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BitterTea

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Quote from: Hawker on October 26, 2011, 10:39:31 AM

Still waiting for you to tell me how moving into politics would allow me own people.

Still waiting for you to clue me in to concrete historical inaccuracies in The Story of Your Enslavement.

Since I'm not a hypocrite, I will also answer your question (with a question). What does "ownership" mean to you?

Hawker

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Quote from: BitterTea on October 26, 2011, 10:35:05 AM

Quote from: Hawker on October 26, 2011, 10:31:45 AM

Do you notice that the comparison was used to justify real slavery?

So? There is a fundamental difference between "wage slavery" and slavery. "Wage slaves" can always choose to leave and find some other way to feed themselves, whether it's becoming an entrepreneur, finding a better paying job, etc.

Still waiting for you to tell me how moving into politics would allow me own people.

BitterTea

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Quote from: Hawker on October 26, 2011, 10:31:45 AM

Do you notice that the comparison was used to justify real slavery?

So? There is a fundamental difference between "wage slavery" and slavery. "Wage slaves" can always choose to leave and find some other way to feed themselves, whether it's becoming an entrepreneur, finding a better paying job, etc.

Hawker

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Quote from: BitterTea on October 26, 2011, 10:29:21 AM

Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 26, 2011, 10:27:41 AM

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You're happy being a slave. That's great, good for you. I'm not, yet you give the slavemaster money to make sure I'm a slave too. Fuck you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

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Similarities between wage labor and slavery were noted at least as early as Cicero. Before the American Civil War, Southern defenders of African American slavery invoked the concept to favorably compare the condition of their slaves to workers in the North.

Do you also see a similarity between taxation and slavery?

Do you notice that the comparison was used to justify real slavery?

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Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 26, 2011, 10:27:41 AM

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You're happy being a slave. That's great, good for you. I'm not, yet you give the slavemaster money to make sure I'm a slave too. Fuck you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

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Similarities between wage labor and slavery were noted at least as early as Cicero. Before the American Civil War, Southern defenders of African American slavery invoked the concept to favorably compare the condition of their slaves to workers in the North.

Do you also see a similarity between taxation and slavery?

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Quote from: cbeast on October 26, 2011, 09:15:11 AM

It's a provocative notion, but he didn't believe it or he would not have been so outspoken.

What do you mean by this?

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Quote from: BitterTea

You're happy being a slave. That's great, good for you. I'm not, yet you give the slavemaster money to make sure I'm a slave too. Fuck you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

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Similarities between wage labor and slavery were noted at least as early as Cicero. Before the American Civil War, Southern defenders of African American slavery invoked the concept to favorably compare the condition of their slaves to workers in the North.

Hawker

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Quote from: BitterTea on October 26, 2011, 10:21:17 AM

Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 26, 2011, 08:56:51 AM

Except they get a living wage, health care, and retirement.

If I had to choose, I'd rather be owned by the guy who gives me that than the one who gives me minimum wage and a coupon for 10% off a turkey at Christmas.

You're happy being a slave. That's great, good for you. I'm not, yet you give the slavemaster money to make sure I'm a slave too. Fuck you.

Just preserving this as pretending you are a slave is pathetic.

BitterTea

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Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 26, 2011, 08:56:51 AM

Except they get a living wage, health care, and retirement.

If I had to choose, I'd rather be owned by the guy who gives me that than the one who gives me minimum wage and a coupon for 10% off a turkey at Christmas.

You're happy being a slave. That's great, good for you. I'm not, yet you give the slavemaster money to make sure I'm a slave too. Fuck you.

cbeast

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

I think he's referring to George Carlin's suggestion that "they" own you. It's a provocative notion, but he didn't believe it or he would not have been so outspoken.

Hawker

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Quote from: BitterTea on October 26, 2011, 08:43:38 AM

Quote from: Hawker on October 26, 2011, 02:23:03 AM

Bureaucrats are poorly paid public employees. Are you seriously saying that the clerks in the local department of motor vehicles own you?

Wow, can you be more disingenuous? The clerks at the DMV are to the line cooks at McDonald's as politicians are to CEOs.

Yes, the politicians own you, and with the cooperation or ignorance of a small number of people, can cast a magic spell (law) and turn you into a criminal, lock you in jail, or execute you.

