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legendary
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February 14, 2021, 04:38:32 PM
Good luck for we are free from coronavirus a lot of part.Now maximum people have to get ride from this virus so bless to God.But we should be aware of this too.May be it’s the biggest challenge to Against Corona and luckily we can get ride of this.
We are not free from corona virus until 70% people take vaccine. We might be free from corona virus when 70% people will take vaccine for 2nd time. And I think it is long farr. It may take about or more than a year. So, we are still on too much risk for corona virus.

We won't be free from Covid by taking a vaccine. Why not? Vaccines weaken our immune systems. Covid will only get worse, even if it is in a different way. And we will become susceptible to all kinds of other things and viruses.

Simplest way to beat Covid is to take larger amounts of Vitamin D, vitamin C and zinc.

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the hydroxychloroquine and budesonide that YOU advertise weakens the immune system. they dampen the immune response as part of their known feature

a vaccine in an arm muscles does not dampen the immune response. it actually trigger the immune response
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 14, 2021, 03:48:24 PM
Good luck for we are free from coronavirus a lot of part.Now maximum people have to get ride from this virus so bless to God.But we should be aware of this too.May be it’s the biggest challenge to Against Corona and luckily we can get ride of this.
We are not free from corona virus until 70% people take vaccine. We might be free from corona virus when 70% people will take vaccine for 2nd time. And I think it is long farr. It may take about or more than a year. So, we are still on too much risk for corona virus.

We won't be free from Covid by taking a vaccine. Why not? Vaccines weaken our immune systems. Covid will only get worse, even if it is in a different way. And we will become susceptible to all kinds of other things and viruses.

Simplest way to beat Covid is to take larger amounts of Vitamin D, vitamin C and zinc.

Cool
hero member
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Maintain Social Distance, Stay safe.
February 14, 2021, 01:35:49 PM
Good luck for we are free from coronavirus a lot of part.Now maximum people have to get ride from this virus so bless to God.But we should be aware of this too.May be it’s the biggest challenge to Against Corona and luckily we can get ride of this.
We are not free from corona virus until 70% people take vaccine. We might be free from corona virus when 70% people will take vaccine for 2nd time. And I think it is long farr. It may take about or more than a year. So, we are still on too much risk for corona virus.
legendary
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February 13, 2021, 10:56:14 PM
Even if these patients were DNR, it's not right to send them back into nursing homes where they could have infected others after they were confirmed to be COVID positive. There was an unused naval ship with empty beds that were stationed in NY, along with overflow setups that allowed for COVID positive nursing home patients to stay. Sending them back probably killed thousands more. That's devastating if you had a family member who might've been saved.

yep.
by summer UK had temporary 'knightingale' hospitals. the problem is they were only fitted with intubations. some infectees also needed kidney dialysis, ecmo, blood transfusions, and other equipment and so the temp hospitals didnt get used and patients went to proper hospitals..
yep knightingales were not fitted with full ICU equipment, heck they didnt even have enough staff with skills in sedation

however
 the palliative care patients could have gone into the unused knightingales.. but again it didnt even have the resources for palliative care. so were put back into residential homes

they did try to section off parts of residential homes.. but the issue is the air vents are interconnected. they didnt(just like aeroplanes didnt) change out the normal airflow systems of the rooms. instead they thought a wall and 2m was all that was required

..
as of this month. the knightingales are only being used for people in recovery. where all they need is a bit of oxygen and just a bed to gain their strength. anything requiring actually medical intervention is not suitable for what the knightingales have to offer.
however if they need palliative care they are still taken back to residential homes to die in comfort. as are their final wishes

From what I read there were naval ships stationed in NY for the NYC patients, and another ship stationed in LA.

