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October 24, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
#7
if it costs you $350 in electric to make a bitcoin you are seriously stupid to sell for $200... you might aswell not mine and be $150 better off..

the thing is that while smart miners are trading privately behind the scenes for cost prices, alot of them have given up even caring about public exchanges and thus the trade volume of public exchanges has dropped 90% since last year.

but stupid, noobs and sheeple still think that public exchanges that now only play with bots and day traders of small dust amounts, being the valuer of bitcoin.

this is not the case, the crappy public exchanges are dying and should not be the indicator of true value.. public exchanges are just the stirring caldron of the day traders, stirring coins in circles and pretending the exchange value has true 'supply/demand' value.

anyone with just 200 coins can tank or pump a public exchange and send the entire market cap from $4billion either to $3billion or upto $5billion.

once people ignore public exchanges to value their coins and instead only sell coins based on their personal costs of mining or buying.. then the sheeple will become whales



I reckon the best way to determine the current price of bitcoin is to see how much it costs to produce 1 bitcoin at any given time. Not to say that the cost of production determines the price, its more of an indicator of what people are willing to pay at that time.

I agree, there is manipulation on most bitcoin exchanges because its just so easy to do.
legendary
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October 24, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
#6
if it costs you $350 in electric to make a bitcoin you are seriously stupid to sell for $200... you might aswell not mine and be $150 better off..

the thing is that while smart miners are trading privately behind the scenes for cost prices, alot of them have given up even caring about public exchanges and thus the trade volume of public exchanges has dropped 90% since last year.

but stupid, noobs and sheeple still think that public exchanges that now only play with bots and day traders of small dust amounts, being the valuer of bitcoin.

this is not the case, the crappy public exchanges are dying and should not be the indicator of true value.. public exchanges are just the stirring caldron of the day traders, stirring coins in circles and pretending the exchange value has true 'supply/demand' value.

anyone with just 200 coins can tank or pump a public exchange and send the entire market cap from $4billion either to $3billion or upto $5billion.

once people ignore public exchanges to value their coins and instead only sell coins based on their personal costs of mining or buying.. then the sheeple will become whales

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October 24, 2014, 02:16:30 PM
#5
Of course there is a cost to producing (mining) Bitcoin.  I read an article a month or two back when the price was hovering around $480 that calculated the actual cost of producing one Bitcoin at $480.  The calculation took into consideration the cost of energy and the depreciation of hardware.

It seems that either there are some miners out there that have since lowered their costs significantly, or people are selling at a loss.

In reality there definitely are other factors though and not only miners control the price.
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October 24, 2014, 02:10:03 PM
#4
cost of production is irrelevant imo, it is the value that the people put into bitcoin or crypto that matters. value is determined by the people who use and accept it, not by how much it cost to generate the currency into existence
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October 24, 2014, 02:05:52 PM
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People are willing to pay money, therefore they are worth money.

Yeah i guess its just people trying to pump and convince people that bitcoin is superior to the rest. (specifically POS, dpos currencies)

Demand determines production cost when we are talking bitcoin.
legendary
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October 24, 2014, 01:57:46 PM
#2
People are willing to pay money, therefore they are worth money.
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October 24, 2014, 01:54:40 PM
#1
So some people claim that coins are worthless if the cost of production is near zero. Other people claim that it doesn't matter what the cost to producing a coin is as there are other factors that determine the price.

What are your opinions?
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