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Topic: Coronavirus & Procedures Just Make me Cringe. (Read 482 times)

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Many people have died of the Coronavirus  These reports don't really make it a cringe  The price is increasing daily  In today's news  I saw more deaths in China than in Italy. on the average quite 400 people are dying a day  nobody has the facility to regulate it already  and therefore the doctor is dead.
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10,031 -> 11,272 Deaths in 1 day



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Chinese patients in hospitals received oxygen thats about it.

The virus attaches to the lower part of the respiratory system, having that extra o2 could be the difference between having enough time to fight it off, or die.
And life supporting stuff can be provided, o2 for breathing, drugs to speed up the heart or slow it down, an organ in need of support, etc.
While it doesn't directly fix the initial problem, it may be that edge difference, where you don't cross the critical point and survive.

The point is, once the health care system becomes overwhelmed, then only a tiny fraction gets access to anything at all like o2.
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Has anybody actually died from the virus? All the reports I read seem to indicate they have died from secondary infections, or underlying health problems, and most of those seem to have been caused by hospitalisation, or bad medical treatment.
No they die form the COVID-10 disease. Same with HIV no-one ever died form it, millions died from Aids.
In Bitcoin terms viruses work like 51% attack on the body. If fit and no prior medical issues the immune system will have enough time to get organized and deal with the situation. If existing health issues exist the virus has a larger base to start with and together they my get upper hand and get over the barrier, from then on is only a matter of time until death. Some have  health issues they not aware of, undiagnosed or malnutrition Vitamin C deficiency...
From diagnosis to death is about 2-3 days, if still kicking strong after that time changes are all be ok, of-course there are exceptions.
To stick a oxygen mask on is the main cure in hospitals, antioxidants (Vitamin C) is another.
A virus cant be killed as its not alive to start with, the host makes more of them.

The main reason the spanish flu was so devastation was the fact it did have a massive base to start from. Lots of horses and solders crammed in small space, on ships by the time they arrived lots where infected then spread all over the country.

Edit, just in:
Shanghai Government Officially Recommends Vitamin C for COVID-19
https://humansarefree.com/2020/03/shanghai-government-officially-recommends-vitamin-c-for-covid-19.html
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Has anybody actually died from the virus? All the reports I read seem to indicate they have died from secondary infections, or underlying health problems, and most of those seem to have been caused by hospitalisation, or bad medical treatment.
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Factors that others don't consider in morality:

1) Not cases/death it's cases/death-(Lag to diagnoise) -Main post explains it better.

2) Once the medical system becomes overwhelmed, the early birds received top-tier medical care, later ones don't get access to it. Increasing morality rate higher.



3) The surgeon/doctor parents died because of the coronavirus. Jee, do you think the doctor will be performing up to par? you'd be lucky to even get a doctor in the first place.





Doctor cant do all that much, its a virus after all and not some bacteria or other nastie.
Chinese patients in hospitals received oxygen thats about it. Most Chinese used traditional remedies and Vitamin C and D (sun)

Dr. Luc Montagnier ( the discoverer) of HIV, Proper Nutrition and antioxidants. Vitamin C is one the most powerful antioxidants in nature.
https://youtu.be/XSSpoFq7uhM?t=61

French Professor is of the opinion a common used drug for malaria also works for COVID
Director of the "Institut Méditerranée Infection" in Marseille, France Didier Raoult,
https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/sante/la-chloroquine-est-elle-un-bon-traitement-contre-le-coronavirus_141893

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Factors that others don't consider in morality:

1) Not cases/death it's cases/death-(Lag to diagnoise) -Main post explains it better.

2) Once the medical system becomes overwhelmed, the early birds received top-tier medical care, later ones don't get access to it. Increasing morality rate higher.



3) The surgeon/doctor parents died because of the coronavirus. Jee, do you think the doctor will be performing up to par? you'd be lucky to even get a doctor in the first place.