They had the equipment to be used as overflow facilities which is why it's so bizarre that Cuomo allowed nursing home patients back into the same facility to spread COVID. You can try to section off the nursing homes but COVID is too transmissible for it to matter. You're right about the vents and to add to that -- social distancing is probably impossible in these nursing homes. All it takes is 15 minutes total within 6 feet for there to be a good chance of infection.
legendary
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February 12, 2021, 06:59:47 PM
Even if these patients were DNR, it's not right to send them back into nursing homes where they could have infected others after they were confirmed to be COVID positive. There was an unused naval ship with empty beds that were stationed in NY, along with overflow setups that allowed for COVID positive nursing home patients to stay. Sending them back probably killed thousands more. That's devastating if you had a family member who might've been saved.

yep.
by summer UK had temporary 'knightingale' hospitals. the problem is they were only fitted with intubations. some infectees also needed kidney dialysis, ecmo, blood transfusions, and other equipment and so the temp hospitals didnt get used and patients went to proper hospitals..
yep knightingales were not fitted with full ICU equipment, heck they didnt even have enough staff with skills in sedation

however
 the palliative care patients could have gone into the unused knightingales.. but again it didnt even have the resources for palliative care. so were put back into residential homes

they did try to section off parts of residential homes.. but the issue is the air vents are interconnected. they didnt(just like aeroplanes didnt) change out the normal airflow systems of the rooms. instead they thought a wall and 2m was all that was required

..
as of this month. the knightingales are only being used for people in recovery. where all they need is a bit of oxygen and just a bed to gain their strength. anything requiring actually medical intervention is not suitable for what the knightingales have to offer.
however if they need palliative care they are still taken back to residential homes to die in comfort. as are their final wishes

Do you see, Gyfts? It's stuff like this that is showing everyone what a troll f-1 is. The stuff he's talking about barely touches on the point you made. His whole idea is to mess with the minds of anybody who questions Covid control operations in any way, and to at least lead them off in a different path.

The fact that he can barely spell right, and certainly doesn't use correct grammar and punctuation, simply shows that he doesn't even care what the truth is. All he wants is to mix anybody up who is speaking the truth out directly... to the world.

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legendary
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Merit: 4794
February 12, 2021, 06:53:23 PM
Even if these patients were DNR, it's not right to send them back into nursing homes where they could have infected others after they were confirmed to be COVID positive. There was an unused naval ship with empty beds that were stationed in NY, along with overflow setups that allowed for COVID positive nursing home patients to stay. Sending them back probably killed thousands more. That's devastating if you had a family member who might've been saved.

yep.
by summer UK had temporary 'knightingale' hospitals. the problem is they were only fitted with intubations. some infectees also needed kidney dialysis, ecmo, blood transfusions, and other equipment and so the temp hospitals didnt get used and patients went to proper hospitals..
yep knightingales were not fitted with full ICU equipment, heck they didnt even have enough staff with skills in sedation

however
 the palliative care patients could have gone into the unused knightingales.. but again it didnt even have the resources for palliative care. so were put back into residential homes

they did try to section off parts of residential homes.. but the issue is the air vents are interconnected. they didnt(just like aeroplanes didnt) change out the normal airflow systems of the rooms. instead they thought a wall and 2m was all that was required

..
as of this month. the knightingales are only being used for people in recovery. where all they need is a bit of oxygen and just a bed to gain their strength. anything requiring actually medical intervention is not suitable for what the knightingales have to offer.
however if they need palliative care they are still taken back to residential homes to die in comfort. as are their final wishes
legendary
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Merit: 1519
February 12, 2021, 05:11:59 PM

that stuff is where, when elderly people on DNR's(Do Not Resusitate) reached a critical point of needing intubation. obviously the DNR wouldnt allow that. and only palliative(pain and sedation) care would be options. and so hospitals transfered patients back to nursing homes that offer palliative care to occupy less hospital beds

yes it seems evil to not intubate everyone that needs it even if they dont want it. but sometimes honouring peoples last wishes is better.

however there are actually some cases where people with certain pre-existing ailments. were categorised as not going to survive covid if they get it. and arrangements were made to inform families of this. and to get families to arrange DNR early on as a means of reducing the amount of residential home residents who would/should be shuttled into hospital if they got covid

in the UK. the initial confusion made clinicians and residential home managers go a lil overboard in informing some residents that they should sign a DNR because the residents frailty meant they were unlikely to survive.
within a week of some families complaining that some clinicians wanted to give up on their frail relatives. they revised the protocol
this article talks about it
https://www.cqc.org.uk/news/releases/cqc-finds-combination-increasing-pressures-rapidly-developing-guidance-may-have
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DNACPR decisions and advance care plans should only ever take place with clear involvement of the individual, or an appropriate representative, and a clear understanding of what they would like to happen.

