Connection reset during post thread/reply causes entire post to be lost.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 28, 2022, 05:58:30 AM

This is something annoying I've been going through recently. If the network fails for whatever reason while you are submitting a post, that post is gone forever and the message fields are wiped empty when you hit the back or reload buttons. You briefly see the message but then the message fields are blanked moments later.

I get there's a preview button for saving drafts, but what exactly is causing the post content to get cleared when you hit the back button? JavaScript? This does not happen with forms on most other sites, JS or no JS.

It's very annoying because the first post is always better than the next one; I had this problem several times before finding a solution. If you were about to submit and your connection went down, do not REFRESH the page because it will be blanked out permanently. Instead restore your connection, click on the broken url and it will take you to the blank comment box, then press the BACKWARD button to restore your post. This is the little trick i use.

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I just experienced "almost" the same thing, but with a twist at the end... I didn't notice that prior to clicking the preview button, my VPN connection got interrupted, so I clicked the back button on my browser, and instead of facing a completely empty field, it showed the very first saved preview/draft of the thread ^{[it skipped a few drafts (quite strange)]}!
^{- Unlike OP, I'm using Chrome browser on Windows OS.}

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 29, 2022, 05:02:32 AM

Go to your Profile > Look and Layout Preferences > tick Don't warn on new replies made while posting.

Thank you for the guide which I forgot that it is available in Profile settings but it does not solve my issue which was misunderstood by you.

I meant that lately if I am composing my post and someone else makes their posts in the meantime, when I click on Post button, I will get that warning (that is very normal, it is here for years already) and I can not publish my post (that is something new and occurred recent weeks).

Not only me but FatFork confirmed it below too.

Quote from: FatFork on November 29, 2022, 06:47:48 AM

This happens a lot on Tor lately. I found it useful to have the bitcointalk site open in another tab at the same time, and use the "New Circuit" function there. That way, you won't lose the post edit/create content in the first tab when you return to it again.

Quote from: PowerGlove on November 28, 2022, 09:14:03 AM

I use Tor, too. Have you tried CTRL+SHIFT+L (i.e. "New Circuit for this Site") as a workaround?

Let me try it next times when I get that error. Does it solve that problem for you guys?

Quote from: LTU_btc on November 29, 2022, 03:53:28 PM

I'm here from 2015 and after being on Bitcointalk for 7 years, there is still things that I can learn. Had no idea that such option exists.

If you did not touch it for months or years, you would forget about its existence, just like me. Cheesy

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Quote from: Edwardard on November 29, 2022, 10:07:56 PM

Seems like only satoshi could do this (if they were alive Sad

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Really?! So there are a lot of open source applications in bitcoin ecosystem and you have found only Satoshi's work?!
OK, he/they was/were/is/are genius and the trust is maximum, but since realistically we won't see him/them again, let's look for options that are possible.

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Quote from: coupable on November 29, 2022, 04:39:40 PM

One of this is strange that some people face posting problems that others do not face using the same browser.

From how long are you using this browser?

Quote from: coupable on November 29, 2022, 04:39:40 PM

I don't think this has anything to do with browser settings.

I think (not 100% sure) it does since it compresses a lot of features to load things faster, although would love to get a clear technical explanation about this if anyone has.

Quote from: coupable on November 29, 2022, 04:39:40 PM

Frankly, I do not know how you can use the Opera browser, because the CAPTCHA code does not work during the login process.

You can, I already have a closed thread regarding this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5286295

Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 29, 2022, 01:32:27 PM

~~ nobody came forward with an open source idea.

Seems like only satoshi could do this (if they were alive Sad

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Quote from: coupable on November 29, 2022, 04:39:40 PM

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Frankly, I do not know how you can use the Opera browser, because the CAPTCHA code does not work during the login process. I remember that I used to use Opera Mini on the phone, but I don't remember any of these problems happening.

Thanks to theymos, you can bypass the CAPTCHA code request when logging in. Check here:
https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php

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Quote from: Edwardard on November 29, 2022, 04:24:00 AM

Quote from: coupable on November 28, 2022, 02:27:14 PM

I do not know which browser you are using and I have not heard of anyone facing a similar problem before,

I had faced the problem as OP mentioned while using opera mini browser on mobile with data saver enabled, likely a js/cookie issue?

