in the 43rd minute the athletico defender Pedro Henrique got the yellow-red card and so the club played the complete second half in a shorthanded situation
Topic: ⚽ Conmebol Libertadores 2022 - Prediction and Discussion Thread (Read 230 times)
flamengo defeated athletico paranaense 1-0 in the copa libertadores final played in guayaquil (ecuador). the winning goal was scored by Gabriel Barbosa. the club from rio de janeiro won the competition, which is the south american equivalent of the european champions league, for the third time (after 1981 and 2019) in history.
in the 43rd minute the athletico defender Pedro Henrique got the yellow-red card and so the club played the complete second half in a shorthanded situation
in the 43rd minute the athletico defender Pedro Henrique got the yellow-red card and so the club played the complete second half in a shorthanded situation
September 11, 2022, 01:28:14 AM
Well, looking at all the things that some Brazilian teams have gone through, I think that soccer has been seriously affected by the same things, sometimes by world events that made the world apralised, and all the clubs in the world, I don't know if thanks to that some teams lowered their soccer level and appealed that everything had been resolved quickly, but we have seen that some clubs, especially European ones that have had a hard time overcoming especially with their economic income to which they were accustomed, now in the Brasileirao It has also affected them, only there is something that has a great influence, every Brazilian is always playing soccer, even in a pandemic, I am sure that Brazilians at least touched the ball by doing series, and this is something that must be rescued.
September 08, 2022, 05:24:49 PM
So, here we are, the final of Libertadores, and both teams are brazilians, but not Palmeiras 
What a surprise for me
Athletico PR managed to draw and classify against the best team of Brazil nowadays, Felipao did a great job again with a not perfect team
And Flamengo did what was predictable, they won again and the final result of 2 matches was 6 x 1, a great difference.
Big final will be October 29
I'll study the match, Flamengo is favorite in my opinion, but after the match against Palmeiras, Athetico PR is motivated enough and have real chances to be the champion against the odds.
What a surprise for me
Athletico PR managed to draw and classify against the best team of Brazil nowadays, Felipao did a great job again with a not perfect team
And Flamengo did what was predictable, they won again and the final result of 2 matches was 6 x 1, a great difference.
Big final will be October 29
I'll study the match, Flamengo is favorite in my opinion, but after the match against Palmeiras, Athetico PR is motivated enough and have real chances to be the champion against the odds.
September 07, 2022, 12:01:59 AM
Honestly I saw the Flamengo game and I am surprised how Corinthians has lowered its level, does anyone know how or why these results? Something will be wrong within the players' squad, I speculate that it could be a lot of things, lack of money, bad inter-personal relations, disagreement with the technical director and all these things are what can affect a team.
Corinthians is really going through a bad phase in several championships this year.
Corinthinas is really having problems with the relationship between players and tactics and even between the players themselves.
It seems that Corinthinas no longer has that desire to score goals, something is missing.
In addition, other problems are the wrong lineups and the many players injured in important games.
2020 is not the year for the Corinthians to shine.
Well this is sad for me because seeing that Corinthians has done a good job in one season, they were even unstoppable and even I thought that this could be the only team that could face Palmeiras, but you're right, if there is misunderstandings between the players and with internal problems is very difficult to bring that well to the field, always in a team what must exist is absolute brotherhood so that they can understand each other and that everyone gets along, it is difficult to mesh a team almost under one same feeling, because being so disunited, misunderstandings arise on and off the field, I hope they can find a solution to these problems.
September 01, 2022, 07:22:29 AM
Yes, you're right, About me the CORINTHIAS was like that great love that in a moment leaves you there inspired and in love, but it really leaves a mark, I don't know what happened to the Corinthians, without emabro we can never stop thinking about the logic and that in the strongest team, for me the strongest team and that I believe that all this will be for Palmeiras, it is an unstoppable team, both here and in Brasilaeirao they have stood out, Palmeiras now represents Brazil in all its splendor, I think that a team like this can go over the Argentine team that gets involved, I don't see Palmeiras out anymore.
