Topic: CORRECTING THE NEWBIES' MISCONCEPTION: High Rankers Are Not Bullies. - page 2. (Read 446 times)

Op, this is what I have to tell you, the forum you see here is like every other online platform where you have different people from different part of the world. You may read different meaning to the comments of someone who has no bad intentions towards you and feel insulted that's why you need to prepare your mind and develop a thick skin here if you want to remain here as they will always say

The forum has rules and regulations I believe if the comments of any high rank member(s) is found breaking the rules such person will be punished accordingly but if any newbie is being bullied by a follow member of the forum it is either you take their comments to be too personal otherwise you just need to ignore the comments and scroll pass it. Get yourself busy and increase your knowledge then watch yourself become a high rank member soon but don't get me twisted, even the high rank members face same challenges here but they understand how to handle things differently.

How I have managed to navigate through the forum and remain at peace with myself and others is to assume that everyone will not be like me so I try as much as I can to accommodate different characters, opinion, approach and even temperaments. I rarely pick offense because I already prepared my mind that I will meet different people with different ways of reasoning and handling issues. Anyone who have not come to this realization might be frustrated by some characters exhibited by some people in this forum. The good thing is that here will be more fun when we see those diversities than when everyone is behaving normal. Sincerely, I missed the days of drama of Digaran who was famous for his peculiar way of handling things that rarely align with a lot of people.

Any member who is not willing to be corrected is proud and might not be able to learn. Learners will always make mistakes and correction should be accepted without feeling bad. There is a saying that you always correct who you love. The reason why you are corrected is because people want to grow. So I accept your position that corrections are part of the process of gaining a reputation.


People will always say what they feel about a particular situation. This is a public forum and it also gives everyone including newbies to express how to feel and you can't stop that. If you think their comments are annoying, your only option is to ignore them. As much as they are not breaking any rules in the forum, you cannot silence them.

There is nothing wrong about constructive criticism or corrections but sincerely, there are some comments that are mean and aren't in the category of correction and it will be more than great we call a spade a spade when we come across them. That someone is a newbie doesn't mean they should accept and not speak out against what doesn't rightfully appear to be a correction. Except we're now in the military ground (where whatever a high ranking officer says or does is right), and not a forum.

However, newbies should endeavor to have a teachable attitude to sieve and digest that which is able to grow their knowledge in the forum. Howbeit, correction shouldn't be confined to newbies alone, in as much as high rankers would want to correct newbies they should likewise be open to corrections from newbies too in order to create a balance as no single body is an encyclopedia. Learning isn't designed to come from top to bottom alone.

To correct is one thing, to insult is another. You don't have to humiliate somebody to guide him/her or to teach him/her a lesson. Although it may be true that there is a misconception, it also true that there are high rank members here who prefer to be rude rather than accommodating, who prefer to stuff lessons in offensive remarks rather than provide them plain and simple.

But, yeah, this is the online universe. There's no point being overly emotional here. Anybody can freely speak online regardless of whether their statements could come off as offensive or not. Social media and public forums like this one are probably not a good place for the onion-skinned.

Until now, I got the impression that all "Newbies" who complain about high-ranked members and refer to various gangs are not complete newcomers when we refer to the Bitcointalk forum. These are most likely users who have already been banned for some reason or whose reputation has been tarnished due to a red tag.

Merit and the DT system are quite specific to this forum, so all complaints about that part cannot come from someone completely new here.

I should've added some links, I've encountered them in multiple occasions, hence the reason I was motivated/inspired to create this thread, I'll see if I can get hold of some threads where I've seen stuffs like this and I'll add them to the post for you can see for yourself.

Mind you, I'm not saying all newbies and low rankers are like that, no,  I believe I clearly stated SOME, and I've seen and witnessed these SOME.

I never stated that newbies picked offence unprovoked or for not reason. The major reason I believe most newbies feel that way could be due to low self esteem and/or inferiority complex, when you've got either of both as a newbie in a community as vast as this, even when the High ranker has the purest of intentions to simply correct you, he'll misunderstand their intention and misinterprete every single word they say.

I literally bumped into a thread where a newbie was saying all manner of shits to a high ranker and in his defence, the high ranker was bullying him, and when I went through the conversation, there was absolutely nothing the High ranker said that would've warranted such a reaction.

Cases like the one you mentioned in Op happen very rarely, beginners or those with a low rank are always open to any correction from members with a higher rank than them. This is a place to receive mutual corrections. At certain times there are also low ranking members correcting mistakes made by high ranking members.
Every member who wants to develop and continues to try to broaden their knowledge while on the forum will always be ready for corrections from other members. If you adopt the formula, never look at who is advising you or correcting every mistake you make, but focus on what he says, then you will quickly develop because you are always open and humble and ready to accept everything that can increase your knowledge.

All you've said is totally you, but I've come to understand that (not just in this forum alone) some people have the habit of always believing they're right all the time and even when they make certain mistakes, they don't even realize they've made mistakes and when someone of the same status with them tries to correct them, they term them as "know it all"  and simply ignore their advice, and when someone of higher status does the same thing, they term them as being authoritative or bullies or intimidating.

I've seen such scenarios multiple times, Hence the reason I created this thread, I kinda noticed this when ibwqs still a newbie, and it has been on my mind to create a thread for it.

