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Topic: Convince me that bounties paying in anything other than Bitcoin are worth it - page 2. (Read 958 times)

full member
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I dont think ht bounties are profitable
I am not agreeing with you because some bounties are still profitable such as United Crowd. In 9 weeks signature campaign a "Full member" received $1800 +. Don't you think it's profitable?
member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 21
Then maybe I should consider myself lucky? I participated in Vulcan forged and get good payout and also Sovryn too, there are many successful projects since last year though you need to be willing to take risks if you want to make money from bounties, it's certain that not all projects will pay you and some will be worthless, my advice is don't give up
I agree with you, though I didn't participate in Vulcan forged I heard the pay was very good too but I did Sovryn and that was awesome for a bounty project. I mean, that was the best bounty paying I have ever participated in even though we cannot take away the fact that Bitcoin paying Buntes are better but we also understand that those are very limited to number or forum rank level. Cryptocurrency, in general, is more of a, Take your chance kind of thing and so the bounties are no different, you might be lucky to get a good one, and other times, you don't but that doesn't make the whole thing not worth it.
sr. member
Activity: 1722
Merit: 269
I want to know how much you guys are earning with these bounties that offer "stakes" for doing certain tasks because I am not convinced that they are legitimate. Here is why I think that. Lets say you did a signature campaign paying in their coin that is currently worth nothing but you put in hours of work to get this token with the anticipation that it might be worth something at some point. However as soon as it is worth something all the other participants in that signature campaign will be thinking the same thing. Withdraw. That then causes a dump effect on the token and you are back to it being worthless again.

I am 100% sure that most bounties today have the same teams behind them and they continue to do the same process each time in an attempt of being successful once out of the million times they have tried before. In modern times we have become accustomed to minimum wages or at least fair wages but you guys are doing work for nothing at the time of completing your work on the promise that they will be worth something down the line. Would you work for a company in the fiat world if they promised you to give you shares in their company without any guarantee that they would be successful?

I just do not understand why people would want to work for free without any guarantees at all. If you are really unlucky you could spend 1000s of hours doing work for these bounties and profit nothing. I am interested in hearing about your experience with these bounties and how much you profit when it comes to withdrawing the tokens.

It is definitely true that altcoin bounties are a huge risk because in at least 9 out of 10 cases you basically "work" for free because the project does a rugpull or it just never lifts of and in both scenarios that means your tokens are absolutely worthless if you even get them. It is still possible to find good altcoin bounties though you just need to look closely, do your research and don't just the next altcoin bounty that offers 500k$ worth of tokens for the bounty because that is already a bad sign. If a new projects is paying out that much to bounty participants then it is impossible that the price stays stable once all the bounty hunters sell their tokens. I would only join altcoin bounties of projects that i already knew before the bounty announcement and from where i know that people are interested in this project. Most of those project are not doing any bounties though because they don't need it anymore but some do, for example Radix last year.
sr. member
Activity: 1456
Merit: 251
Are you seriously reporting them to law enforcement? Doing so from where I am from, people would start laughing and take me for a lunatic. But if you have had any success do let the forum know because this would be a lively discussion for sure.

But the bottom line is pretty clear : bounty hunter became bounty hunters because of their own choice. So they have to suffer the consequences of their choice.
Is it possible that he will report the scammer to law enforcement in his country and how will the local law enforcement respond to this case.
Instead of paying attention to this problem, it is better to increase knowledge to make the top choices of projects that are worthy of being campaigned by bounty hunters.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
Well that is why many bounty hunters tend to handle multiple bounties at a time, so that they'll be able to mitigate risks of wasting their time on a single project.
Also because it is very easy to join multiple social media campaigns at the same time. Also shows that the bounty hunters are nothing more than hired mercenary like. Further shows that the lack of integrity that they have towards specific projects.

Point is that with more people failing to understand that bounties are not worth their time, the supply of bamboozled "no-pay" workers continue to grow and they will be scammed of their hard work and time.

They do not walk away they continue to open new bounties under different names and continue to scam us. We are not working hard enough to out these scammers and report them to the authorities this is why cryptocurrency is not being taken seriously outside of this forum.
Are you seriously reporting them to law enforcement? Doing so from where I am from, people would start laughing and take me for a lunatic. But if you have had any success do let the forum know because this would be a lively discussion for sure.