So if I become a politician, that means I own people. Seems a valubale reward for little effort!

Do you have any statistics on how many people I own as a parish councillor? What about a member of parliament - do they get to choose which people they own or is it random? Is there a "no way I don't want that fat stinky guy" option as part of this ownership scheme?

Is Sarah Palin a politician and does she own people? I know she used to be but now she sells books. Or did she lose the people she owned when Obama won in 2008? Were they given to Joe Biden perhaps?

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Quote from: BitterTea on October 26, 2011, 08:43:38 AM

The clerks at the DMV are to the line cooks at McDonald's as politicians are to CEOs.

Except they get a living wage, health care, and retirement.

If I had to choose, I'd rather be owned by the guy who gives me that than the one who gives me minimum wage and a coupon for 10% off a turkey at Christmas.

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Quote from: Hawker on October 26, 2011, 02:23:03 AM

Bureaucrats are poorly paid public employees. Are you seriously saying that the clerks in the local department of motor vehicles own you?

Wow, can you be more disingenuous? The clerks at the DMV are to the line cooks at McDonald's as politicians are to CEOs.

Yes, the politicians own you, and with the cooperation or ignorance of a small number of people, can cast a magic spell (law) and turn you into a criminal, lock you in jail, or execute you.

cbeast

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

I don't see the parties as left vs. right. I see them as (mostly) intellectual vs. willfully ignorant. Sure, the Dems are shifting toward the WI, and the smart Dems have to work with the tools (pun intended) they have. Face it, the USA has crossed the Rubicon of idiocracy and will never be as good as it once was, but we can only change things for the better by getting the smart folks together and agree to stop listening to the dumbasses of the world.

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Democrats are getting more and more conservative. If I vote for them, I send the message that I support that shift. If enough people drop the Democrats and vote for far-left parties (haha I know), it sends the message that voters won't put up with their bullshit. It's not even about having a specific third party candidate I like, since I know he'll never win anyway. It's about trying to build support so that we will either have such a candidate in the future, or we'll have Democrats that seem like they're even still vaguely part of the left-wing. Neither are very likely, but with our country at a point where Dems seem open to ideas of gutting Social Security (a political death sentence 20 years ago, even for a Republican), it's worth a shot.

cbeast

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 26, 2011, 03:04:06 AM

Well, actually I'll vote third party, but still.

Don't bother. If your "third party" isn't making a serious effort, then why vote for them? Obama is smart and a successful campaigner. I think of him as more of like chocolate sprinkles on the shit parfait that is US politics. He's better than voting on a political loser.

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Quote from: FreeMoney on October 26, 2011, 04:29:07 AM

Isn't a cigarette like super bad in that spot?

where do you put them?

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Strength in numbers

Isn't a cigarette like super bad in that spot?

Every politician creeps me out.

"I noticed a huge control apparatus." "I'd like to test it out on you this January. Please yank my lever or punch my chad."

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I noticed that all of the articles about Cain hail his achievements as Godfather's Pizza CEO, but neglect to mention what those achievements were. He cut the chain from 900 stores down to 400 and got rid of thousands of employees. Does it really take a business genius to recognize that the way to make your chain profitable is to close all of the locations that aren't profitable?

Now he has a tax plan that will raise the hell out of taxes on minimum wage earners... like Godfather's Pizza employees.

I wouldn't want a guy like that to be the boss at my workplace and I sure don't want him to be the boss of my country. Forced to choose between shit and double-shit sundae with shit cherries, I guess I'll take Obama. Well, actually I'll vote third party, but still.

Hawker

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Quote from: BitterTea on October 25, 2011, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Hawker on October 25, 2011, 05:22:40 PM

The filter is reality. The internet is awash with people with theories from marxism to the lizard masters. That video was just one more.

Do you personally believe that you are "livestock" with an owner?

So, no specific historical criticisms?

In the same way that some animal farmers provide some level of freedom in order for their livestock to provide better milk and meat, some human farmers (bureaucrats) provide some level of freedom in order for their human "livestock" to provide more tax revenue.

Bureaucrats are poorly paid public employees. Are you seriously saying that the clerks in the local department of motor vehicles own you?

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