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August 10, 2024, 05:24:43 PM
#42
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?
It may not actually be greed; it is just his own betting technique that has most likely worked for them before. I know a specific sport's better who has a method of eliminating some of the options from his original bet choices and replaying the other previously played games again, and it can go on until he wins.

To me, this is a case of the predictor being unlucky.
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August 10, 2024, 05:17:54 PM
#41
Something happened earlier yesterday in my area and I would like to share it here so we can discuss about it to see if something similar to this has happened to anyone here.
Earlier yesterday a dude won 15 million naira on sport bet from a betting shop closer to my area.
How it happened was that the dudes friend gave him a betting code on sport games and the potential winning amount is 15 million naira and the dude played it according without removing or adding any other games.
But what surprised me was that the guy that predicted the game would have played the game exactly how he predicted it but he added some more games and he lost his while his friend won his own (to increase the potential winning amount).
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?
Nah, he just lost. There's no "quitting in right time", other than in hindsight. Everything is about luck and just the fact that he won 15 million was because he risked enough. That's greed too you know, and greed sometimes get rewarded. But there's no huge wins on risking less or quitting in right time. Because right time and right bets only exist in hindsight.

We just like to think the winnings were somehow in our own choices and that we were in control, because admitting that it was pure change and luck gets our control away. Only thing we can and should control is our daily / weekly / monthly gambling budget, but controlling that doesn't bring as wins, it just makes sure we don't lose everything.
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August 10, 2024, 05:09:38 PM
#40
Greed comes in two ways, increasing the number of games and adding extra funds to win big. Both can diminish the chances of winning, but the first mentioned affects winning a lot. I saw responses that didn't accept the gambler's added games as a greedy move. What could it have been? He wanted more, that was why he lost it all. Preferably, adding extra funds to a limited number of games subsequently helps a gamer to win his predictions like the other player.
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August 10, 2024, 04:53:02 PM
#39
Reason why I called this act of greed is because the friend of the guy that won the bet (the predictor of the game), he wasn't comfortable with the potential amount he saw on the ticket (15 M), that was why he added other games to increase the potential winning amount. If wasn't for greed he would have staked the bet the exact way he gave his friend. Parallel bets are the most risky type of bets on sport betting because the more the predictor is adding games also the more risky the games become.
You wouldn't be wrong at all for calling the single action of that guy in question as greed. He forgets one of the most important feature of gambling, which is the fact that gambling is absolutely unpredictable, especially when it has to do with sports betting or other related games. Even if he wasn't comfortable with the current amount in the bet, what he should've done instead was to first stake the game in a single slip, then maybe edit the game to his satisfaction and then stake it on a totally different slip, just incase one of the games goes unexpectedly. Now he ended up losing everything which he could've just simply avoided if he had just obeyed his instincts.
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August 10, 2024, 04:49:13 PM
#38
Reason why I called this act of greed is because the friend of the guy that won the bet (the predictor of the game), he wasn't comfortable with the potential amount he saw on the ticket (15 M), that was why he added other games to increase the potential winning amount. If wasn't for greed he would have staked the bet the exact way he gave his friend. Parallel bets are the most risky type of bets on sport betting because the more the predictor is adding games also the more risky the games become.
Partly greed and partly the result of making a wrong decision. He prepared and later on edited the slip because he felt the need to and also spotted the need to add more fixtures, now imagine if he had won with those added games on the slip and did win a bigger amount compared to his friend, then the other friend might aswell feel back lashed as to why he wasn't given those one's added. It's a whole lot of circumstances, definitely he will long lasting regret ever making that decision.
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August 10, 2024, 04:37:02 PM
#37

I definitely have never given any one any sports game code to play, let alone losing while the person I shared the game code with wins, but I sure have been somewhere where I witnessed this same scenario happen before my very eyes, and if I still remember well, I've shared the story a couple of times on this forum.
I scenario played out between me and a casino worker recently, I was discussing with him about sport bet and how risky it is to win them, and only then he opened up to me that he works at ground casinos, the only physical casino house known to us in this part of the world, and he said that in the coming champions league and premier league, he will be givinge some games code, that their are sure predictions.

The question that I asked him and he was unable to answer is that, are those that predict the game going to decide the winner, just like your in house games at the casino, uptil now he was not able to answer, only then I told him that there is not sure game any where, so I don't share my betting codes neither do I accept code to bet on from others.

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The only difference with this from mine is that, this one deals with sports betting, while that which I've seen happen was based on lotto, often called "baba ijebu" here in Nigeria, a forecaster gave his friend some set of numbers to play, while the forcaster himself played an entirely different set of numbers himself.
At the end of the day, out of the five set of numbers the forcaster gave his friend, 3 numbers came out(played), while all the numbers the forcaster played himself, non came out(played).