One of this is strange that some people face posting problems that others do not face using the same browser. I don't think this has anything to do with browser settings.
Frankly, I do not know how you can use the Opera browser, because the CAPTCHA code does not work during the login process. I remember that I used to use Opera Mini on the phone, but I don't remember any of these problems happening.

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 29, 2022, 05:02:32 AM

Go to your Profile > Look and Layout Preferences > tick Don't warn on new replies made while posting.

I'm here from 2015 and after being on Bitcointalk for 7 years, there is still things that I can learn. Had no idea that such option exists.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on November 29, 2022, 07:05:49 AM

To adopt with it: I copy the text before clicking any action button (Post or Preview)

Probably not the most convenient solution, but okbif it helps. For me one very dumb thing related with this topic happened several times. I simply accidentally closed browser tab with my not published post. I didn't had saved draft, so, I had to make post from scratch. It's not big deal if it's few sentences, it's just annoying, but when it's long post, it hurts.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 29, 2022, 01:21:10 PM

I know... but I for one have no interest in harvesting user data, it's just that I got my hands tied at the moment with other stuff.

Even better, just open-source both of them. Then operations will be crystal clear. I (thankfully) don't need to buy any servers to run this, because they only talk to Bitcointalk servers.

Indeed, open source would be the best. However, from what I see, I think that most of those coming with ideas for bitcointalk app wanted to also get a few cents too from google ads, since nobody came forward with an open source idea.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 29, 2022, 12:08:24 PM

Quote from: NotATether on November 29, 2022, 12:01:35 PM

Makes me want to support the development of an unofficial iOS (and Android?) Bitcointalk app.

Actually it shouldn't be too hard anyway, you're not scraping any data. Just interacting with PHP endpoints that will probably never change within the next 50 years or so.

The problem is not the difficulty, it's the trust issue. Such an app could harvest sensitive data (starting with your password and continuing with the private messages), hence the few attempts for doing this were not really welcomed...
Plus, installing random apps onto the phone (possibly even directly from the apk in case of Android) is never a great idea.

I know... but I for one have no interest in harvesting user data, it's just that I got my hands tied at the moment with other stuff.

Even better, just open-source both of them. Then operations will be crystal clear. I (thankfully) don't need to buy any servers to run this, because they only talk to Bitcointalk servers.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 29, 2022, 12:01:35 PM

Makes me want to support the development of an unofficial iOS (and Android?) Bitcointalk app.

Actually it shouldn't be too hard anyway, you're not scraping any data. Just interacting with PHP endpoints that will probably never change within the next 50 years or so.

The problem is not the difficulty, it's the trust issue. Such an app could harvest sensitive data (starting with your password and continuing with the private messages), hence the few attempts for doing this were not really welcomed...
Plus, installing random apps onto the phone (possibly even directly from the apk in case of Android) is never a great idea.

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Quote from: PX-Z on November 28, 2022, 08:47:54 AM

Quote from: NotATether on November 28, 2022, 05:58:30 AM

what exactly is causing the post content to get cleared when you hit the back button?

It works fine for me though, either using the mouse backward or forward button^[1], the alt+right arrow key or alt+left arrow key, the same as using the back and forward key/button on browser, currently using firefox. All of them just retain post's content.

Maybe it's on the current browser you are using. If it's TOR, the post above really make sense.

I forgot to mention, this is on all browsers in iOS, so there's no cached data there Sad

Makes me want to support the development of an unofficial iOS (and Android?) Bitcointalk app.

Actually it shouldn't be too hard anyway, you're not scraping any data. Just interacting with PHP endpoints that will probably never change within the next 50 years or so.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 28, 2022, 05:58:30 AM

This is something annoying I've been going through recently.

You are lucky to face it recently LOL
I feel like it's a problem running for forever 😂

To adopt with it: I copy the text before clicking any action button (Post or Preview)

I have another weird problem too. When I login I do not see any image that was supposed to be loaded from the forum server. I only see the alt texts over the images. Then I need to find a topic with more than one full page of discussion which have the "All" link active. I click it, cloudflare reloads everything and then finally I see the regular interface of the forum.

