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Quote from: Febo on July 26, 2020, 06:33:59 AM

I believe they have some thing on their feet and local police checks them. Every country have a system made fro people to serve from their homes. Of course that are fro those that are not dangerous and probabyl allready sit part of their sentence. You should google about it to see how is organised in your country.

those ankle bracelets? i doubt they have enough to go around if they go hog wild releasing inmates. even the just non violent ones. im not too sure how robust the system that tracks them is either. at least in the usa anyway.

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Quote from: Febo on July 25, 2020, 12:59:08 PM

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Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries.

That is the easiest what can be done. Usually prisons everywhere lie in conditions that are below standard. Simply because there is always to little money to build more prisons. Crowd is very bad fro covid-19 spreading. So only smart thing is to send some prisoners to sit few months at home. I dont see any reason why that should not be done everywhere in the world. Well rich countries can fast build more prisons. Poor simply send few prisoners to housearrest.

There should be no special treatment for the prisoners. They are criminals and if you allow them the house arrest they may escape and the law enforcement agencies may not be able to find them. Also we don't want more crimes because of the criminal escaping the jails because of covid19.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on July 25, 2020, 02:24:56 PM

Quote from: Febo on July 25, 2020, 12:59:08 PM

Quote from: airtman on March 24, 2020, 03:19:45 AM

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries.

That is the easiest what can be done. Usually prisons everywhere lie in conditions that are below standard. Simply because there is always to little money to build more prisons. Crowd is very bad fro covid-19 spreading. So only smart thing is to send some prisoners to sit few months at home. I dont see any reason why that should not be done everywhere in the world. Well rich countries can fast build more prisons. Poor simply send few prisoners to housearrest.

Who will monitor whether the prisoner is at home? Do you think that after such an "amnesty" the prisoners will sit quietly and wait until they are locked back in their cells? I do not think.
What will they eat? They will not have work, which means they will not have money. That is, they will be fed by their families, who may not even be waiting for them. The risk that such a rabble will begin to rob, steal and rape is too great.

I believe they have some thing on their feet and local police checks them. Every country have a system made fro people to serve from their homes. Of course that are fro those that are not dangerous and probabyl allready sit part of their sentence. You should google about it to see how is organised in your country.

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Quote from: Febo on July 25, 2020, 12:59:08 PM

Quote from: airtman on March 24, 2020, 03:19:45 AM

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries.

That is the easiest what can be done. Usually prisons everywhere lie in conditions that are below standard. Simply because there is always to little money to build more prisons. Crowd is very bad fro covid-19 spreading. So only smart thing is to send some prisoners to sit few months at home. I dont see any reason why that should not be done everywhere in the world. Well rich countries can fast build more prisons. Poor simply send few prisoners to housearrest.

Who will monitor whether the prisoner is at home? Do you think that after such an "amnesty" the prisoners will sit quietly and wait until they are locked back in their cells? I do not think.
What will they eat? They will not have work, which means they will not have money. That is, they will be fed by their families, who may not even be waiting for them. The risk that such a rabble will begin to rob, steal and rape is too great.

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Quote from: airtman on March 24, 2020, 03:19:45 AM

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries.

That is the easiest what can be done. Usually prisons everywhere lie in conditions that are below standard. Simply because there is always to little money to build more prisons. Crowd is very bad fro covid-19 spreading. So only smart thing is to send some prisoners to sit few months at home. I dont see any reason why that should not be done everywhere in the world. Well rich countries can fast build more prisons. Poor simply send few prisoners to housearrest.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on July 21, 2020, 06:03:49 AM

the effect of freeing prisoners from prison makes the crime rate high, I think those who are in prison are better at being in than being able to unsettle the community, the policy is a blunder, if releasing them because covid -19, therefore better stay inside rather than hanging around.

There is not any reason to let them free in order to make them covid free in prisons.
They can just force prisoners to keep social distancing as all people do.
The key is isolation to them

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Quote from: CarnagexD on July 24, 2020, 11:53:38 AM

Quote from: airtman on March 24, 2020, 03:19:45 AM

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries, I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?

Here in our country, that scenario is too suspicious, the authorities said that those high profile inmates died from Covid-19 and yet they don't release any proof of that report. They just release the news regarding that, and they just leave the public hanging with their so called "fake drama".

As a citizen of that country, we need to find the truth, we want to be aware of those events.

The public said that, "maybe they just used the Covid-19 diseases as an escape goat to really escape the prison".