The show was a shameful one to behold actually, the forcaster was so mad that he even slapped his girlfriend in public who was trying to console him, he was later suspended from work for a week or so.
Such a bad experience, any ways the ops did not mentioned what the reaction of the forecaster of this games was, so since the thread did not cover that aspect of the story we may not be able to know what exactly the former did to the later or if the winner decide to gift him some money out of his winning, but regardless of what happens, all that I can say is that, the winner was just so lucky and this can happen to anyone regardless of how long they have being gambling because at some point, only luck will separate the winner from the loser in a bet.
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August 10, 2024, 04:32:55 PM
#36
I can not call it greed if he is able to afford to lose the money that he used to stake the bet. If his friend have not won, he may not even think of the bet at all. But he might not like the situation as his friend won but he did not win. He will not like the situation not because his friend won, but because he lost and he gave his friend what to select to bet with.
Exactly, I do not sense any greed. I feel that calling it greed is jumping into conclusions because there is no context from the other person as to why he added more games. Greed in sports betting an example is when the individual wins and despite this continues to bet even bigger bets in the hopes that they will win more money. That is greed. I'm this case, No
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August 10, 2024, 04:16:50 PM
#35
I think it is very simple to say that it means he is out of luck while his friend is in a lucky situation at that time, it is a natural situation in betting. For the greed issue I think it depends, or I mean if he did add some options to add to the game before knowing his friend won then maybe it can be called greed by betting in large amounts, but if he did add some other options when he already knew the results of his friend's victory then I think the situation of not being able to accept the fact that his friend was much luckier is something that affects him in the sense that it drives him to bet again in the hope of getting a victory like his friend.

Gambling is full of uncertainty, meaning you will never know that the booking code you gave to someone else turned out to be the right choice to produce a victory, so just accept whatever the result. The conclusion is, bet enough and never try to chase victory just because you see other people are luckier.
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August 10, 2024, 04:12:38 PM
#34
Something happened earlier yesterday in my area and I would like to share it here so we can discuss about it to see if something similar to this has happened to anyone here.
Earlier yesterday a dude won 15 million naira on sport bet from a betting shop closer to my area.
How it happened was that the dudes friend gave him a betting code on sport games and the potential winning amount is 15 million naira and the dude played it according without removing or adding any other games.
But what surprised me was that the guy that predicted the game would have played the game exactly how he predicted it but he added some more games and he lost his while his friend won his own (to increase the potential winning amount).
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?
I definitely have never given any one any sports game code to play, let alone losing while the person I shared the game code with wins, but I sure have been somewhere where I witnessed this same scenario happen before my very eyes, and if I still remember well, I've shared the story a couple of times on this forum.

The only difference with this from mine is that, this one deals with sports betting, while that which I've seen happen was based on lotto, often called "baba ijebu" here in Nigeria, a forecaster gave his friend some set of numbers to play, while the forcaster himself played an entirely different set of numbers himself.
At the end of the day, out of the five set of numbers the forcaster gave his friend, 3 numbers came out(played), while all the numbers the forcaster played himself, non came out(played).

The show was a shameful one to behold actually, the forcaster was so mad that he even slapped his girlfriend in public who was trying to console him, he was later suspended from work for a week or so.
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August 10, 2024, 03:57:55 PM
#33
I don't understand what you mean exactly. It was a bonus code or the match was fixed? Because he couldn't know and nobody could know if the outcome will win or not otherwise. So it wasn't greed, I would say, he just wanted to add a bit risk in order to try to get higher winnings, it's just some bank roll managing personal strategies I would say.
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August 10, 2024, 03:50:04 PM
#32
I can not call it greed if he is able to afford to lose the money that he used to stake the bet. If his friend have not won, he may not even think of the bet at all. But he might not like the situation as his friend won but he did not win. He will not like the situation not because his friend won, but because he lost and he gave his friend what to select to bet with.
Not greed at all, I think the friend will be use to that already if he is a regular gambler because, for him to have made such a right games selections that give such a winning he should be somewhat used to gambling, and also excited to see that he predict the game that change his friends life at the same time.

Also I am sure that, the winner is going to share the joy in winning the bounty with him a y ways because he is the genesis of the whole winning.
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August 10, 2024, 02:17:16 PM
#31
Gambling is gambling.  People get lucky, people lose.  Blaming greed for someone's decision to add more games to a bet is a bit dramatic.  If they wanted to share the winnings, they would have. Its their money, their risk.  Everyone wants to win big, but the reality is, most people dont.  This isnt some moral dilemma, its just how betting works.
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August 10, 2024, 01:57:07 PM
#30
Something happened earlier yesterday in my area and I would like to share it here so we can discuss about it to see if something similar to this has happened to anyone here.
Earlier yesterday a dude won 15 million naira on sport bet from a betting shop closer to my area.
How it happened was that the dudes friend gave him a betting code on sport games and the potential winning amount is 15 million naira and the dude played it according without removing or adding any other games.
But what surprised me was that the guy that predicted the game would have played the game exactly how he predicted it but he added some more games and he lost his while his friend won his own (to increase the potential winning amount).
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?
Without greed, many major problems faced by gamblers will be solved. I think greed should be the first thing a gambler ought to tackle if he wants to enjoy gambling. This case is a good example of what greed can do to a person. Imagine the amount involved, yet he was not satisfied probably because he set a target that is not realistic.

