Conor McGregor vs Manny Pacquiao - page 11.

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It is true that Bob Arum the promoter of Manny Pacquiao < >

Wrong, Manny Pacquiao is not anymore under Bob Arum promotion, he has his own promotion so his camp will only decide if they will accept this challenge.

Good for him as for me! Arum wasn't really good one promoter!

Lol, Arum has guided a lot of boxers, his been in this industry even prior to most of us being born.

So I wouldn't say that Arum is not good promoter, he really is, him and Don King revolutionised how boxing is being promoted that's why you will hear now the term cash-cow of boxing because of them. Manny Pacquiao is under Al Haymon now though of PBC.

Indeed. The boxing scene received lots of attentions and money flowing because of this man, whatever we think he is the contribution he brings to this sport will be remembered by the the people who are inside this field. There's always someone behind a legend success and even there's something bad out from arum's management we can't remove the fact that Pacquiao was been known because of his help.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 10:15:55 PM

Conor needs to be reminded that those boxers he is asking to face him took years, even decades, to come up with those forms and abilities. He cannot just jump fences and be immediately in their similar forms.

Its all about money, I will not be surprise if connor place a bet of manny on their own fight. One thing is for sure connor will experience his greatest defeat if he decided to fight toe to toe again manny. His only chance to finish all 12 rounds if he run and duck during the match

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The only reason why I want this fight to happen is that I want to see Conor schooled once again inside the boxing ring. I want him to face an opponent strong enough to bring him into the realization that he doesn't have the boxing skills of these pro boxers. If he'll be KOed, the better. Pacquiao or Crawford could bring him that realization hopefully. And this will also make the fans realize the limits of their fighter.

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers. Look how he gassed out on the later rounds causing his punches to lost power. If he (Connor) could boost his stamina to stand in the ring with consistent punching power, then I can say he's got a mad combat skills.
Manny, on the other hand was a beast standing 12 rounds while his punching power gradually become stronger in every rounds.

Conor needs to be reminded that those boxers he is asking to face him took years, even decades, to come up with those forms and abilities. He cannot just jump fences and be immediately in their similar forms.

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I know that the Pacman spoke about not wanting to have any exhibition fights, but we will see, when there huge money in the line, maybe he will change his mind.

Money can change his decision and this fight is already guaranteed with a huge price for both.
Both boxers are still hot, they are coming from an impressive wins so sure fans would still want to see them, this could probably be bigger than the last exhibition fight of Conor so he is pushing it, this kind of situation is good since Manny is not hard to convince.

soon Manny's decision will make the people who are waiting this to be realize happy.

I don't think it would be quite classified as an exhibition fight anyway. Conor McGregor is a pro boxer (albeit with a 0/1) record, but is practically at the top of his game in the UFC.

If you had both a kickboxer and a MMA fighter, both at the top of their game in the UFC, nobody would treat it as an exhibition. Though I do understand it's not quite the same going into boxing.

With that said, if Manny doesn't put up his titles in the fight, people won't give the fight the credit it's due, and it practically will be an exhibition.

Shouldn't be any risk in putting up the titles either, since everybody knows McGregor is gonna get whomped.

kick boxing is too far from regular boxing mate,because Kickboxer is working together with the opportunity to hit using Legs and Feet while Boxers only uses hands and arms.meaning their style in the ring are very different and we cannot compare both of them that is why this can be called exhibition fight knowing that Manny Pacquiao is a pure boxer and no other discipline in sports(of course basketball is one of his hobby)

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 28, 2020, 05:14:56 PM

I know that the Pacman spoke about not wanting to have any exhibition fights, but we will see, when there huge money in the line, maybe he will change his mind.

Money can change his decision and this fight is already guaranteed with a huge price for both.
Both boxers are still hot, they are coming from an impressive wins so sure fans would still want to see them, this could probably be bigger than the last exhibition fight of Conor so he is pushing it, this kind of situation is good since Manny is not hard to convince.

soon Manny's decision will make the people who are waiting this to be realize happy.

