Topic: Conspiracy Theory and ASICs (Read 4218 times)

Is this true/why do you think(know?) this?

On topic: .gov isn't anywhere near as intelligent as you seem to think it is. I doubt anyone in a significantly powerful position even understands bitcoin (if they've heard of it) enough to know the 51% attack thing, what it means or how it works. Bitcoin would have to have a far greater number of users before "they" start paying attention. Great success is more dangerous than vulnerability.

Faggots are delicious and have no need for fruitcake.

The UK though is already everything Orwell feared it would become.

well fagots are always first to eats other people fruitcaakes
once they know

look out for  atms  cash for btc
btc for cash 1% fee

game on popos:)

Despite being moderately ridiculed for my conspiracy theory, it's nice to see somebody else articulate this concern. I think he does a better job of laying out than me.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17gqw0/the_price_of_a_51_attack/

AMD released and ships their products on time.  Btw AMD bought ATI and stopped calling it that a long time ago, lol.

The UK already aggressively shuts down bank accounts that have anything to do with bitcoin.  I think we are counting down to when this happens in other countries too.

+1 for the Rolling Stone link.

If I were an evil megabank, I would suffocate bitcoin:

1. Shut off the fiat currency to the exchanges
How valuable would BTC1 be if you couldn't sell it for euros, USD, or Yen? For an evil megabank, shutting them all down at the same time would be a breeze. The exchanges are a single point of failure and there aren't so many of them that you couldn't coordinate a raid on them all at once on some trumped-up charge like money laundering, drug trafficking, etc.

Even if the exchanges have a "whack-a-mole" strategy, by using the existing anti-fraud processes built into fiat, the evil megabank could easily find them and kill them.

2. Shut off the fiat currency to the manufacturers
By manufacturers I mean companies who make the stuff that makes bitcoin viable. For example, shut down all ASIC manufacturing, the big FPGA sites, the Casascius coins – anyone who helps bitcoin but takes payment in fiat is vulnerable to an attack the same way the exchanges are vulnerable.

3. Buy out or arrest silk road plus the top ten other bitcoin destinations
The evil megabank doesn't have to kill every merchant who accepts bitcoin. If they took out the "top ten list," then bitcoin would be relatively worthless because the average person wouldn't be able to find anything they wanted to buy with it.

4. Astroturf up a storm
Bitcoin needs the goodwill of the internet and if it was already getting tons of bad press from the above attacks, it would be easy to piggy-back an astroturfing campaign on that to convince everyone "bitcoin is dead," "I lost all my money," "the feds raided my house and took all my computers," etc.

Oh yeah, and shut down the popular forums, like this one, by seizing the domain.

Bitcoin would not disappear, but it would be in a world of hurt

If some entity wanted to take over the bitcoin network, it wouldn't make any sense for them to kill it.

If bitcoin got to a point where it was really considered a threat, it would be trivial for a government or a bank to purchase enough mining resources to execute a 51% attack.  Consider the "slap-on-the-wrist" fine of $1.9 BILLION that was recently given to HSBC for drug money laundering - an amount that they were clearing every 5 WEEKS.  That should put things in perspective as to how simple it would be for any powerful entity to purchase a massive mining cluster and completely own the network.  http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213

Once in control, they could easily mandate transaction fees as a "bitcoin tax".  If I was a powerful government or bank I'd be very happy have a way to take a cut of all transactions, and I would expect that the majority of bitcoin users would have little choice but to begrudgingly go along with it.  It would be everyone's best interest (financially) to do so because paying a tax to use bitcoin would be better than bitcoins becoming useless/worthless.

Net-net it wouldn't be that bad aside from crushing our egalitarian pipe-dreams.  

lol agreed, thanks for improving my day, that was funny.

the crazy's need a home just like everybody else...

+1 We need a conspiracy forum

None. Except, when ASICs will be freely available for everyone, we will no longer be defenseless against an attacker with deep pockets; at least not for this specific kind of attack.

Change "ASIC" for "GPU" and "BLF" for "ATI" ... What is the difference?.

The lack of a conspiracy theory forum is due to a conspiracy of the mods to cover up conspiracies.

That's it! I'm out!

You guys have it all wrong...

BitCoin was started as a CIA experiment to get Al-Cadia and other drugs merchants trapped, in there hidden code it  tracks everybody via IP and Telco-GEO-Locational navigation systems. These techs hook into all forms of social media and transfer there intelligence via the hidden 1024 block header byte part of and smtp email IP packet

We are all just pawns in their evil experiment

"THE BIG CASH OUT" as I like to call it is when the CIA will call in all the coins. WHy do u think they have a system that displays all transactions

Its Like OMG people ...So the idea the government shutting it down when it was started by the government !!!!

...lol

There really aren't that many conspiracy threads created that would warrant such a section IMO plus I'd hate to see creating such a section actually promote more stupidity like that.

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Well, another point is, if you have enough to buy a lot of ASIC systems at retail price, that means you have enough money to produce them. It's not immensely expensive really, we did it as pseudonymous strangers registered on a forum with ASICMINER. Also, this way you could do it covertly, which would considerably increase the attack's effectiveness.

However that's not how State works at all. If it did, we didn't have hidden services, or even the Internet as it is. A lot of revolutionary things happened in recent centuries which could at the time may have been perceived as a threat to the State but then turned out to be as efficient to empower it. Bitcoin might very well be one of those things, or it might not be. Neither us nor the State knows how things will turn out. Furthermore, the State isn't a conspiracy of individuals, it has a mind of its own, and no one knows what it is thinking until it acts.

its not a government threat, much like travellers cheques are not a threat to the Mint

the Romney tax scandal was doomed to be a non starter. asking for $1mil in bitcoins.. bitinstant wont even accept more then $10,000 a year let alone allow a $1mill one off payment.

and how else was romney going to get his hands on $1mill of bitcoins in the time period given?

if you want a conspiracy theory.. then here is one. the bitcoin dollar market cap.. you actually think that there is $150mill of fiat floating around in mtgox/bitinstants/bitpay bank accounts to guarantee the value?

imagine if there was only $1mill and everyone receiving a prepaid debit card cashed out in one go...

imagine the consequence