But the bottom line is pretty clear : bounty hunter became bounty hunters because of their own choice. So they have to suffer the consequences of their choice.
member
Activity: 110
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We need established members to negative tag any bounties which are promising gains when they are offering stakes because at that time it is not guaranteed that you will earn on them. Some bounties are saying that you can earn $40 a week and then they are paying with their own tokens which are not worth anything but they have just made up a number what their tokens are worth I wish on the forum we are more strict and negative tag these scammers.
sr. member
Activity: 334
Merit: 275
I wouldn't even complain if they make some adjustments to the pool because their ICO didn't go well or their IDO or whatever. That's ok and probably in our best interest as well. But the real problem is that they really run off from time to time or do everything they can to not pay at all. That's when it gets seriously annoying.
Yeah. If everything is fair even if there is allocation adjustment most of people gonna have no problem. I mean if the developer could keep the promise they make fulfilled then it's automatically also increase their reputation.
Most of people who seek bounties as I observer aren't that kind of people who just gonna dump the market once they see their reward in their wallet. Many of them actually become a long supporter and that kind of supporter is really essential to the project. If dev refuse to pay its their loss.

Very good point and I fully agree with it. If the team communicates in a trustworthy and convincing way, even if they cut the bounty in half in order to make sure they'll have enough finances to keep going and finish the product, it is fine. But they should stick to their schedules regarding payments. If they do that and build trust with the people who support them, I also believe that not so many will immediately dump. We should keep in mind though that there are people who do this for a living in poor countries and they might be forced to dump. It hits them even harder if bounties aren't paid out out of a sudden. That just sucks and hurts everyone involved in the end.
How is that fine? If they setup the contract by saying they will pay the full amount to all participants at the start of the bounty they should be held to that. I do not promise you for exchange of 1 Bitcoin that you can have a car from me but when it comes to sending the Bitcoin and car I say I can only do half of the car and you go "thats fine". We need to stop these scammers from doing this type of shit.
sr. member
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Merit: 253
I wouldn't even complain if they make some adjustments to the pool because their ICO didn't go well or their IDO or whatever. That's ok and probably in our best interest as well. But the real problem is that they really run off from time to time or do everything they can to not pay at all. That's when it gets seriously annoying.
Yeah. If everything is fair even if there is allocation adjustment most of people gonna have no problem. I mean if the developer could keep the promise they make fulfilled then it's automatically also increase their reputation.
Most of people who seek bounties as I observer aren't that kind of people who just gonna dump the market once they see their reward in their wallet. Many of them actually become a long supporter and that kind of supporter is really essential to the project. If dev refuse to pay its their loss.

Very good point and I fully agree with it. If the team communicates in a trustworthy and convincing way, even if they cut the bounty in half in order to make sure they'll have enough finances to keep going and finish the product, it is fine. But they should stick to their schedules regarding payments. If they do that and build trust with the people who support them, I also believe that not so many will immediately dump. We should keep in mind though that there are people who do this for a living in poor countries and they might be forced to dump. It hits them even harder if bounties aren't paid out out of a sudden. That just sucks and hurts everyone involved in the end.
sr. member
Activity: 334
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that really depends on what bounty you are signing up for. not all of them are same. Some of them turn out to be a scam while others are legit that distribute on time and consequently their project does well after launch. I would say most bounties distribute except may be handful that get mixed with them.



Just look at this thread most people agree that 90% are scams and I think they are run by the same people most of the time. We need to stop this from happening.
those who have successfully scammed the bounty community and their early investors through their new projects. of course, they won't just walk away.
after enjoying the benefits for a while, they will come back with a new project again and will commit fraud again. and there is always a cheat for all of it.
nowadays we are seeing more and more scam projects, and there is no way to get around this.
if you are thinking of the best way to regulate new projects with more decent bounty payments. maybe it will get support from many bounty hunter communities.
They do not walk away they continue to open new bounties under different names and continue to scam us. We are not working hard enough to out these scammers and report them to the authorities this is why cryptocurrency is not being taken seriously outside of this forum.
hero member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 502
We know that bounties are mostly a waste of time because almost 90% bounties don't pay to the hunters in the last two years from my personal experience. I confess that only signature paid by BTC here in Bitcointalk are the guaranteed payment but for bounty, it's mostly uncertain and most of the bounties will deceive at the end. Few projects pay but by delaying and when they pay, it becomes worthless. I still do few bounties only for collecting funds for investment. Investment gives me 20x profits than bounty although i spend 2x time in bounty.
The quality of the bounty investment is quite disappointing but can't stop hoping nor should stop participating, although bounties that don't pay directly in bitcoin can be very deceptive but you also said that your return on investment is many times higher, compared to paying bonuses in bitcoin, it just makes you feel like a waste of time. Both forms of payment make you unsatisfied but the big gift can come in the form of paying in tokens, bitcoin is always fixed and very low paying, in a year, just one successful project can warm you up
hero member
Activity: 2282
Merit: 589
those who have successfully scammed the bounty community and their early investors through their new projects. of course, they won't just walk away.
after enjoying the benefits for a while, they will come back with a new project again and will commit fraud again. and there is always a cheat for all of it.
nowadays we are seeing more and more scam projects, and there is no way to get around this.
There are many reports of scam projects based on proof of concept plagiarism and fake teams, we assume that scammers have made the same effort every time they create another scam project.
if you are thinking of the best way to regulate new projects with more decent bounty payments. maybe it will get support from many bounty hunter communities.
The best projects will always get a lot of support from real bounty hunters because we have analyzed the project details carefully, so you should be more selective in joining the bounty because 1 legit bounty is better than 10 bounties without analysis will end up bounty scam.
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ITSMYNE
i can't convince you because it is totally a waste of time. although i partake in bounties but i know what is involved. it is just a waste of time. reason is this. the project developers are all greedy. they use hunters to gain attention and then dump hunters when it is time for payment. also they sometimes swap into new tokens to destroy rewards earn by hunters in other to please the real destroyers.(investors).
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that really depends on what bounty you are signing up for. not all of them are same. Some of them turn out to be a scam while others are legit that distribute on time and consequently their project does well after launch. I would say most bounties distribute except may be handful that get mixed with them.