If you believe more in Palmeiras, I think Flamengo is now stronger, but let's see, they will probably do the finals
And we have the results of the first match of semi finals
Palmeiras lose to Athletico 0 x 1, it was a surprise for me, but not too much, because now Palmeiras will revert on the match, playing in home, it's not hard to beat Athletico PR
And Flamengo won 4 x 0 against Velez, wow, I don't think Velez can do 4 x 0 to get penaltys or even 5x0 to classify
Let's see the odds for the match of Palmeiras, maybe will be interesting to bet on a win for 2 goals, when I know the odds I'll post here
August 27, 2022, 05:48:41 PM
And now Libertadores is heading to semi-finals
3 Brazilian Teams and 1 Argentinian
Unfortunately my team Corinthians is out, my best bet now is Flamengo, the team is now stronger with Arturo Vidal (from Chile)
The next matches will be on 31st August
Flamengo x Vélez
Palmeiras x Ahtletico-PR
Commom guys, only a few matches to see the winner and the next team to try the World Cup
Yes, you're right, About me the CORINTHIAS was like that great love that in a moment leaves you there inspired and in love, but it really leaves a mark, I don't know what happened to the Corinthians, without emabro we can never stop thinking about the logic and that in the strongest team, for me the strongest team and that I believe that all this will be for Palmeiras, it is an unstoppable team, both here and in Brasilaeirao they have stood out, Palmeiras now represents Brazil in all its splendor, I think that a team like this can go over the Argentine team that gets involved, I don't see Palmeiras out anymore.3 Brazilian Teams and 1 Argentinian
Unfortunately my team Corinthians is out, my best bet now is Flamengo, the team is now stronger with Arturo Vidal (from Chile)
The next matches will be on 31st August
Flamengo x Vélez
Palmeiras x Ahtletico-PR
Commom guys, only a few matches to see the winner and the next team to try the World Cup
August 21, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
Honestly I saw the Flamengo game and I am surprised how Corinthians has lowered its level, does anyone know how or why these results? Something will be wrong within the players' squad, I speculate that it could be a lot of things, lack of money, bad inter-personal relations, disagreement with the technical director and all these things are what can affect a team.
Corinthians is really going through a bad phase in several championships this year.
Corinthinas is really having problems with the relationship between players and tactics and even between the players themselves.
It seems that Corinthinas no longer has that desire to score goals, something is missing.
In addition, other problems are the wrong lineups and the many players injured in important games.
2020 is not the year for the Corinthians to shine.
August 20, 2022, 05:23:55 PM
Don't be surprised, the participation of Latin American users here is generally quite low, and when it comes to the Gambling tab this tends to be even worse.
I strongly believe that Flamengo is the team in the best position to win this season in the Libertadores Cup.
But... if I get this prediction wrong, then Palmeiras will have won this Cup
Yes, the victory will be of a Brazilian team!
I strongly believe that Flamengo is the team in the best position to win this season in the Libertadores Cup.
But... if I get this prediction wrong, then Palmeiras will have won this Cup
Yes, the victory will be of a Brazilian team!
Unfortunately it's true, it's sad to see low engagement of latin america / south america here
But I'll do my best to keep this thread alive and updated, in the finals could bring more attention here because the winner will play on Fifa Clubs World Cup probably against the winner of UEFA Champions League
I think brazilians teams are favorite and one of them will win
Today is the day of Palmeiras vs Atletico - MG, if anyone is interested to watch, just search on google Palmeiras vs Atletico facebook Watch, it's official.
Yestersday Corinthians lost to Flamengo 0 x 2, I think it's done for us
On the other hand, yes, it is sad to see that there is a low participation of users who are Latin Americans, but I think it is due to the lack of publicity that is not given to the Copa Libertadores, in fact, if it had as much publicity as they do for the UEFA, or the League, Bundesliga I am sure that many users from different parts of the world were very active and knew more about this beautiful land and its South American football that has a high level and is an exemplary land of pure world champions.
August 12, 2022, 02:29:24 PM
And now Libertadores is heading to semi-finals
3 Brazilian Teams and 1 Argentinian
Unfortunately my team Corinthians is out, my best bet now is Flamengo, the team is now stronger with Arturo Vidal (from Chile)
The next matches will be on 31st August
Flamengo x Vélez
Palmeiras x Ahtletico-PR
Commom guys, only a few matches to see the winner and the next team to try the World Cup
3 Brazilian Teams and 1 Argentinian
Unfortunately my team Corinthians is out, my best bet now is Flamengo, the team is now stronger with Arturo Vidal (from Chile)
The next matches will be on 31st August
Flamengo x Vélez
Palmeiras x Ahtletico-PR
Commom guys, only a few matches to see the winner and the next team to try the World Cup
August 03, 2022, 08:30:40 PM
Don't be surprised, the participation of Latin American users here is generally quite low, and when it comes to the Gambling tab this tends to be even worse.
I strongly believe that Flamengo is the team in the best position to win this season in the Libertadores Cup.
But... if I get this prediction wrong, then Palmeiras will have won this Cup
Yes, the victory will be of a Brazilian team!
I strongly believe that Flamengo is the team in the best position to win this season in the Libertadores Cup.