I don't think it would be quite classified as an exhibition fight anyway. Conor McGregor is a pro boxer (albeit with a 0/1) record, but is practically at the top of his game in the UFC.

If you had both a kickboxer and a MMA fighter, both at the top of their game in the UFC, nobody would treat it as an exhibition. Though I do understand it's not quite the same going into boxing.

With that said, if Manny doesn't put up his titles in the fight, people won't give the fight the credit it's due, and it practically will be an exhibition.

Shouldn't be any risk in putting up the titles either, since everybody knows McGregor is gonna get whomped.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 28, 2020, 05:14:56 PM

I know that the Pacman spoke about not wanting to have any exhibition fights, but we will see, when there huge money in the line, maybe he will change his mind.

Money can change his decision and this fight is already guaranteed with a huge price for both.
Both boxers are still hot, they are coming from an impressive wins so sure fans would still want to see them, this could probably be bigger than the last exhibition fight of Conor so he is pushing it, this kind of situation is good since Manny is not hard to convince.

soon Manny's decision will make the people who are waiting this to be realize happy.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 28, 2020, 07:43:42 AM

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Every fight will be different, in a normal situation Conor McGregor would not be allowed to debut against one of the elite boxers ever in history and he did simply because of his drawing power and skills as a good counter puncher and so was the reason the interesting element was whether a retired Mayweather could still handle a young hard puncher and we saw Floyd did what he did throughout his career take the fight deep and he knocked him out because the conditioning issues of McGregor is well known and Floyd played the safe game as always but Manny is an aggressive fighter and it will be an entirely different fight .

That's what I like him in the early rounds because he's a good counter puncher and can dance with Floyd and I thought he'd really deserves to fight elite boxers. Not until the later rounds that he literally and obviously ran out gas. I thought he was ready, but no, I bet he didn't had expected that outcome.
Anyway, as far as the speculations about this circulating in the internet is concerned, It seems that this fight is still far from happening?

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Quote from: kotajikikox on January 27, 2020, 09:25:52 PM

i think this thread is enough and should be locked because Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor will never face each other in boxing ring.

not unless exhibition games only so there might be some other decision to make from Manny's side because if serious fight Pacquiao will never face this inside the ring as he may come comedian

Well we can said that as well to Mayweather-Conor thread before. Lots of arguments back then that the fight will not happen, but at the end of the end of the day, and to everyone surprised, the fight was made and we all know what how everything ended up.

I know that the Pacman spoke about not wanting to have any exhibition fights, but we will see, when there huge money in the line, maybe he will change his mind.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on January 27, 2020, 09:25:52 PM

i think this thread is enough and should be locked because Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor will never face each other in boxing ring.

not unless exhibition games only so there might be some other decision to make from Manny's side because if serious fight Pacquiao will never face this inside the ring as he may come comedian

There's still a chance but it will take a lot of time. Just like the last match of Pacquiao with Thurman, the guy knows how to market the match and this what shall be done by Conor if the agreement is settled and this fight will continue.

This sure will be an exhibition match but probably a higher bit than that. Transition from MMA to pure boxing, we have seen how Conor performed against Floyd and we know that Floyd and Pacquiao are both the greatest boxers of this time. Maybe Conor's trying to prove something or he just know how to market himself.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 28, 2020, 07:09:11 AM

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers.

Maybe it's us the fans should learn that an MMA fighter can't win against a legendary boxers, and now he is trying to convince Pacman to fight just for money, I am sure Conor have learn in the first fight but he is willing to make mistakes again, just for the same big price he enjoyed in their fight with Mayweather.

Fans will always complain after the fight when they feel they don't get the value of their money, but they usually easily get hype also.
When I think of Mayweather, the word that comes in my mind is "boring", but this is not him against Conor part 2, so it should not be a boring fight.

I like to see how this cocky MMA fighter try hard against Manny, I hope he can still stand if he is hit by Manny's straight left hand.

Basing on punch power then Pacquiao had much more compared to Mayweather and i would like to see on how he would deal or bear with that.
Seeing these kind of fights are boring but when people do gets hype then they do consider it out since it would be entertaining on how a mma fighter
would be beaten down by a boxer.Practically, if there were lines to be offered on this one then for sure 100% sold on Pacquiaos side.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 28, 2020, 07:47:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on January 28, 2020, 07:09:11 AM

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers.

Maybe it's us the fans should learn that an MMA fighter can't win against a legendary boxers, and now he is trying to convince Pacman to fight just for money, I am sure Conor have learn in the first fight but he is willing to make mistakes again, just for the same big price he enjoyed in their fight with Mayweather.

He really love the attentions that he's getting plus the big bucks that surround this business, if fans agree to this by showing interest it will be easy
for both part to discuss the possible shared to receive after the fight was ended. McGregor have a big chance to win if they will fight with MMA rules
but in terms of boxing rules he only got slim chances to win against the legendary PacMan.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 28, 2020, 07:47:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on January 28, 2020, 07:09:11 AM

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers.

Maybe it's us the fans should learn that an MMA fighter can't win against a legendary boxers, and now he is trying to convince Pacman to fight just for money, I am sure Conor have learn in the first fight but he is willing to make mistakes again, just for the same big price he enjoyed in their fight with Mayweather.

Of course we know that a MMA fighter can't win against a boxer, not unless the MMA fighter has a good stand up skills with the level of Conor and fight some B-side boxer, but it won't happen because we all know that he won't simply fight someone. He is looking for big money fights like Mayweather prior and then Pacquiao next.

So it's really up to Manny to accept the challenge or not. Manny will be different though, he is aggressive even at his age so I don't know if Conor can last at least 6-10 rounds with Pacquiao and not getting knock out.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 28, 2020, 07:47:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on January 28, 2020, 07:09:11 AM

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers.

Maybe it's us the fans should learn that an MMA fighter can't win against a legendary boxers, and now he is trying to convince Pacman to fight just for money, I am sure Conor have learn in the first fight but he is willing to make mistakes again, just for the same big price he enjoyed in their fight with Mayweather.

Fans will always complain after the fight when they feel they don't get the value of their money, but they usually easily get hype also.
When I think of Mayweather, the word that comes in my mind is "boring", but this is not him against Conor part 2, so it should not be a boring fight.

I like to see how this cocky MMA fighter try hard against Manny, I hope he can still stand if he is hit by Manny's straight left hand.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 28, 2020, 07:09:11 AM

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers.

Maybe it's us the fans should learn that an MMA fighter can't win against a legendary boxers, and now he is trying to convince Pacman to fight just for money, I am sure Conor have learn in the first fight but he is willing to make mistakes again, just for the same big price he enjoyed in their fight with Mayweather.

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@Oasisman
Every fight will be different, in a normal situation Conor McGregor would not be allowed to debut against one of the elite boxers ever in history and he did simply because of his drawing power and skills as a good counter puncher and so was the reason the interesting element was whether a retired Mayweather could still handle a young hard puncher and we saw Floyd did what he did throughout his career take the fight deep and he knocked him out because the conditioning issues of McGregor is well known and Floyd played the safe game as always but Manny is an aggressive fighter and it will be an entirely different fight .

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 03:34:43 AM

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 12:26:23 AM

Manny has loosened a bit in terms of speed and punch volumes and even strength but still has got it.

That's because he is already aging, but in his last fight he beat a young and undefeated fighter.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 12:26:23 AM

Conor can take punches but that is the downside of it all. He'll end up with bruises and swelling and cuts with this match unlike his previous one with Mayweather. If this funny fight turns into a reality, he better be knocked out.

I don't know if he can take punches from Pacman, he hasn't knock out an opponent lately and I would be happy to witness it in this fight.
Manny should win easy.

