saying that "children are the leaders of tomorrow." So, whatever is necessary to protect and project the future of our kids is very welcome. It will be very bad to overlook the rate at which teens are involved in gambling, which could turn out to affect the future of our kids if they become addicted gamblers in the future. 

Also, I think parents have a large role to play too; they have to properly look after their kids to make sure they are not involving themselves in gambling when they are not even at the age of gambling. 

If "gambling prevention education in schools" can be implemented, that will also go a long way toward helping. 
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And would you agree with him in implementing gambling prevention education in schools?
If gambling prevention education is done for below 18s, it will even help those above 18s that were taught the lesson during their under 18 ages. I will like to see this kind of thing but I do not think it would be possible.

The best education children can have is from home. Parents should start teaching their children gambling prevention education. So that if the children wants to gamble later when they are grown ups, they will know they should use small amount of money which would have been part of the education.

Deeply concur to this parents role in the life of their children as regards to gambling can't not be under estimated, allot of wrong and addicted of gambling by most children is due to negligence by parents, improper parenting and lack of good communication.
Communication has a greater role between parents and children a good communication between parents and children can reshape any environmental negative influence that would have occur to the child because the early information through the parents communication will savage it as the information from the parents we became counter attack where such influence will not penetrate or have dominion on that child.

Many wrong today in the society is as a breached of the parents children communication as all this is given to teacher, minder etc why the parent impact is not felt by the child, inorder to cut off child engagement or been addicted to gambling as tender age parents need good communication to the ur children as that can make them know the environmental influences they don't need to que in.
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Smartest way to cut actual gambling while young but also while an adult is education primarily maths.   If you know the maths to compare and contrast every gambling game, every bet for its value and validity then you are going to be far safer then relying on the law and regulations to put everything behind safety tape for you.

Telling people what they can and cant do is not the most effective method, it makes people believe the game is more attractive and forbidden, we cant even inform people of cancer and smoking and its been decades of solid research.   Make everything as transparent as possible and you have an obvious cause and effect, endless laws can cover things up & it can be quite ironic.
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"It's time for schools to focus on the root cause of online teen gambling by implementing gambling prevention education in all high schools. Health class curricula across the nation cover the typical risks for teens such as smoking, drinking, vaping, etc yet gambling education is nowhere to be found in our schools. "

This is what Colby Cotrone said when interviewed by NBC News about the article he published in NYpost about the online gambling trend among teens causing concern because, in the school halls, they can already overhear teens checking odds and their parlays like it's the most casual thing to do in the campus. This is due to the gambling apps easily downloaded by anyone.

When Marc Potenza the Director of the Center of Excellence in Gambling Research was asked whether they were seeing young patients calling for help, he said there is an increase of 90% in young males with sports gambling problems. Either the patient himself or the parents calling for them. https://youtu.be/pCDbvDDLpFg?t=313

What's striking the most of what Colby Cotrone said was that kids are unaware of what they are doing. Could it be that even the grown-up man may also not be aware of what he is doing as over time a gambler may be consumed by how much he enjoyed the thrills of gambling?

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They think they are doing something as simple as rooting for thier favorite players but it's turned more into making money than the game and having fun as a fan. - Colby Cotrone

And would you agree with him in implementing gambling prevention education in schools?

To reduce the number of teen that plays gamble online, the gambling site should make sure that, for anybody to be able book a game on their site, they most register and part of the registration should be that, you most show an ID that will be verified by the gambling company, to show that your an adult registering on the site, before they can allow you book any game.

I think the school has little role to play, it has more to do with parenting, parents should be checking the gadgets of their teens to know the kind of site they browse at least on a regular basis, the policing of the children activities has lots to do with the parents, the teachers spend few hours with them, however it's not within their job predictions.
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The question was if I agree with this and the answer is: it depends but probably no.
I feel like children are already overwhelmed with the amount of useless stuff the government is trying to teach them, like all the sexual education, gender pronouns, ecology and now they want to teach them about gambling? Isn't that interfering with the basics that parents should be teaching their children? There's knowledge children should acquire at home, for instance if the family is religious it should educate children in that matter, but now schools are trying to teach religion. This is a waste of time and money if you ask me.

Overall I believe the first thing is that schools don't really care about something that is not their job, or I mean they will only teach something that is common in schools that can improve a child's skills and knowledge (regardless of whether the child can understand it or not), and also as you said that a child is already overwhelmed with learning, most of them always feel lazy when it comes to everything that has to be learned.

On the other hand, gambling is not something that everyone should know about, although the goal is good, namely to prevent a child from getting involved in gambling by telling them about all the consequences that can be caused, but it is a fact that a child who is still underage is still unstable and still has a lot of curiosity. This means that isn't it better not to tell them about gambling at all? Obviously, because a child who is still underage will not think too much about the impact, simply put if they are curious then they will do it, and this is why for gambling problems it is better to return to the parents, or it means that it is better for parents to overcome and prepare about all forms of prevention.
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The question was if I agree with this and the answer is: it depends but probably no.
I feel like children are already overwhelmed with the amount of useless stuff the government is trying to teach them, like all the sexual education, gender pronouns, ecology and now they want to teach them about gambling? Isn't that interfering with the basics that parents should be teaching their children? There's knowledge children should acquire at home, for instance if the family is religious it should educate children in that matter, but now schools are trying to teach religion. This is a waste of time and money if you ask me.
Very much agree with your opinion bud, this is also inline with what I said before in my previous comment, children don't need to be taught anything concerning gambling because I personally think it will be counter productive, in the sense that the knowledge of this things can turn around to act as a gambling promotion to the kids, specially the ones that weren't into gambling before.

A much better solution like I've also said before is for the government to start  working closely with both online and offline casinos to bring strict regulation on the issue of underaged/children and teenage gambling, when government sets out in full force to prosecute any child and his or her parents who is caught gambling while the child is not up to the age that is set as the minimum one must attain before he or she starts engaging in gambling, then children will automatically refrain from gambling, also, parents will become up and doing in making sure they give their wards the necessary training on things to avoid doing at their tender age.

I agree with some examples he cited. There are just things that don't need to be taught in schools. These are what they are up to while not even teaching how money works, handling money, and economics which is even more important for the kids to learn at an early stage. But they instead gender pronouns that make them confuse instead.

When the school started sex education, it didn't help diminish the number of teens getting pregnant in contrast bloated to numbers. Its possible this could also happen in gambling education.
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Isn't education about gambling prevention or gambling addiction has been exist since long time? I remember there was few non profit organization conduct a seminar when I was a kid.
Gambling education could have been existing since a long time ago but not common or not existing in some countries. I can say that there is nothing like gambling education in Asia and Africa. I do not think it is common in North America, Europe and South America and Australia. We only even saw this today but which could be ineffective. What we noticed more is that gambling is becoming more common among teen and the under aged are not given a better education on gambling.
Even though gambling education has been around for a long time, unfortunately it has not reduced the percentage of gambling among teenagers and shows that it is not very effective in preventing the rise of gambling among teenagers. It is not easy for us to give advice to the younger generation, especially in this day and age where almost everything is online, so it will be difficult to prevent children from gambling because every time they hold a smartphone, advertisements for gambling sites will appear on their smartphone screen, whether intentionally or not, and this is a strong influence for them to start with gamble.
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If child porn can make someone to being arrested, why did casino that allow teens to gamble didn't get arrested too? Huh

It seems that many people are allowing teens to gamble and take it as a normal thing, as long as the casino pay tax to the government, they didn't care with legality when it comes to money.

The question was if I agree with this and the answer is: it depends but probably no.
I feel like children are already overwhelmed with the amount of useless stuff the government is trying to teach them, like all the sexual education, gender pronouns, ecology and now they want to teach them about gambling? Isn't that interfering with the basics that parents should be teaching their children? There's knowledge children should acquire at home, for instance if the family is religious it should educate children in that matter, but now schools are trying to teach religion. This is a waste of time and money if you ask me.

Not all parents will have a time to teach their kids everyday, both of the parents need to work all the day and taking care the house, so they lack of time, sadly they didn't have enough money to pay babysitter.
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And would you agree with him in implementing gambling prevention education in schools?

Teenagers nowadays have smartphones that they can use to gamble and with the rampant advertising of online casinos coming from different influencers, it's not a surprise that there's a surge in teens getting addicted into online gambling.

A smartphone, and an internet. That is what you need if you want to gamble. Of course, I excluded money because that's a must when you're gambling. Add also the fact that these teenagers might be following some influencers that are promoting gambling websites, and you all have a perfect recipe for an increase in online addiction on teenagers. I would be happy if gambling prevention will be added in school especially now that there are many gamblers who are experiencing negative things about gambling. Some of them might be teens that lost huge amounts of money, and now regretting their decisions.

Overall, I would like to see schools around the world implement this one. Not this year maybe, but in 2-3 years depending on the effect of gambling towards teens and not just teens but other people as well.
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Valid concern, with the ease of accessibility in technology, it's bound to happen that gambling would be easily accessed if they just type in the right words, also this shouldn't be a surprise to any of us because we've all grown up with unrestricted access of the Internet too, I mean most of us had those privileges so it's never really something that we should be surprised right, what we should be doing is that we should do all the things that we've learned when it was us and teach the children that this shouldn't be how they spend their money into or you can just straight up go dictator against them because young children are easy to mold and that's going to be really difficult to do some changes down the line once they become an adult, we should be doing what we can to prevent children from getting addicted to gambling by trying our best to stop them from playing, that's the only way that you can deal with this issue in my opinion.
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(...)And would you agree with him in implementing gambling prevention education in schools?

It's just the way a certain side talks about the negativity of this field. I feel their argument is not wrong but is it necessary to use the word "prevent"?

While there are many interesting things about exploiting probability in mathematics or logic, what is important is our attitude towards this field. I often talk about knives and how to use them, like someone uses it in the kitchen to cook, but someone will use it to kill someone, and the knife is not a crime, it's just a means to kill people, everyone fulfills the purpose.

Blaming the means is an excuse for irresponsible behavior. I think raising awareness for all audiences is the main issue, not blaming good/bad means.
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Fine, there are means of identification, but this has never been 100% effective. As I write, underage people are gambling with verified means online and offline, and they either fake it, buy a verified accounts/IDs or look for older persons to verify the account for them. So this can never be 100% reliable.

But let say you should speak for yourself and not others on others and not speaking for companies, let them talk for themselves. Fine, some casinos will truly mean well for the world, but I can assure you that many, if not almost all of them do not see it that way, they are all for the money regardless of who brings the money. The age issue has been the subject of discussion for so long, it is much better in many sane countries where their system is working and people are not so desperate for money. But for the developing/poor/third world countries where anything goes, nothing like that can't be spoken of them.

By the way, that is for the physical betting. But for online gambling, if not for the regulations, do you think that casinos will not do worse? If some of them could be caught for money laundry and cheating of customers, how much more is collecting money from underage people who they did not force to do so but are willingly interested in gambling. It is the law that is restricting them and curbing a long of menaces and excesses of companies not that they will out of their good nature do the needful, except a few of them that are truly humanly in nature.
Underage gambling is about people, and some of them are bad. Technology is lax. The casinos are more concerned with profit than ethics. The exploit every gap they can find, regardless of who suffers. Shameful. This isnt just about casinos. Its much worse. How various societies manage these issues must be discussed. People with it good have stricter laws and they enforce them. However, in impoverished areas, those rules are relaxed or not implemented. Problems go beyond gambling. The issue is social. We must safeguard the weak. Indeed, without strict legislation and enforcement, this will worsen. These criminals must be punished. Only this will win.
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The question was if I agree with this and the answer is: it depends but probably no.
I feel like children are already overwhelmed with the amount of useless stuff the government is trying to teach them, like all the sexual education, gender pronouns, ecology and now they want to teach them about gambling? Isn't that interfering with the basics that parents should be teaching their children? There's knowledge children should acquire at home, for instance if the family is religious it should educate children in that matter, but now schools are trying to teach religion. This is a waste of time and money if you ask me.
Very much agree with your opinion bud, this is also inline with what I said before in my previous comment, children don't need to be taught anything concerning gambling because I personally think it will be counter productive, in the sense that the knowledge of this things can turn around to act as a gambling promotion to the kids, specially the ones that weren't into gambling before.

A much better solution like I've also said before is for the government to start  working closely with both online and offline casinos to bring strict regulation on the issue of underaged/children and teenage gambling, when government sets out in full force to prosecute any child and his or her parents who is caught gambling while the child is not up to the age that is set as the minimum one must attain before he or she starts engaging in gambling, then children will automatically refrain from gambling, also, parents will become up and doing in making sure they give their wards the necessary training on things to avoid doing at their tender age.
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The question was if I agree with this and the answer is: it depends but probably no.
I feel like children are already overwhelmed with the amount of useless stuff the government is trying to teach them, like all the sexual education, gender pronouns, ecology and now they want to teach them about gambling? Isn't that interfering with the basics that parents should be teaching their children? There's knowledge children should acquire at home, for instance if the family is religious it should educate children in that matter, but now schools are trying to teach religion. This is a waste of time and money if you ask me.
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Of course, a lot depends on the parents, including upbringing and attitude towards gambling. If teenagers constantly see their father playing, then they will probably want to try it too. And even if he forbids them, they will find time and place for what he did not disturb them and will completely plunge into the world of excitement. Another difficulty is that it can be difficult for a teenager to explain and understand how dependent one can be; he can only do so through his own sad experience. Therefore, I sometimes wonder whether he will even be able to understand where this dependence begins, because even an adult cannot determine this very often.
That's true, there will be some moments that they're going to gamble even if they will be prohibit that's why the patronage should start at home.

The time will come for these teenagers that they will realize that life isn't just all about them gambling all day long or getting some money from their parent's pockets.

While those that have side hustles, they can do whatever they want with their money. Yes, there are teenagers nowadays with side hustles but still that doesn't give them a pass to gamble.

Yes, it is possible, but I think it depends on the environment they are in, because usually it is very easy for someone to fall into negative things if they are in the wrong environment.

But yes, if they are in the wrong environment then they will most likely fall into various negative things, whether it's gambling, alcohol or other negative things that can have a bad impact on their lives, on the other hand, yes I understand what you said that teenagers should understand that life is not about gambling alone, but usually someone who is still in their teens just wants something that makes them curious and maybe one of them is gambling.

On the other hand I think it doesn't matter even if for example they have their own income or still depend on both parents in terms of finances but still if if they use the money for negative things then it is prohibited or not recommended, none other than because after all there are bad effects that will most likely continue to lurk them, and overall I think this is the job of parents who must be able to supervise and direct their children to something right.
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