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How many people die depends a lot on age, existing illnesses and country.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53979841
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I don't think this is the only way to stop it because we can easily become aware of the virus information and there are times that there are many ways to heal without just washing your hands, which is why we do not know why observing and practicing different places make the process a cringe. You need to be aware of them.
Aware of them doesn't stop you from getting affected.Its easily getting transferred in the air which is the serious issue why everyone gets afraid of it.3% of people died from total infected and if more people affects means there will be lack of medical support so the mortality might get increases to 10% or 50%?

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I just don't think people realize how serious this is...



It can appear to slow down, and seem like it won't be bad at all. And comparisons like it's only 0.001% of the world, etc. 3000 Deaths is such a fraction compared to the flu, etc.

But everyone is tricked by several factors:

1) Scale of effort reach a certain point say where you can't go beyond 10.

2) Scale of effort scales along with the chart, creating a stagnant appearing graph, where the line seems to go ever so slightly up. If you can scale the effort faster then the virus and keep it below critical point, you can resolve it, collapsing it to zero. Think like a black hole, and the event horizon, go at the speed of light, you can escape, but at some point you reach the critical point where light can't escape.

3) At some point you cross the critical threshold, and scale of effort reaches a max point. Where, it will then begin to go up very fast, and can become extremely dangerous very quickly.

We are beyond the critical point



And society hinges on small branches. You block a couple truck of vital supplies to a city, and suddenly it's low in stock.

The following things to come:

1) The medical system will become overwhelmed - Increasing morality rate as you don't have top tier medical treatment
2) Everyone will panic via mass hysteria, stores will be empty/low in cans, waters, and other supplies. Look at Italy, the store became completely empty when everyone panicked to the store.
3) Most if not all will be wearing masks. Do you want to go to a store with infected surfaces, sick people, and so on? A reason for some to be hoarding to stay at home and prepare for long-term.
4) Chaos is a possibility

Watch as our civilization, and our lavish life begin to crumble before your eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if there is, martial law, control-order, mass riots, panics, over whelmed medical systems.

Frankly I do not know where this will go.

Lets look into the future.

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I think most of the hype about the virus is overhyped and only a way for the media to distract viewers from watching or monitoring real news or agendas. We should be careful about our habits like washing hands etc, but people wearing masks all the time? Really sad...
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It is just a common flue people... Hmmm, never saw any carantene for flue.  Huh
You looked in wrong place
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53898245
or
https://youtu.be/rw4z-rSwNjY?t=881
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It is just a common flue people... Hmmm, never saw any carantene for flue.  Huh
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Pop open the champagne bottle, for we are about to surpass 100,000 cases  Smiley

Grab me one corona beer as well  Wink



No... GET AWAY FROM ME.  Angry  Let me enjoy my beer in peace!
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Please, can someone point out, a mathematician, a person with a brain? To WHO?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/world/coronavirus-news.html



I mean like...  They are literally taking cases and dividing them by death 3204/93574=0.034 = 3.4%.

Cases go up, death go up. If you put 50,000 cases in a dome and there are 500 deaths at day 3. Assuming no more cases.
And by day 14 all recovered but there is 2500 deaths. Morality rate is not 1%, its 5%. So if the number locked at 93574, but death climbed up into all resolved. That would be the truth morality rate.

Why are so many doing this?



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Remember, when I said the procedures in California was a joke at the hotel, letting people outside where children were playing? Again I saw this much before the OP post date. Considering the incubation period can be above 14 days, and you can show no virus for two weeks, and show it...

https://nypost.com/2020/02/26/coronavirus-outbreak-first-case-of-unknown-origin-reported-in-california/

Patient with ‘unknown’ origin reported in California

There have been other cases on remote locations with no tourist and only locals and someone got infected.
This attack has not claimed more life's than 911. It is a fabricated virus, using a Bat virus as base and a cocktail of others mixed in.

There a several entities who say that the world is overpopulated and the can do a real good job to do something about. Bill Gates is one of them, the financier of the Georgia Guidestones (Ted Turner) another.

So about 9,500,000 people died this year, lets say (cough) 3000 from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.031%.
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