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Topic: could ripple be the new bitcoin and go up in value? (Read 3462 times)

legendary
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Monero Core Team
I do not see Ripple as a competitor to Bitcoin. It does have the potential to become a competitor to Swift http://www.swift.com.

The very recent events including the settlement agreement with the US Government. http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/05/05/settlement_agreement.pdf is a must read for anyone considering purchasing Ripple or for that matter any premined, ICO, IPO etc coin. In particular the following quote from Appendix A is critical.

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3. The currency of the Ripple network, known as "XRP" was pre-mined. In other words, unlike some other virtual currencies,  XRP was fully generated prior to its distribution. As of 2015, XRP is the second-largest crypto currency by market capitalization, after Bitcoin.  

By the way, The conclusion I see here is that pre-mine = MSB. As for insta-mine and ninja-mine coins whether or not this leads to the MSB designation could easily require an army of lawyers to figure out.
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
could ripple be the new bitcoin and go up in value?

Ripple as a 'protocol' is gone.  Sell.
sr. member
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Photon --- The First Child Of Blake Coin --Merged
ripple is a 100% premined scam started by the same person who started mt gox

my personal belief is it is a scam

legendary
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I'm not really into Ripple anymore to be fully honest. A lot of the trustability has gone over the last year and the supply keeps increasing and they keep trying to keep there momentum up but as you notice keep failing at it too .. I personally keep out of ripple and just got my stakes in BTC mainly and NXT too. My 2 bets I hold on !

Did you consider Nem (Xem) New Economy Movement which is an improved version of NXT?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.new#new

Must you really spam every thread with your NEM bullshit? I don't go to nem threads shilling my bags. My advice to readers is avoid this shit like the plague.
sr. member
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It doesn't rhyme with cripple for no reason.

Clue us in! Is it Its spelling?
legendary
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It doesn't rhyme with cripple for no reason.
full member
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I'm not really into Ripple anymore to be fully honest. A lot of the trustability has gone over the last year and the supply keeps increasing and they keep trying to keep there momentum up but as you notice keep failing at it too .. I personally keep out of ripple and just got my stakes in BTC mainly and NXT too. My 2 bets I hold on !

Did you consider Nem (Xem) New Economy Movement which is an improved version of NXT?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.new#new
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
100,000,000,000 XRP were created at the outset of the network, by its founders, and portion of those were gifted to Ripple Labs. Here is an explanation of why that total specific number of XRP units was chosen. No new XRP can ever be created, and the total supply constantly decreases---as small portion of XRP are destroyed with every transaction.

Many have been confused on this topic, due to how Ripple is represented on sites like coinmarketcap.com. Available supply has increased over time, as Ripple Labs continues to distribute its XRP holdings, but total supply has only ever decreased. Calculating market capitalization according to available supply of XRP is in some ways similar to calculating Bitcoin market cap according to mined Bitcoins, as opposed to the total number that will ever be mined. Initially, coinmarketcap.com calculated XRP market cap according to total supply and received criticism that the number was misleading, since it did not represent the total number of XRP potentially available at market.

lol, its giving it away for free to banks by the millions with a clause that they can not dump instantly in an exchange to publicly state that they will support it. suckers can buy them at an hyper-inflated price. this clause also completely warps the "available" supply and fight over a very small amount of coins nowhere near the stated available supply on coinmarketcap. in endeffect the have the same power as a bank it the close shop your done.
technicaly it should not be listed on cmc, but he they are just another receiver of free gifted coins, eager to dispose of.
there is no reason to go up in value as the coin is not really needed by ripple laps.
no xrp is needed to go from fiat to bitcoin to frequent flyer points or to whatever else.
bitcoin needs miners, ripple needs fish to bite the fishers o so tasty worm.


I am not advocating investment in XRP, nor suggesting any certainty exists XRP will rise in value. I am hoping to help inform.

Ripple has a lot of potential that is overlooked, due to widespread misunderstanding. It damages the community to ignore Ripple in its entirety---when other systems may be able to benefit from its core tech and concepts. If anyone finds Ripple Labs or Ripple implementation specific details troublesome, then they are free to improve upon its ideas and technology in alignment with their own values. