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October 20, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
#44
Quoting this with #ASKFTC as they may be looking for like this. Obviously Josh has up and run with our money or spent it to build his so-called petahash farms he talks about. He talks about various lofty deals and other things and then here he claims no money OR he made a ton of it. Hard to tell what is going on really. But I do think they are still making money or they would not be so quiet.

Hey guys, late to the party on this.  I have virtually ignored all AMT discussion for the past  couple of months just to keep my BP down and because it looked like a lost cause.

But I am on board for whatever we can still do.  

Here is my basic info and some small grist for the mill.

Order #1188  December 26, 2013 $5999 plus $160 for 2-3 day "express" shipping.  Paid via Bitcoin transaction id: 4cec5822c9aa2465f3fca5f18a7af30a9b86820a164ac8593f7d146e0edab625

Order #1196 February 13, 2014 (backdated to batch 1 pursuant to email agreement with "Jim Brown" to treat this as Batch 1 order as I was buying out another earlier customer's order; paid directly to AMT via Cashier's Check sent UPS #1z6y475v0126589061
My payment in the latter case was sent to:

Advanced Mining Technologies Inc.
355 Lancaster Ave, Bldg E1, Haverford, PA, 19041

During my discussions with "Jim Brown" at AMT when I agreed to take over order #1196, Jim assured me that the delivery date was holding in an email to me on February 12, 2014 in which he wrote:

"[other use name redacted] was due to receive his miner by the end of this month but to give you a specific date with our backed up orders wouldn't be fair. I can give you a range, that it will ship between 24th-28th."

So there can be no doubt he was talking about FEB 24-28th, this was in response to my question as to whether this was shipping "the same or very close to my other order" which was a December 26 Batch One order.

Keep in mind that we now know that in February AMT has since admitted that it did not even have a contract to produce boards, so it would have been an outright falsehood to promise delivery only 2 weeks from the date of that email.

Some other correspondence I have kept:

Jan 17 email from "Hanna" [email protected]:
Hi Jeff,

Based on your order number and the notes in our system, I see your miner will be shipped out between February 24th and March 3rd.

All the best,

Hanna


Jan 28 2014 email to [email protected]:

Hanna,

Per my prior order, I am expecting delivery of the 1.2 Th/s miner between February 24 - March 3.

I noticed  the 550 Gh/s miner, which is also based on the same 28nm coincraft chip as the 1.2 Th/s miner, and is now listed as having delivery in "3 weeks or less" and appears to still be available to purchase.

Is this real or just a marketing statement?

If I purchase the 550 Gh/s miner now, will I receive it before the 1.2 Th/s that I ordered in December?  Do you already have a working model of this or any product based on the coincraft chips?   Or is the 3 weeks or less time period a "target/pre-sale"?

I am already on the pre-order cycle, but if I can get the 550 Gh/s in 3 weeks or less, I would do that and take both!  But I don't want to buy another machine and then wait 4+ weeks since I already have the 1.2 Th/s system on order.

Jeff


Jan 29 2014 response from "Jim" [email protected]:
Jeff,

It's actually 4 weeks or less, and that's from the time the payment is made not the order is made. Since most of our clients pay via check, there is a 10 day gap in there and we account for an extra possible week on top of that. Then it comes down to assembly time, and the amount of machines ordered per unit. We're building in order as fast as we can. Most likely you'd get both of them around the same time.

All the best

jim

March 31 2014 from Jim [email protected]
Jeff,

Sorry about the lack of response, it's been pretty hectic as you can imagine. I'll do my best to get your machines out this week.

All the best
Jim

May 2 2014 from [email protected]
No one is leaving the country.

We'll be taking care of your orders as well.

Best

Jim



 
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October 20, 2014, 03:55:23 PM
#43
Hey guys, late to the party on this.  I have virtually ignored all AMT discussion for the past  couple of months just to keep my BP down and because it looked like a lost cause.

But I am on board for whatever we can still do. 

Here is my basic info and some small grist for the mill.

Order #1188  December 26, 2013 $5999 plus $160 for 2-3 day "express" shipping.  Paid via Bitcoin transaction id: 4cec5822c9aa2465f3fca5f18a7af30a9b86820a164ac8593f7d146e0edab625

Order #1196 February 13, 2014 (backdated to batch 1 pursuant to email agreement with "Jim Brown" to treat this as Batch 1 order as I was buying out another earlier customer's order; paid directly to AMT via Cashier's Check sent UPS #1z6y475v0126589061
My payment in the latter case was sent to:

Advanced Mining Technologies Inc.
355 Lancaster Ave, Bldg E1, Haverford, PA, 19041

During my discussions with "Jim Brown" at AMT when I agreed to take over order #1196, Jim assured me that the delivery date was holding in an email to me on February 12, 2014 in which he wrote:

"[other use name redacted] was due to receive his miner by the end of this month but to give you a specific date with our backed up orders wouldn't be fair. I can give you a range, that it will ship between 24th-28th."

So there can be no doubt he was talking about FEB 24-28th, this was in response to my question as to whether this was shipping "the same or very close to my other order" which was a December 26 Batch One order.

Keep in mind that we now know that in February AMT has since admitted that it did not even have a contract to produce boards, so it would have been an outright falsehood to promise delivery only 2 weeks from the date of that email.

Some other correspondence I have kept:

Jan 17 email from "Hanna" [email protected]:
Hi Jeff,

Based on your order number and the notes in our system, I see your miner will be shipped out between February 24th and March 3rd.

All the best,

Hanna


Jan 28 2014 email to [email protected]:

Hanna,

Per my prior order, I am expecting delivery of the 1.2 Th/s miner between February 24 - March 3.

I noticed  the 550 Gh/s miner, which is also based on the same 28nm coincraft chip as the 1.2 Th/s miner, and is now listed as having delivery in "3 weeks or less" and appears to still be available to purchase.

Is this real or just a marketing statement?

If I purchase the 550 Gh/s miner now, will I receive it before the 1.2 Th/s that I ordered in December?  Do you already have a working model of this or any product based on the coincraft chips?   Or is the 3 weeks or less time period a "target/pre-sale"?

I am already on the pre-order cycle, but if I can get the 550 Gh/s in 3 weeks or less, I would do that and take both!  But I don't want to buy another machine and then wait 4+ weeks since I already have the 1.2 Th/s system on order.

Jeff


Jan 29 2014 response from "Jim" [email protected]:
Jeff,

It's actually 4 weeks or less, and that's from the time the payment is made not the order is made. Since most of our clients pay via check, there is a 10 day gap in there and we account for an extra possible week on top of that. Then it comes down to assembly time, and the amount of machines ordered per unit. We're building in order as fast as we can. Most likely you'd get both of them around the same time.

All the best

jim

March 31 2014 from Jim [email protected]
Jeff,

Sorry about the lack of response, it's been pretty hectic as you can imagine. I'll do my best to get your machines out this week.

All the best
Jim

May 2 2014 from [email protected]
No one is leaving the country.

We'll be taking care of your orders as well.

Best

Jim



 
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October 09, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
#42
Read http://amtminers.wordpress.com/ check it out bitches. Lots to read. Let's get this bastid.
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September 10, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
#41
For anyone with issues and who felt they have been defrauded by Joshua Zipkin please send me a PM with the details of your situation (no personal information required) just the order number and the amount. If you have been in other ways defrauded or somehow illegally acted upon by him feel free to also put that information in the PM. I will reply with the information you will require to make this happen. If you are international, this matter can still apply you as well.
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September 04, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
#40
zipkin should do the world a favor and off himself.
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September 04, 2014, 01:50:05 AM
#39
They seem to have gotten confident that they no longer need the BCT forum any more. I think since they are going to be in Vegas well....use your imagination. Maybe PG will be there to inform the public there Wink

Meanwhile, http://amtminers.wordpress.com/.

In the best British accent I can muster.....BRILLIANT!!!!

Speaking of BRILLIANT!!!!

In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO-EGJhdx4U, I'm on record in stating that I purposely repositioned that portable screwdriver in front of the window so that it wouldn't be behind me when Joshua Zipking started recording. I did such with Josh's full knowledge of it taking place while he watched me do it, not realizing as to why, but I was trying to subtlety relay in the video is that AMT's customers are getting a screwing.

I walked (drove) away from AMT's office with a miner that was intended for Casey in lieu of the 20 BTC he reneged on with me being in his office less than five minutes. Don't worry Casey, you wouldn't of wanted it. It took Josh and his team of three the better half of the afternoon to just get one AMT miner hacked together to give to Casey and his dad. To this day, Casey hasn't even mined enough off that one AMT miner to pay for the trip to pick the piece of shit up.

That's what everybody will deserve if from this day forward they purchase ANYTHING with Josh Zipkin's name attached to it no matter how loosely. Any Bitcoin-based entity that's found out that they're dealing with Joshua Zipkin WILL feel the same wrath that AMT WILL continue to go through for a long time.

~Bruno Kucinskas
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September 03, 2014, 07:28:32 PM
#38
They seem to have gotten confident that they no longer need the BCT forum any more. I think since they are going to be in Vegas well....use your imagination. Maybe PG will be there to inform the public there Wink

Meanwhile, http://amtminers.wordpress.com/.

In the best British accent I can muster.....BRILLIANT!!!!
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September 03, 2014, 06:31:54 PM
#37
They seem to have gotten confident that they no longer need the BCT forum any more. I think since they are going to be in Vegas well....use your imagination. Maybe PG will be there to inform the public there Wink

Meanwhile, http://amtminers.wordpress.com/.
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September 03, 2014, 05:06:11 PM
#36
They seem to have gotten confident that they no longer need the BCT forum any more. I think since they are going to be in Vegas well....use your imagination. Maybe PG will be there to inform the public there Wink
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Just a regular guy who likes his fiber.
September 03, 2014, 04:10:47 PM
#35
Well, it says they are an exhibitor not a sponsor.

Hmm vegas is only a 6 hour drive form here I could always make a trip up, I'd love to see the other exhibitions.
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August 30, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
#34
FYI Kusmet is the default user account Josh is using to mine with our hardware with on f2pool. Its configured into each miner by default. Considering how they are being shipped....well easy to see the oversight.

EDIT: other bulgarian users have confirmed that kusmet means luck. Considering Joshua Zipkin is of Bulgarian descent, this certainly is the likley scenario that he was mining with our hardware for all of this time. How long however is unknown until a more detailed look at the logs is done.
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August 29, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
#33

WTF!

Quote
Not a whole lot, just that he focuses on exposing these kinds of tactics and scams in a comedic if vulgar fashion on a regular basis, it’s his thing. I don’t always agree with his approach, but we have a mutual respect about it.

I think despite the “nuclear-powered” approach he takes he gets results and genuinely seems interested in making sure people don’t get screwed over, all while providing some chuckles along the way.

I couldn't have penned it better myself. Thanks, bud. Spot on!

~Bruno Kucinskas

WTF!>

Lol I read it backwards. Went down then up...not sure why lol.
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August 29, 2014, 11:55:22 AM
#32

WTF!

Quote
Not a whole lot, just that he focuses on exposing these kinds of tactics and scams in a comedic if vulgar fashion on a regular basis, it’s his thing. I don’t always agree with his approach, but we have a mutual respect about it.

I think despite the “nuclear-powered” approach he takes he gets results and genuinely seems interested in making sure people don’t get screwed over, all while providing some chuckles along the way.

I couldn't have penned it better myself. Thanks, bud. Spot on!

~Bruno Kucinskas

WTF!>
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August 29, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
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Opieum2

YOU ROCK!!!!!
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August 29, 2014, 10:53:13 AM
#29
Adding a little more. Looks like other's are coming forward with their chats as well, all I gotta say is...Wow....just wow. The comments on the handicapped.....

Saying a power supply would be sent ( I still haven't received one)

[8/20/2014 6:12:45 AM] Josh: someone will send you a supply from the office today
[8/20/2014 6:12:56 AM] Me: Thank you much.
[8/20/2014 6:13:10 AM] Josh: stop being a dick on the thread anyway
[8/20/2014 6:13:29 AM] Josh: josh should go to prison..
[8/20/2014 6:13:35 AM] Josh: like com'n
[8/20/2014 6:15:19 AM] Me: Look you know how if you want attention from your parents you try to do all the good things?

But then they ignore so you act bad and you get punished but at least you get attention?

That is essentially how that thread has become.
[8/20/2014 6:16:53 AM] Me: At least posting shit like that gets attention. And now that I have an answer I can go to sleep and leave the forum be.

Lack of pride in his Chinese partners

Me: I'll also likely put together a video review for youtube. Just of the miner, objectivly.
[8/18/2014 2:36:00 PM] Joshua: id appreciate that
[8/18/2014 2:36:11 PM] Joshua: its not a dragon miner, the boards are inno'
[8/18/2014 2:36:14 PM] Joshua: s design
[8/18/2014 2:36:33 PM] Joshua: leave the word "chinese" out of it if possible

Josh: saying that the fake chats were just altered chats by phin:

[8/17/2014 3:28:37 PM] Joshua: the convo is altered, it was posted by a man who got kicked off the forum for fucking with us to much
[8/17/2014 3:28:41 PM] Joshua: consider the god damn source

On his business acumen:
[8/14/2014 2:44:10 AM] Me: I can be an assest I just don't like to be fucked with.
[8/14/2014 2:44:12 AM] Joshua: thats all, because i wasnt to go there until tomorrow after noon
[8/14/2014 2:44:24 AM] Joshua: no one is fucking with you
[8/14/2014 2:44:34 AM] Joshua: if anything im just too Adhdh and incompitent sometimes

His thoughts on veterans:

[8/14/2014 1:58:10 AM] Joshua: no the vets comment was me
[8/14/2014 1:58:22 AM] Joshua: because like wtf.. like you being a vet has anything to do with this at all?
[8/14/2014 1:58:22 AM] Me: Yeah, but I have to delete it in the AMT Users thread
[8/14/2014 1:58:54 AM] Joshua: its like crippled people that batch about a building not being handy cap accessable
[8/14/2014 1:59:00 AM] Joshua: no thats a bad analogy.
[8/14/2014 1:59:15 AM] Joshua: its like crippled people complaining about the ramp being too high?

And what he thinks of the Chinese people:

[6/30/2014 3:19:26 PM] Joshua: curt
[6/30/2014 3:20:01 PM] Joshua: i know your pissed dude, im trying to get these thing out, im sitting here in fucking  ridiculously hot shenzhen argueing with these yellow bastards daily
 


Ironically, it was those very retarded yellow bastard vets that built the very machines that Josh Zipkin of AMT couldn't produce here in the US that were currently shipped to some of their awaiting customers.
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August 29, 2014, 10:42:15 AM
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Adding a little more. Looks like other's are coming forward with their chats as well, all I gotta say is...Wow....just wow. The comments on the handicapped.....

Saying a power supply would be sent ( I still haven't received one)

[8/20/2014 6:12:45 AM] Josh: someone will send you a supply from the office today
[8/20/2014 6:12:56 AM] Me: Thank you much.
[8/20/2014 6:13:10 AM] Josh: stop being a dick on the thread anyway
[8/20/2014 6:13:29 AM] Josh: josh should go to prison..
[8/20/2014 6:13:35 AM] Josh: like com'n
[8/20/2014 6:15:19 AM] Me: Look you know how if you want attention from your parents you try to do all the good things?

But then they ignore so you act bad and you get punished but at least you get attention?

That is essentially how that thread has become.
[8/20/2014 6:16:53 AM] Me: At least posting shit like that gets attention. And now that I have an answer I can go to sleep and leave the forum be.

Lack of pride in his Chinese partners

Me: I'll also likely put together a video review for youtube. Just of the miner, objectivly.
[8/18/2014 2:36:00 PM] Joshua: id appreciate that
[8/18/2014 2:36:11 PM] Joshua: its not a dragon miner, the boards are inno'
[8/18/2014 2:36:14 PM] Joshua: s design
[8/18/2014 2:36:33 PM] Joshua: leave the word "chinese" out of it if possible

Josh: saying that the fake chats were just altered chats by phin:

[8/17/2014 3:28:37 PM] Joshua: the convo is altered, it was posted by a man who got kicked off the forum for fucking with us to much
[8/17/2014 3:28:41 PM] Joshua: consider the god damn source

On his business acumen:
[8/14/2014 2:44:10 AM] Me: I can be an assest I just don't like to be fucked with.
[8/14/2014 2:44:12 AM] Joshua: thats all, because i wasnt to go there until tomorrow after noon
[8/14/2014 2:44:24 AM] Joshua: no one is fucking with you
[8/14/2014 2:44:34 AM] Joshua: if anything im just too Adhdh and incompitent sometimes

His thoughts on veterans:

[8/14/2014 1:58:10 AM] Joshua: no the vets comment was me
[8/14/2014 1:58:22 AM] Joshua: because like wtf.. like you being a vet has anything to do with this at all?
[8/14/2014 1:58:22 AM] Me: Yeah, but I have to delete it in the AMT Users thread
[8/14/2014 1:58:54 AM] Joshua: its like crippled people that batch about a building not being handy cap accessable
[8/14/2014 1:59:00 AM] Joshua: no thats a bad analogy.
[8/14/2014 1:59:15 AM] Joshua: its like crippled people complaining about the ramp being too high?

And what he thinks of the Chinese people:

[6/30/2014 3:19:26 PM] Joshua: curt
[6/30/2014 3:20:01 PM] Joshua: i know your pissed dude, im trying to get these thing out, im sitting here in fucking  ridiculously hot shenzhen argueing with these yellow bastards daily
 
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August 29, 2014, 09:32:23 AM
#27
zipkin do you really think about me THAT much? wow, i must have a huge space rented in that little brain of yours. it's good to know though Smiley i bet your thinking about me right now.
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August 28, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
#26
I was digging through the chats some more. Here is a particularly racist tirade and a lame jab at clenell.

[8/12/2014 1:01:34 PM] Joshua: now i just have to what, build a new brand and sell them
[8/12/2014 1:01:38 PM] Joshua: or sell them to other countries right
[8/12/2014 1:01:58 PM] Joshua: How about Lenell Miners
[8/12/2014 1:02:01 PM] customer2: seems like.. Well you mentioned Korea and PI.
[8/12/2014 1:02:10 PM] customer2: heh heh...
[8/12/2014 1:02:17 PM] Joshua: yes we'll start selling there for sure
[8/12/2014 1:02:31 PM] Joshua: Ill start a new US brand, Lenell Miners
[8/12/2014 1:02:42 PM] Joshua: kinda catch, like lenovo
[8/12/2014 1:02:55 PM] customer2: there ya go.
[8/12/2014 1:03:02 PM] Joshua: Or just accept my role now and create Inno miners
[8/12/2014 1:03:23 PM] Joshua: im a china man's lacky..

In case he claims this was made up by PG. I blurred out customer2's real user name to protect his identity. He was in all this trying to help.



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August 28, 2014, 09:36:18 AM
#25
A little off topic (maybe not so much)

I've meet Phin at last years Las Vegas conference and noticed that AMT ( I think this is the same AMT ) is a sponsor at this years Vegas Conference (http://insidebitcoins.com/las-vegas/2014/sponsors/)

Phin will you be going to this years?

Well considering they are a sponsor.....hmmm this implies they have money.......clearly money that should be going to pay their clients back. But they have marketing dollars to sponsor an event?! curiouser and curiouser.

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