While there is no evidence to suggest that blanket approaches to DNACPR decisions are being used currently, people who use services and groups that represent them told CQC that early in the pandemic they or their loved ones received DNACPR decisions which were not based on their wishes and needs, and without their knowledge and consent.


Even if these patients were DNR, it's not right to send them back into nursing homes where they could have infected others after they were confirmed to be COVID positive. There was an unused naval ship with empty beds that were stationed in NY, along with overflow setups that allowed for COVID positive nursing home patients to stay. Sending them back probably killed thousands more. That's devastating if you had a family member who might've been saved.
legendary
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Merit: 4794
February 12, 2021, 05:08:14 PM
in case someone does not know the "new strains" are actually the vaccines.
Brazil, UK and South Africa where places AstraZeneca trialed the vaccine.

the vaccine goes in the arm. its not inhaled in the lung.
the strains of the virus are numerous. there are hundreds of them. but the ones of concern are several generations deep and its ancestry can be found as descending from the virus

the vaccine does not have the same envelope or other features. there is a clear difference in visual form, protein form, function and effects
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
February 12, 2021, 04:51:43 PM
[https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/02/no_author/politicians-seem-loath-to-let-covid-end/]Even when we were permitted out of our homes, they imposed rules on who we could visit, how long we could visit, and what we could do while we visited.

Not surprising they shout it from the anonymous shadows with no evidence - just up your alley.  Smiley

Give in to god but realize you are unique - just like everyone else. 
legendary
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Merit: 1385
February 12, 2021, 04:39:52 PM
They don't want it to end, because we would all see that the whole thing was a scam all along.


Politicians Seem Loath To Let Covid End



Even when we were permitted out of our homes, they imposed rules on who we could visit, how long we could visit, and what we could do while we visited.

Then they told us that once a vaccine was ready, life would get back to normal. Then it moved to once the vaccine is distributed, normal life will resume.

Now not only one, but multiple vaccines have arrived and are being distributed across the United States and the rest of world. Yet the goalposts continue to move as those who enjoy the largesse of government and the control it gives them over the populace scramble to come up with new conditions they claim must be met before the fight against COVID-19 is over and we can be allowed to live lives free of microbial terror.

Six authors, all of whom "served on the covid-19 advisory board for the Biden presidential transition" argue in a Washington Post opinion piece that there are three other milestones that must be reached before the pandemic is "solve[d]." 

"First, we need substantially more genomic surveillance." Since there may be many variants of COVID within the United States, the authors argue, the country must sequence the genome "of about 3 to 5 percent of cases—currently as many as 50,000 viruses a week." This may not sound like it would be particularly helpful in directly combatting the pandemic, but it leads into the second item on the authors' wish list. That being… more vaccines.


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sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
February 12, 2021, 02:59:44 PM

A Case filed in the International Criminal Court Against Lockdowns, Former Australian Govt Official
https://youtu.be/bTSnwHCF5As

In case someone does not know the "new strains" are actually the vaccines.
Brazil, UK and South Africa where places AstraZeneca trialed the vaccine.

legendary
Activity: 4424
Merit: 4794
February 12, 2021, 02:02:00 PM

that stuff is where, when elderly people on DNR's(Do Not Resusitate) reached a critical point of needing intubation. obviously the DNR wouldnt allow that. and only palliative(pain and sedation) care would be options. and so hospitals transfered patients back to nursing homes that offer palliative care to occupy less hospital beds

yes it seems evil to not intubate everyone that needs it even if they dont want it. but sometimes honouring peoples last wishes is better.