But... if I get this prediction wrong, then Palmeiras will have won this Cup
Yes, the victory will be of a Brazilian team!
Unfortunately it's true, it's sad to see low engagement of latin america / south america here
But I'll do my best to keep this thread alive and updated, in the finals could bring more attention here because the winner will play on Fifa Clubs World Cup probably against the winner of UEFA Champions League
I think brazilians teams are favorite and one of them will win
Today is the day of Palmeiras vs Atletico - MG, if anyone is interested to watch, just search on google Palmeiras vs Atletico facebook Watch, it's official.
Yestersday Corinthians lost to Flamengo 0 x 2, I think it's done for us
August 02, 2022, 09:58:30 PM
I'm shocked, I didn't find any thread about Libertadores 
So it's my duty to create one to this incredible cup, this is the most important championship of South America
The winner is qualified to FIFA Club World Cup, and most of times will play against the champion of UEFA Champions League
Let's try to predict the winner of this year, I'll make a poll with the most favorite teams, the 4th round will start, we are in the middle of group stage
So it's my duty to create one to this incredible cup, this is the most important championship of South America
The winner is qualified to FIFA Club World Cup, and most of times will play against the champion of UEFA Champions League
Let's try to predict the winner of this year, I'll make a poll with the most favorite teams, the 4th round will start, we are in the middle of group stage
Don't be surprised, the participation of Latin American users here is generally quite low, and when it comes to the Gambling tab this tends to be even worse.
I strongly believe that Flamengo is the team in the best position to win this season in the Libertadores Cup.
But... if I get this prediction wrong, then Palmeiras will have won this Cup
Yes, the victory will be of a Brazilian team!
August 02, 2022, 07:47:03 PM
Sorry for my absence guys, I was sick, COVID, and it was extremely difficult to sit and use a PC.
The Libertadores is on exciting phase of quarter finals, this is the chart:
The match of Corinthians (my team) will be today, if anyone is interested in any match, Facebook Watch will stream for free, another options is Fox Sports and ESPN
The Libertadores is on exciting phase of quarter finals, this is the chart:
The match of Corinthians (my team) will be today, if anyone is interested in any match, Facebook Watch will stream for free, another options is Fox Sports and ESPN
Well yes, you are absolutely right, the truth is you know a lot about the history of the Libertadores, I always follow it, in fact as I said before, I am from Deportivo Táchira because it is the area where I live, and really when I was at the University, a One day the Santos from Brazil went to train on the field of my University, there I only saw how the Brazilians ran, that did not seem like a practice, it seemed like a waste of talent on the part of the Brazilians, they played at great speed, incredible strength, and Not even thinking about the force they kicked, obviously at that moment it was difficult for me to recognize that they were superior, that is why I emphasize, now with everything and Mbappé's comment, the winning team of the Copa Libertadores should win the Intercontinental Cup.
Oh, I love Libertadores and always watched, it is a lot of emotions and memorable matches, and in Brazil is easy to watch, the fact that Corinthians won Libertadores made me love even more hehehe
And soon or later a south american team will win again, no doubt, but win against this year champion of Uefa Real Madrid will be almost impossible
It's almost time guys, the first matches of next phase will start in a week, and these are the matches:
I'm anxious to see the match Corinthians vs Boca Juniors, I'm confident Corinthians can win at least 1 x 0, but the match in La Bombonera will be tough, maybe we can expect even some red cards and fight of the players, I'm not kidding
Well yes, you are absolutely right, the truth is you know a lot about the history of the Libertadores, I always follow it, in fact as I said before, I am from Deportivo Táchira because it is the area where I live, and really when I was at the University, a One day the Santos from Brazil went to train on the field of my University, there I only saw how the Brazilians ran, that did not seem like a practice, it seemed like a waste of talent on the part of the Brazilians, they played at great speed, incredible strength, and Not even thinking about the force they kicked, obviously at that moment it was difficult for me to recognize that they were superior, that is why I emphasize, now with everything and Mbappé's comment, the winning team of the Copa Libertadores should win the Intercontinental Cup.
Oh, I love Libertadores and always watched, it is a lot of emotions and memorable matches, and in Brazil is easy to watch, the fact that Corinthians won Libertadores made me love even more hehehe
And soon or later a south american team will win again, no doubt, but win against this year champion of Uefa Real Madrid will be almost impossible
It's almost time guys, the first matches of next phase will start in a week, and these are the matches:
I'm anxious to see the match Corinthians vs Boca Juniors, I'm confident Corinthians can win at least 1 x 0, but the match in La Bombonera will be tough, maybe we can expect even some red cards and fight of the players, I'm not kidding
Well the Copa Libertadores is very good, the only thing is that sometimes I don't know for what reason when the intercontinental cup is going to be played the South American teams can't beat the UCL champion, I don't understand the reason, I only remember when Barcelona played against Neymar's Santos, that at that moment Santos surrendered very quickly, I did not see the magic that Neymar Jr had at that moment, I did not see all the strength that the entire team possessed, that if they had played with the same claw they had In the final the story would have been different.