This is also what luck can do in gambling because it is luck that made the friend to play the game just the way their were predicted by the person and he won whereas the person that predicted the game made adjustments and lost. I thing it is now obvious that luck is important for a gambler even though skill and knowledge is a great asset.
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August 10, 2024, 01:49:24 PM
#29
The result of greed is never good but the result of greed ends in a terrible bad situation.  Today you are only talking about the evolution of greed in gambling but in every aspect of life greed will take you through hard times. One should never be greedy when it comes to gambling which is mentioned in this topic because of excessive greed he is about to lose a large amount of money. Had he not been greedy and followed his friend's path, he would have got 15 million Nigerian dollars, but his over greed and over confidence in what he understood cost him big losses today.
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August 10, 2024, 01:42:46 PM
#28
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?

Not just greed, he probably had high hopes on those new games more than the previous ones he selected and that might have been the reason why he went back to add them.

I don’t think I’ve don’t something like this - there are times when after selecting some games I look around and still see some games that I feel are good but still I don’t add them not because I’m scared of losing everything but because I don’t have the time to watch for more games to be played before I’ll see the result of my bet - that’s why I don’t add them.
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August 10, 2024, 01:29:31 PM
#27
We all know that, gambling is a game of luck and no one is certain of thr outcome of a game until after the game and adding more games isn't a bad option  and if the game won, it wouldn't have been a same situation talk now but nevertheless,  we still have to blame the predictor of the game and I hope this serves as a lesson to every other person so as not to be greedy while picking games.

When reading the post, I thought maybe the predictor of the game wanted the winner share the winnings with him.litdide his will but sine the reverse is the case, I thi k the right thing to do is fir the winner to show some appreciation  to the predictor si ce he lost
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August 10, 2024, 01:15:33 PM
#26
Reason why I called this act of greed is because the friend of the guy that won the bet (the predictor of the game), he wasn't comfortable with the potential amount he saw on the ticket (15 M), that was why he added other games to increase the potential winning amount. If wasn't for greed he would have staked the bet the exact way he gave his friend. Parallel bets are the most risky type of bets on sport betting because the more the predictor is adding games also the more risky the games become.
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August 10, 2024, 01:11:51 PM
#25
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?
What the guy did was not something of greed in my own point of view. The guy who predicted the game just did what he did for the other games that the other guy played; he did the same prediction and added more games based on how he felt like they were going to play, but it was quite unfortunate that the game did not play as he predicted and the other guy was lucky enough to just play the first lucky predicted games. I don't consider that greed but just luck.
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August 10, 2024, 12:41:52 PM
#24
Something happened earlier yesterday in my area and I would like to share it here so we can discuss about it to see if something similar to this has happened to anyone here.
Earlier yesterday a dude won 15 million naira on sport bet from a betting shop closer to my area.
How it happened was that the dudes friend gave him a betting code on sport games and the potential winning amount is 15 million naira and the dude played it according without removing or adding any other games.
But what surprised me was that the guy that predicted the game would have played the game exactly how he predicted it but he added some more games and he lost his while his friend won his own (to increase the potential winning amount).
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?

I don't see that as a greed though, he was only trying to accumulate more odds to increase his potential your which is normal thing you see most sport gamblers do. I just think the guy who was given the code and won was fortunate and lucky as we do say it and the main guy that share the code wasn't fortunate to win but if he can give a game to someone and was able to win ₦15M, there is possibility of him recreating such games again with time.

The source of that bet could have played his own in differeny part to avoid this type of mistakes, he would have won something from there and get some money even if it's not ₦15M pay, he would have won something playing the game in parts and perhaps he would have even won it if he had played it with reasonable amount of money he can afford t lose.
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August 10, 2024, 12:28:45 PM
#23
So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?
It's so sad to hear that the original predictor of the game lost, while the friend who he gave the betting code won, as what I feel might have caused this is not just only greed, but Over-confidence, as it's likely that he could have been Over-confidence that the other games he was adding will also play as predicted, not knowing those wee the games to prevent him from winning. I have been in this shoe several times, and I know how it feels to lose while the person you gave a betting code to win, and on that note, I would have love to know what happened next. So I will love to ask, was the original predictor who lost his bet given anything by his friend who owns #15million Naira? Or his friend who won the #15million just went away without giving him a penny, because if I was to be the guy who won the #15million, I would have appreciated his efforts with the least #3million Naira as my way of saying thank you.
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