however there are actually some cases where people with certain pre-existing ailments. were categorised as not going to survive covid if they get it. and arrangements were made to inform families of this. and to get families to arrange DNR early on as a means of reducing the amount of residential home residents who would/should be shuttled into hospital if they got covid

in the UK. the initial confusion made clinicians and residential home managers go a lil overboard in informing some residents that they should sign a DNR because the residents frailty meant they were unlikely to survive.
within a week of some families complaining that some clinicians wanted to give up on their frail relatives. they revised the protocol
this article talks about it
https://www.cqc.org.uk/news/releases/cqc-finds-combination-increasing-pressures-rapidly-developing-guidance-may-have
Quote
DNACPR decisions and advance care plans should only ever take place with clear involvement of the individual, or an appropriate representative, and a clear understanding of what they would like to happen.

While there is no evidence to suggest that blanket approaches to DNACPR decisions are being used currently, people who use services and groups that represent them told CQC that early in the pandemic they or their loved ones received DNACPR decisions which were not based on their wishes and needs, and without their knowledge and consent.
legendary
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February 12, 2021, 12:30:10 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-law-expands-cuomos-power-during-coronavirus-outbreak-11583269075 - (Old article but it does the job explaining Cuomo's power that was granted in March when the pandemic was out of hand -behind a paywall)

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2021/02/12/new-york-state-nursing-home-deaths-number - New article that discusses the situation.

Andrew "I killed your grandmother" Cuomo and his nursing home scandal continues to unravel. No surprise that the numbers weren't reported properly and I'm glad some democrats are stepping up to the plate and calling for the powers given to Cuomo to be revoked. Keep in mind, most of this stuff was uncovered before the election. It's only now that everything is coming to fruition.
legendary
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February 12, 2021, 08:31:21 AM
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its hard to segregate the vaccinated group from the unvaccinate group. to do so would cause a need for a 'passport' which surprisingly some here would not like the passport idea to allow those vaccinated to have better 'normals' than those who havnt been vaccinated.
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Surprisingly the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, etc didn't like the IBM tattoos which helped keep them safe in the forced labor camps either.  Go figure.  They probably had some weird conspiracy theories about the kinds of things the tattoos could be used for.

there is a big difference between government lock people up in prison. vs TVBCOF theory that the tattoo is actually robots and it turns jews into lizards
.. atleast accept the tattoo was just ink and not run down your silly nonsense theories

if you stuck with a conspiracy of say:
government didnt act till march to pretend they dont want to be nazi, to persuade people into nazi conformity with promises of relaxations if enough conform quick enough

you would atleast have a slightly justified extremist view of reality..
but.. you went full idiot by talking about mutants and nano robots and genocide
.. basically you went full whacko extremist. falling far outside of reality
legendary
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February 12, 2021, 06:02:22 AM
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its hard to segregate the vaccinated group from the unvaccinate group. to do so would cause a need for a 'passport' which surprisingly some here would not like the passport idea to allow those vaccinated to have better 'normals' than those who havnt been vaccinated.
...

Surprisingly the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, etc didn't like the IBM tattoos which helped keep them safe in the forced labor camps either.  Go figure.  They probably had some weird conspiracy theories about the kinds of things the tattoos could be used for.

legendary
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February 11, 2021, 10:37:13 PM
Unfortunately, you have a valid point about this being the new normal.

The world has been at this for nearly a year and because the US had gotten hit fairly bad, it's expected that even after you get vaccinated that you wear a mask and socially distance (according to Joe Biden's administration). Why bother getting the vaccine if the new normal is post-COVID restrictions AFTER you got jabbed?

getting vacinated does not mean 2.5 hours later you can do as you like.
the vaccine takes time to build immunity. so that means weeks

government cant just say masks are no longer needed based on a single 10% of population having a vaccine 2 hours ago. nor 2 weeks ago.

because 90% are still at risk

its hard to segregate the vaccinated group from the unvaccinate group. to do so would cause a need for a 'passport' which surprisingly some here would not like the passport idea to allow those vaccinated to have better 'normals' than those who havnt been vaccinated.