Considering only the Fifa World Cup of clubs since 2000 (before it's Toyota Cup, and only 1 match), so the "official" is from 2000 until now
We have the south american champions:
- 2000 - Corinthians (2nd place was Vasco da Gama)
- 2005 - Sao Paulo (2nd place was Liverpool)
- 2006 - Internacional (2nd place was Barcelona)
- 2012 - Corinthians (2nd place was Chelsea)
After the Fifa layout since 2000, only a few teams of South American won against European teams and all of them are Brazilians
Santos with Neymar in 2011 only "watched" Barcelona, it was 4x0, distant from Santos from Libertadores who won with merits, with Neymar, Paulo Henrique Ganso and others, I want to credit que excelent year of the coach Muricy Ramalho.
It looks like Santos had so many players in young ages, and they are not experienced enough to control the anxiety and happiness to play the world cup against Barcelona
But don't forget Barcelona that year had Guardiola, V. Valdés, Piqué, D. Alves, Puyol, Iniesta, Messi and many others hahaha
In the recent years Flamengo and Palmeiras were the favorites to win again a world cup, but they didn't get
Well yes, you are absolutely right, the truth is you know a lot about the history of the Libertadores, I always follow it, in fact as I said before, I am from Deportivo Táchira because it is the area where I live, and really when I was at the University, a One day the Santos from Brazil went to train on the field of my University, there I only saw how the Brazilians ran, that did not seem like a practice, it seemed like a waste of talent on the part of the Brazilians, they played at great speed, incredible strength, and Not even thinking about the force they kicked, obviously at that moment it was difficult for me to recognize that they were superior, that is why I emphasize, now with everything and Mbappé's comment, the winning team of the Copa Libertadores should win the Intercontinental Cup.
Well the Copa Libertadores is very good, the only thing is that sometimes I don't know for what reason when the intercontinental cup is going to be played the South American teams can't beat the UCL champion, I don't understand the reason, I only remember when Barcelona played against Neymar's Santos, that at that moment Santos surrendered very quickly, I did not see the magic that Neymar Jr had at that moment, I did not see all the strength that the entire team possessed, that if they had played with the same claw they had In the final the story would have been different.
Considering only the Fifa World Cup of clubs since 2000 (before it's Toyota Cup, and only 1 match), so the "official" is from 2000 until now
We have the south american champions:
- 2000 - Corinthians (2nd place was Vasco da Gama)
- 2005 - Sao Paulo (2nd place was Liverpool)
- 2006 - Internacional (2nd place was Barcelona)
- 2012 - Corinthians (2nd place was Chelsea)
After the Fifa layout since 2000, only a few teams of South American won against European teams and all of them are Brazilians
Santos with Neymar in 2011 only "watched" Barcelona, it was 4x0, distant from Santos from Libertadores who won with merits, with Neymar, Paulo Henrique Ganso and others, I want to credit que excelent year of the coach Muricy Ramalho.
It looks like Santos had so many players in young ages, and they are not experienced enough to control the anxiety and happiness to play the world cup against Barcelona
But don't forget Barcelona that year had Guardiola, V. Valdés, Piqué, D. Alves, Puyol, Iniesta, Messi and many others hahaha
In the recent years Flamengo and Palmeiras were the favorites to win again a world cup, but they didn't get
Well the Copa Libertadores is very good, the only thing is that sometimes I don't know for what reason when the intercontinental cup is going to be played the South American teams can't beat the UCL champion, I don't understand the reason, I only remember when Barcelona played against Neymar's Santos, that at that moment Santos surrendered very quickly, I did not see the magic that Neymar Jr had at that moment, I did not see all the strength that the entire team possessed, that if they had played with the same claw they had In the final the story would have been different.
This has been the case always,whatever team wins the Libertadores they almost never win the FIFA Club World Cup,the only teams who have been able to get as close as possible as of lately have been River Plate and Boca Juniors,these teams have put up a good fight against the European teams.I don't remember when was the last time a team from Libertadores won the FIFA Club World Cup.
In the rare case if some team from other countries except Brazil and Argentina wins the Libertadores they stand absolutely no chance to win the FIFA Club Worl Cup.