I hope that our government is not hiding something from us and using the Covid-19 to do dubious things.

There is also a news here regarding those 18 positive cases in one of an urban city in this country. They said that 9 of them are inmates and the other 9 are personnel, the government should also be aware and focus on the happening inside the prisons as they are really congested their and the rate of transmission of the virus could possibly fast.

I saw a lot of news about lot of inmates around the world that are now been infected of the virus and some of them died because of the virus. The government should also create a solution in this kind of problem because it can be fatal if they will not make a move and many more prisoners can be infected with the virus. Even though they are inmates who commit a lot of crimes, they are still humans like us and they also deserve medical treatment like us.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on July 21, 2020, 06:03:49 AM

the effect of freeing prisoners from prison makes the crime rate high, I think those who are in prison are better at being in than being able to unsettle the community, the policy is a blunder, if releasing them because covid -19, therefore better stay inside rather than hanging around.

There is no need for them to be freed if they haven't served the sentence given to them. What they need is to be isolated from other people or at least be in a place that can't be reached by unauthorized people.

Quote from: CarnagexD on July 24, 2020, 11:53:38 AM

Here in our country, that scenario is too suspicious, the authorities said that those high profile inmates died from Covid-19 and yet they don't release any proof of that report. They just release the news regarding that, and they just leave the public hanging with their so called "fake drama".

As a citizen of that country, we need to find the truth, we want to be aware of those events.

The public said that, "maybe they just used the Covid-19 diseases as an escape goat to really escape the prison".

I hope that our government is not hiding something from us and using the Covid-19 to do dubious things.

There is also a news here regarding those 18 positive cases in one of an urban city in this country. They said that 9 of them are inmates and the other 9 are personnel, the government should also be aware and focus on the happening inside the prisons as they are really congested their and the rate of transmission of the virus could possibly fast.

Thoughts are being made because of covid19 and truth is hard to believe even if it's real. And that is due to the situation that we're having.

Covid19 is deadly and sadly, it's up to those personnels and officials if they're stating the truth.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 25, 2020, 04:00:52 AM

Since prisoners have as much contact with each other as free people, a great solution is to check their temperature daily in the morning and evening. This will help you quickly identify an infected person and send them to the hospital for treatment. And of course, we must not forget about the need to install sanitizers in prisons.

Unfortunately the soap is already scare in prisons. The general hygiene standards in prisons is very poor. Together with limited space makes it for the corona virus so much easier to spread in prisons. The medical sections are just not big enough to handle any large corona outbreak. And leaving inmates in there cells will just increase infections even more.

One solutions would be to reduce the prison population. Inmates with less than 6 month left on there sentence, or non violent offenders could be allowed to return home earlier with special measures to be checked upon the police.

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Quote from: SacriFries11 on July 25, 2020, 03:41:58 AM

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Since prisoners have as much contact with each other as free people, a great solution is to check their temperature daily in the morning and evening. This will help you quickly identify an infected person and send them to the hospital for treatment. And of course, we must not forget about the need to install sanitizers in prisons.

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I think the implementation dealing with COVID-19 need to be taken seriously. Prisons are almost contacting each other and need to continue to shut down the entering of the people going inside the prison. I’m sure if 1 gets infected by this virus another inmate will be infected as well. They need to quickly isolate the person who got contact over the positive case. It’s not only the safety of the prisoners there but also the personnel working there. Prevention is better than cure. It’s better to deal with it before this could occur rather than after this happened. Some prison facilities have enough space to isolate the people with positive case or the one that already contact the positive case.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on July 24, 2020, 11:53:38 AM

Quote from: airtman on March 24, 2020, 03:19:45 AM

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries, I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?

Here in our country, that scenario is too suspicious, the authorities said that those high profile inmates died from Covid-19 and yet they don't release any proof of that report. They just release the news regarding that, and they just leave the public hanging with their so called "fake drama".

As a citizen of that country, we need to find the truth, we want to be aware of those events.

The public said that, "maybe they just used the Covid-19 diseases as an escape goat to really escape the prison".

I hope that our government is not hiding something from us and using the Covid-19 to do dubious things.

There is also a news here regarding those 18 positive cases in one of an urban city in this country. They said that 9 of them are inmates and the other 9 are personnel, the government should also be aware and focus on the happening inside the prisons as they are really congested their and the rate of transmission of the virus could possibly fast.