yes thats right i said it. if government did say those vaccinated can go around maskless and be normal. the conspiracy idiots would cry and scream. then they would open photoshop and fake their own vaccination papers and pretend they been vaccinated too. and thus create a health risk due to the antivaxxers faking being vaccinated. thus having a certain percentage of population still passing it around due to their refusals to even think about the logic and common sense of personal space, health

so. the "game" conspiracy nuts think is about being nazi's. is actually about public health where by due to the FACT that idiots will ignore public health advice, public health logic, public health common sense. rules need to continue until the health risk is minimalised.

if these nutters did just learn common sense to respect personal space of others and actually just do the common sense stuff to avoid the spread. this stuff could have been dealt with alot faster.

yep the virus does not spread 'coz government' it spread 'coz idiots disrespect others personal space'
i can guarantee you this, 100% of those getting sick got sick because they.. not government. but the sick person came into contact with someone else. .. nothing to do with government

people spread the virus. and if the virus is spreading. then its because people are not using common sense to protect themselves or others around them
legendary
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February 11, 2021, 08:41:59 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html

And this story is from today - https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/texas-boy-hangs-himself-after-battling-depression-amid-covid

Isolating children is causing mass depression and the social isolation is causing children to take their lives. EU countries opened their schools ages ago, some never closed. But in the US, apparently opening schools is a political matter. I wonder how many dead children it takes to recognize that in person learning and social contact is necessary for child development.

Do you think that anyone did NOTE recognize this way back before this exersice went live?  I wonder how many dead children it takes before people understand, in general figures,  the numbers of souls that the game designers consider desirable.

The interesting thing is that seriously mentally fucked up people probably make BETTER technocrats than normal humans.  Those who don't cut deeply enough into their wrists and thus survive long enough to perform a useful function in the 'new normal' could well be one of the things being cultivated here.



Unfortunately, you have a valid point about this being the new normal.

The world has been at this for nearly a year and because the US had gotten hit fairly bad, it's expected that even after you get vaccinated that you wear a mask and socially distance (according to Joe Biden's administration). Why bother getting the vaccine if the new normal is post-COVID restrictions AFTER you got jabbed?
legendary
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February 11, 2021, 07:28:48 PM
https://thehighwire.com/, or https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ for the latest Thursday report/video.

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THE HIGHWIRE ANGELS INSIDERS REPORT

The HighWire is now one of the most censored news programs in the entire world! Tune in today to find out why. We investigate why Bill Gates turns out to be one of the biggest owners of American farmland. Then we talk about herd immunity – will we get there naturally or through vaccination? Cheryl Chumley of the Washington Times joins us to talk about vaccine travel passports. And we turn the tables on New York State with a fact-check of our own! Come see what everyone is talking about TODAY at 2:00 PM EST/11:00 AM PST.


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legendary
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February 11, 2021, 05:09:30 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html

And this story is from today - https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/texas-boy-hangs-himself-after-battling-depression-amid-covid

Isolating children is causing mass depression and the social isolation is causing children to take their lives. EU countries opened their schools ages ago, some never closed. But in the US, apparently opening schools is a political matter. I wonder how many dead children it takes to recognize that in person learning and social contact is necessary for child development.

Do you think that anyone did NOTE recognize this way back before this exersice went live?  I wonder how many dead children it takes before people understand, in general figures,  the numbers of souls that the game designers consider desirable.

The interesting thing is that seriously mentally fucked up people probably make BETTER technocrats than normal humans.  Those who don't cut deeply enough into their wrists and thus survive long enough to perform a useful function in the 'new normal' could well be one of the things being cultivated here.

legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1519
February 11, 2021, 04:51:49 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html

And this story is from today - https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/texas-boy-hangs-himself-after-battling-depression-amid-covid

Isolating children is causing mass depression and the social isolation is causing children to take their lives. EU countries opened their schools ages ago, some never closed. But in the US, apparently opening schools is a political matter. I wonder how many dead children it takes to recognize that in person learning and social contact is necessary for child development.
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