The only reason why I want this fight to happen is that I want to see Conor schooled once again inside the boxing ring. I want him to face an opponent strong enough to bring him into the realization that he doesn't have the boxing skills of these pro boxers. If he'll be KOed, the better. Pacquiao or Crawford could bring him that realization hopefully. And this will also make the fans realize the limits of their fighter.

He'd be learning a good lesson once Manny beat him with several punches which will change his entire world. I am eager to witness their fight on the ring, but don't when will be the exact date to commence for a schedule since there was no official statements coming from their promotion. I guess the negotiation was still on process, so let's wait for any further updates.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 28, 2020, 07:09:11 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 03:34:43 AM

The only reason why I want this fight to happen is that I want to see Conor schooled once again inside the boxing ring. I want him to face an opponent strong enough to bring him into the realization that he doesn't have the boxing skills of these pro boxers. If he'll be KOed, the better. Pacquiao or Crawford could bring him that realization hopefully. And this will also make the fans realize the limits of their fighter.

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers. Look how he gassed out on the later rounds causing his punches to lost power. If he (Connor) could boost his stamina to stand in the ring with consistent punching power, then I can say he's got a mad combat skills.
Manny, on the other hand was a beast standing 12 rounds while his punching power gradually become stronger in every rounds.

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This the difference between an MMA fighter and a Boxer when it comes to stamina where they do really differ but if a boxer would
fight on a MMA arena then for sure he wont still have an assurance to win yet we know that all limbs are being used on a MMA fight.
So this thing is also applicable on both sides on what would be the rules either mma or boxing rules would really have its own advantage.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 03:34:43 AM

The only reason why I want this fight to happen is that I want to see Conor schooled once again inside the boxing ring. I want him to face an opponent strong enough to bring him into the realization that he doesn't have the boxing skills of these pro boxers. If he'll be KOed, the better. Pacquiao or Crawford could bring him that realization hopefully. And this will also make the fans realize the limits of their fighter.

Conor should've learned from that fight with Floyd, that he doesn't fit the standard to fight top ranked boxers. Look how he gassed out on the later rounds causing his punches to lost power. If he (Connor) could boost his stamina to stand in the ring with consistent punching power, then I can say he's got a mad combat skills.
Manny, on the other hand was a beast standing 12 rounds while his punching power gradually become stronger in every rounds.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 28, 2020, 12:30:30 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 12:26:23 AM

Manny has loosened a bit in terms of speed and punch volumes and even strength but still has got it.

That's because he is already aging, but in his last fight he beat a young and undefeated fighter.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 28, 2020, 12:26:23 AM

Conor can take punches but that is the downside of it all. He'll end up with bruises and swelling and cuts with this match unlike his previous one with Mayweather. If this funny fight turns into a reality, he better be knocked out.

I don't know if he can take punches from Pacman, he hasn't knock out an opponent lately and I would be happy to witness it in this fight.
Manny should win easy.

The only reason why I want this fight to happen is that I want to see Conor schooled once again inside the boxing ring. I want him to face an opponent strong enough to bring him into the realization that he doesn't have the boxing skills of these pro boxers. If he'll be KOed, the better. Pacquiao or Crawford could bring him that realization hopefully. And this will also make the fans realize the limits of their fighter.

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Being a Senator is still Manny's priority, so we will have to wait and see.

Exactly, he needs to focus on his job now because he might run for President soon, who knows, he all have the money to do that.
And if he will take the fight against Conor, that would be an additional for his funds in case he really plan to run in a higher position in the future.

Right, to be honest I think that Manny Pacquaio is really doing good as Senator of the Philippines so I won't be surprised that people are going to clamour for him to run for a higher position - the Presidency.

Well for sure the Conor fight will bring him more money and all that stuff and yeah, running for a President needs a lot of funds and you really need to have a deep pocket. So the possibility of him and Conor facing each other are great, its just a matter of schedule I guess.

Manny is not as smart as we think but him running for president using his own money will make the country Philippines a good country.
Why did I say that? simple, because he has no one who can control him, other politics need financiers so when they win, they will have to serve the interest of their financiers instead of the interest of the people.

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