This thread is much needed as I don't follow much the Libertadores so I and many others can find the updates here.
I can answer you because the last south american who won Fifa World Cup is Corinthians, my team
In 2012 Corinthians won the match versus Chelsea in Japan
Look at the Chelsea team in 2012 (Petr Cech, Ivanovic, David Luiz, Cahill and Ashley Cole, Ramires, Frank Lampard, Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Victor Moses e Fernando Torres)
Detail, Corinthians won Libertadores 2012 without lose a match
But now it's a hard task to win against european teams, and in my opinion, Flamengo was the most close to win against Liverpool in 2019
Now we have the finals round of Libertadores
Athletico-PR x Libertad
Deportes Tolima x Flamengo
Fortaleza x Estudiantes
Corinthians x Boca Juniors
Emelec x Atlético-MG
Vélez Sarsfield x River Plate
Cerro Porteño x Palmeiras
Talleres x Colón
Source: https://www.conmebollibertadores.com/cards/NewsReaderWeb/tudo-definido-veja-os-confrontos-das-oitavas-e-cruzamentos-da-libertadores-2022
It looks like Palmeiras will get the Copa Libertadores title again for the third time in a row but unfortunately, the team that won the Copa Libertadores is not strong enough to fight the team that won the Champions League title in the FIFA Club World Cup. Indeed, in the past there were teams like Corinthians who had won the FIFA Club World Cup twice but after that, only the big European teams could dominate the FIFA Club World Cup title. But it's a bit interesting for this Copa Libertadores, because even a team that doesn't really dominate the local league title, they can do better in the Copa Libertadores. Yes, like Palmeiras, they are not even the strongest team in the local league in the last two seasons but in fact, Palmeiras can win two Copa Libertadores titles in a row.
This has been the case always,whatever team wins the Libertadores they almost never win the FIFA Club World Cup,the only teams who have been able to get as close as possible as of lately have been River Plate and Boca Juniors,these teams have put up a good fight against the European teams.I don't remember when was the last time a team from Libertadores won the FIFA Club World Cup.
In the rare case if some team from other countries except Brazil and Argentina wins the Libertadores they stand absolutely no chance to win the FIFA Club Worl Cup.
This thread is much needed as I don't follow much the Libertadores so I and many others can find the updates here.
Honestly it is a good thread, from all this we must recognize that the strongest teams are the Brazilians, mostly they are the ones that finish first in the Libertadores, my team here is Deportivo Táchira because it is from my region, in fact here the proximity to Colombia makes soccer the only passion for which we are such fanatics in my state, in addition to the fact that the final in the local tournament in Táchira with Caracas was on another level, I hope that my team can do a good job, but As I said before, the ones that have the best preparation for me, that are at another level, are the Brazilian teams.
There's only one (and the most important round
) left, almost all brazilian teams are in a good position right now, only America-MG is not classifying right now I agree with you, the most strongest teams are brazilians right now, specially Palmeiras, Flamengo and Atletico MG, but there's an important factor to consider all other countries, the home factor
I watched the last match of Corinthians vs Boca Juniors, and the argentinian team is not good as used to be, but it's hard to beat it on La Bombonera, and this can apllies to more teams, like you said for Deportivo Táchira for example, the fans are something else
Your team is on the Group of Palmeiras, and DT is doing a good job, almost classified
I think after the classify rounds people will start to look here more and we will watch some spectacular matches
I think this topic will take discussion until next October 2022, considering the Copa Libertadores football tournament organized by CONMEBOL, just entered the group stage, we have to predict again which team will qualify for the 16th, the quarter-finals, the semi-finals and the last one which is scheduled for 29 october 2022.
Considering the Copa Libertadores tournament consists of eight groups A to H, with a total of 32 football teams, who won the advance to the next round, I think the answer is for who wins and takes the Copa Libertadores trophy, for me of course I have to wait for who goes to the quarter-finals.
OP, if you can update the group stage in this thread, the teams that made it to the round of 16, to make it easier for those who want to make predictions and bet on Libertadores football.
Considering the Copa Libertadores tournament consists of eight groups A to H, with a total of 32 football teams, who won the advance to the next round, I think the answer is for who wins and takes the Copa Libertadores trophy, for me of course I have to wait for who goes to the quarter-finals.
OP, if you can update the group stage in this thread, the teams that made it to the round of 16, to make it easier for those who want to make predictions and bet on Libertadores football.
Now I know you're right hehehe, I think I'll make some improvements to this thread, but let's wait for the group stage ends
On May 27 Conmebol will do the raffle, I'l post here, but the thread will be forgotten for some time hehe, the finals will only start on June 29
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