When my account got registered on this forum and I started posting, I noticed many of my posts were corrected, but I listen and even asked for advice from well report members. Since I know about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, I have always been researching online about bitcoin which is also another what was good about me. So they know I wanted to learn more as I was posting what I researched on which also earned me merits and reputation. It is important to learn about bitcoin, cryptocurrencies and post on boards of interests. But about listening to corrections, it is very important also but it is good to learn and contribute.

We are not living in a utopia.

Let's call a spade a spade. Some so called high-ranking members of the forums are bullies and we know it. We don't need to act like there is none. And even some so called low-ranking members are bullies too but are yet to exhibit it. Bullying can occur at any level, and we must be prepared to deal with it. It is the world we live in and every individual has to grow some thick skin or like some folks would say it, they have to grow some fucking balls.

High ranking members are not gods they are just there because they happen to be here before the low-ranking members. Nothing more. Also low ranking members shouldn't expect that anyone will talk to them nicely just like their mothers would. This is not a cozy family gathering, it’s a diverse community.

My message to everyone, regardless of rank, is to use the "ignore" button if you feel bullied. If the situation affects your mental health, consider taking a break from the forum. Remember, life exists beyond this forum.

Let me put this in a real life senerio:
As a little baby, you make little mistakes, and your mommy and daddy help you understand what you did wrong. If you listen to them, you won't make those mistakes again. But if you don't listen, you might make even bigger mistakes and grow up thinking it's okay!

It's the same here on BitcoinTalk. If the big guys (highranked members) help the little kids (newbies) by pointing out their mistakes, the little kids should listen and learn. Then, when they become big kids themselves, they can help the little kids too. The her rank people are here to help us as newbies to understand. If they don't answer us, we will never get to learn.

As much as I don't subscribe to newbies being overly looked down on and old forum members not having tolerance for every other ranked member of the forum, we must understand our knowledge gap and create an atmosphere of mutual tolerance amongst the different ranks in the forum.

You can't outrightly paint the narrative as though newbies generally pick offense for no reason and easily get angry when they are being corrected. Some old forum members speak and approach most newbies in a demeaning manner and they might not be mature enough to cope with some of those here and might feel a bit bad but that's never to ask that they exit the forum if they can't cope with such heat.

We all at one point or the other were newbies not just concerning the forum but in the crypto space generally, some of the newbies on the forum have been active in the crypto space for a long time but didn't join the forum early enough and when some of them air their view, you tend to see questions like, How come to a newbie has this kind of knowledge? which might go on to discourage them. Even for those who are new both to the forum and the crypto space, it's best to accept their weaknesses and help them grow and gain knowledge the right way and not focus too much on their weaknesses.  

This is one of those topics that almost everyone tends to overanalyze and overcomplicate.

YOU DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO ANY "HIGH RANKERS" OR WHATEVER. JUST EDUCATE YOURSELF.

If you know a good amount about Bitcoin/crypto, you will very likely rank up because you will be contributing non-spam replies to topics. If you don't know crap about Bitcoin/crypto, it will easily show because you're likely to just end up posting crap or rehash previous replies; hence you not ranking up.

It's that simple!!!

Trust me — most of the high ranks today(that actually earned sMerit, not just those airdropped merits back then) didn't spend their day "studying high rankers" or whatever the fuck that is. They studied BITCOIN.

I don't see a problem with newbies being aggressive or ignoring advice. Every high ranking member of this forum started as a newbie and went through the same stages to get where they are today. Some listened to advice from higher ranking members and quickly moved up the ranks. Others ignored the advice and stayed at the lower ranks. What we need to understand is that this forum is a public space, and no one's criticism can hurt us personally. We have two choices. [¹]listen, make friends, and move up the ranks, or [²]be aggressive, make enemies, and go nowhere. We learn from our mistakes when someone corrects us. If no one corrects us when we're wrong, we might get the wrong idea and never learn.

As one of the low-ranking members of this honourable Bitcointalk community, I've noticed a very disturbing trend. Newbies and other low ranked members are constantly taking offense when a High ranked member tries to correct their mistakes or offer guidance and it's so fucking annoying when I bump into such threads where a newbie or other low ranked members claim to be bullied or constantly picked on. They seem to think that their feedback is a personal attack, rather than a genuine attempt to help them improve.

I wish to make it pretty clear to us, being a high ranker isn't easy. They've worked so hard to earn their status, and they know what it takes to succeed. So Whenever they offer feedback, it's not because they're trying to bully or intimidate us. It's because we want to see others succeed, so I personally view newbies making such claims of being bullied by a High ranker as the greatest aspect of disrespect and this misconceived idea needs to be corrected.

Instead of appreciating the guidance of the High rankers, newbies often get defensive and accusatory. They claim they're being "bullying" or that they're being "too harsh". Newsflash mates, constructive criticism isn't bullying. It's called growth.

If we newbies can't handle a little bit of criticism, then maybe we're not really cut out for this online community thing. The High Rankers are not here to coddle fragile egos or hold hands. They are just here to give their experience and knowledge to us for us to gain from, and use the knowledge to groom ourselves, enhance our skills and strive to be the best.

So, newbies, listen up: if you cannot stand the heat, then get out from the kitchen. And high rankers, keep doing what you're doing because y'all are making a difference, one correction at a time and your efforts are very much acknowledged and appreciated.

Let's all be guided.