This will really be a good scapegoat from those high profile inmates to get out from prison. If the prison staffs are corrupt, they will accept bribe money and put a show that they are dead because of Covid. And since they need to be cremated afterwards or buried immediately without being seen in public, there will be conspiracy theories that may arise from this situation. I hope this will not be the case with those high profile inmates with huge stash of money. But the possibility is actually high from happening.

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I don't know how good it is to release prisoners from prisons due to the epidemiological situation. They are all isolated. That is, only prison staff can bring the virus from outside.
This means that all contacts between prisoners and prison staff need to be excluded and everything will be ok. But as always, it's best to complicate things.

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Quote from: airtman on March 24, 2020, 03:19:45 AM

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries, I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?

Here in our country, that scenario is too suspicious, the authorities said that those high profile inmates died from Covid-19 and yet they don't release any proof of that report. They just release the news regarding that, and they just leave the public hanging with their so called "fake drama".

As a citizen of that country, we need to find the truth, we want to be aware of those events.

The public said that, "maybe they just used the Covid-19 diseases as an escape goat to really escape the prison".

I hope that our government is not hiding something from us and using the Covid-19 to do dubious things.

There is also a news here regarding those 18 positive cases in one of an urban city in this country. They said that 9 of them are inmates and the other 9 are personnel, the government should also be aware and focus on the happening inside the prisons as they are really congested their and the rate of transmission of the virus could possibly fast.

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It is difficult to say what can be done in this situation. What do you think?
Prisons do not need sick prisoners because this can lead to multiple delusions. Overcrowded infirmaries, for example, can cause a lot of difficulties in managing a prison, because there are likely to be regulations governing the need to stay sick in infirmaries.
People serving sentences must be provided with everything they need, otherwise they will infect the prison staff, which in turn will infect their surroundings outside the prison. Those who neglect this should be held accountable.

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I think detainees are better off staying in prison than having to be released temporarily because of this pandemic, they will avoid the virus while in prison, most importantly there are no relatives or families visiting prisoners at all so there is no physical contact with them. if most government policies can release prisoners during a pandemic, I don't think this will reduce the problem but instead add to the problem because of course they will repeat the same mistakes after breathing in fresh air

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Of course I am with humanity for all people, even for prisoners. In the end, they are people and made some mistakes and they are held accountable and spend their sentences in prison, so it is humanity for the government and prison administration to provide the health conditions and equipment necessary to combat the Corona virus or others for prisoners.
Also, governments should not forget that infecting prisoners with a pandemic will be a disaster because the prison is a very suitable environment for the spread of the epidemic, so if this happens it will extend outside the prison and it will be difficult to control it.
I think the United Nations and the World Health Organization should intervene with governments to address such humanitarian situations that could cause a major disaster.

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Quote from: BADecker on July 21, 2020, 05:44:51 PM

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I don't quite understand you. So it turns out that a huge number of people serving time in prisons should not be there because of irregularities in the conduct of trials? Is that why they should be released?

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Actually there is a hot issues in my country because there are high profile inmates that dies in maximum security prison in my country where the infamous inmates resides. There is really fishy for many people especially for netizens because we are sure that they break. It is like the next season of Prison break because for sure they manage to escape the maximum security compound. It is just a conspiracy but for me they really not die because they have power and influence in many people due to their past job which is a "drug lord"

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1309104/covid-19-kills-9-high-profile-inmates

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 21, 2020, 10:34:25 AM

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It is sad to know that there people who can afford not to care for somebody. I feel pity for them. Theybare also human who needs to treated fairly. They may disobey the law that is why they are in there but we mist not forget them or let them become expose to any virus. The authority must be responsible not to let just one person get the virus because it will more difficult if all prisons get sick. It will cost more.

So you think it would be better if the convicts walked free just to avoid putting their lives in danger?

In my opinion, it is very dangerous, because in this case law-abiding citizens will be in danger.

The reason to let the convicts go free is this. All trials of people are required to have these basic 4 foundation aspects to them:
1. An accuser;
2. The accused;
3. Some kind of actual damage or harm in evidence;
4. At least one witness besides the accuser.

Roughly 90% of convictions don't have the accuser testifying on the stand, and maybe not even in court that day. Or there is no connection between the damage (if there even is any) and the accused. Or there is no additional witness. Circumstantial evidence for a conviction, when used without a witness, is against the law.

While many convicts are guilty, they have been found guilty in an improper court of law. This makes the law people just as guilty, or more-so.

Let the convicts go free. Besides, prisons have herd immunity that the convicts can spread among us all.

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