Just look at this thread most people agree that 90% are scams and I think they are run by the same people most of the time. We need to stop this from happening.
those who have successfully scammed the bounty community and their early investors through their new projects. of course, they won't just walk away.
after enjoying the benefits for a while, they will come back with a new project again and will commit fraud again. and there is always a cheat for all of it.
nowadays we are seeing more and more scam projects, and there is no way to get around this.
if you are thinking of the best way to regulate new projects with more decent bounty payments. maybe it will get support from many bounty hunter communities.
sr. member
Activity: 334
Merit: 275
that really depends on what bounty you are signing up for. not all of them are same. Some of them turn out to be a scam while others are legit that distribute on time and consequently their project does well after launch. I would say most bounties distribute except may be handful that get mixed with them.



Just look at this thread most people agree that 90% are scams and I think they are run by the same people most of the time. We need to stop this from happening.
hero member
Activity: 1540
Merit: 500
that really depends on what bounty you are signing up for. not all of them are same. Some of them turn out to be a scam while others are legit that distribute on time and consequently their project does well after launch. I would say most bounties distribute except may be handful that get mixed with them.


member
Activity: 252
Merit: 13
Then maybe I should consider myself lucky? I participated in Vulcan forged and get good payout and also Sovryn too, there are many successful projects since last year though you need to be willing to take risks if you want to make money from bounties, it's certain that not all projects will pay you and some will be worthless, my advice is don't give up
full member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 101
It looks like everyone agrees that bounties are no the same as they were in 2017 and are a waste of time in most cases. I think we should start tagging and not participating in lowly paid and not escrowed payment and then boycot those that are offering payment in their own worthless coin instead we should require them to pay in a existing altcoin which has value does not have to be Bitcoin or Ethereum but any altcoin that has value otherwise we are going to be scammed continuously and its no fault but our own.
but sometimes you will not understand how much you get from the bounty when everything is distributed.
some projects include large allocations but the results obtained when the open market is disappointing. there is also a small allocation but when the distribution of the token price increases. we will never know for sure which project will pay you well.

To reduce the risk, you can join a bounty campaign that pays with the coins that have been traded. but sometimes they have a small allocation.
sr. member
Activity: 334
Merit: 275
It looks like everyone agrees that bounties are no the same as they were in 2017 and are a waste of time in most cases. I think we should start tagging and not participating in lowly paid and not escrowed payment and then boycot those that are offering payment in their own worthless coin instead we should require them to pay in a existing altcoin which has value does not have to be Bitcoin or Ethereum but any altcoin that has value otherwise we are going to be scammed continuously and its no fault but our own.
full member
Activity: 1099
Merit: 116
We know that bounties are mostly a waste of time because almost 90% bounties don't pay to the hunters in the last two years from my personal experience. I confess that only signature paid by BTC here in Bitcointalk are the guaranteed payment but for bounty, it's mostly uncertain and most of the bounties will deceive at the end. Few projects pay but by delaying and when they pay, it becomes worthless. I still do few bounties only for collecting funds for investment. Investment gives me 20x profits than bounty although i spend 2x time in bounty.
hero member
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The best bounties are the ones that happened during the ICO craze of 2017. Where the pay is good and the job more intense. Of course there are projects that did not make it and all you got for 2 months of work would be coins or tokens that cannot be used, exchanged, or traded. But of course, picking the right project is essential and you have the best bounty managers then. If you know the best bounty manager then most likely you will get a good paying project. Too bad most of them encountered some bad projects so their reputation got affected. Why should I convince you by the way? No need because you are your own person some who makes decisions.
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