Using TOR for the forum became too hard lately. Thanks to the page to avoid captcha code or a lot of us would leave the space for good LOL

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Quote from: PowerGlove on November 28, 2022, 09:14:03 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on November 28, 2022, 07:57:33 AM

[...] In these cases, I have to save my posts on my device, and log out, log in my account again, to pass through this issue. [...]

I use Tor, too. Have you tried CTRL+SHIFT+L (i.e. "New Circuit for this Site") as a workaround?

If you do that on page to create post/thread, don't forget it'll also erase everything you already write.

This happens a lot on Tor lately. I found it useful to have the bitcointalk site open in another tab at the same time, and use the "New Circuit" function there. That way, you won't lose the post edit/create content in the first tab when you return to it again.

Quote from: LoyceV on November 29, 2022, 05:02:32 AM

Mind blown! I never knew those two buttons on the left of my mouse do anything (and I never tried)!

I just can't fathom that you never hit those buttons by accident.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 28, 2022, 05:58:30 AM

You briefly see the message but then the message fields are blanked moments later.

This sounds like a browser thing. Most of the time, it works fine in my "normal" Firefox. Even after restartingt he browser, open tabs with unfinished posts are usually still okay (except for the rare moment when it's all gone).

Quote from: tranthidung on November 28, 2022, 07:57:33 AM

if you use Tor and some other posters make their posts while you are composing yours, when you hit a Post button, you will get error.

Go to your Profile > Look and Layout Preferences > tick Don't warn on new replies made while posting.

Quote from: PX-Z on November 28, 2022, 08:47:54 AM

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Mind blown! I never knew those two buttons on the left of my mouse do anything (and I never tried)!

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Quote from: coupable on November 28, 2022, 02:27:14 PM

I do not know which browser you are using and I have not heard of anyone facing a similar problem before,

I had faced the problem as OP mentioned while using opera mini browser on mobile with data saver enabled, likely a js/cookie issue?

Quote from: NotATether on November 28, 2022, 05:58:30 AM

~ but what exactly is causing the post content to get cleared when you hit the back button? JavaScript?

Think the browser doesnt handle js well. Would you like to mention your browser name and if any data saving mode is enabled? If yes try disabling it and use chrome and let us know if the problem is still there!

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I have been using the forum and all the features of publishing for years, and I do not remember that I was exposed to this situation previously. In the most extreme cases, when I press the back button, all the content is there. I use Chrome on the desktop and Mozilla sometimes, in addition to two similar browsers on the phone.
I do not know which browser you are using and I have not heard of anyone facing a similar problem before, but the best thing to do is to copy the post before trying to publish it or use the "preview" feature to automatically save it to draft.

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Yep. It's annoying, I've gotten into the habit of hitting CTRL+A, CTRL+C before I preview/post.

Quote from: tranthidung on November 28, 2022, 07:57:33 AM

[...] In these cases, I have to save my posts on my device, and log out, log in my account again, to pass through this issue. [...]

I use Tor, too. Have you tried CTRL+SHIFT+L (i.e. "New Circuit for this Site") as a workaround?

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Quote from: NotATether on November 28, 2022, 05:58:30 AM

I get there's a preview button for saving drafts, but what exactly is causing the post content to get cleared when you hit the back button? JavaScript? This does not happen with forms on most other sites, JS or no JS.

I don't know if this helps, but if I start a post, then click somewhere else (usually by mistake, no matter it's another topic or out-of-bitcointalk link), when I hit the back button my text is there, nothing is cleared.
So my first idea would be that maybe there's something on your local browser. I see PX-Z has the same conclusion.

Maybe you can try this with a fresh browser (either in VM, either a completely new browser than what you use on a daily basis). If it helps, I've tested this on both Chromium and Firefox.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 28, 2022, 05:58:30 AM

what exactly is causing the post content to get cleared when you hit the back button?

It works fine for me though, either using the mouse backward or forward button^[1], the alt+right arrow key or alt+left arrow key, the same as using the back and forward key/button on browser, currently using firefox. All of them just retain post's content.

Maybe it's on the current browser you are using. If it's TOR, the post above really make sense.

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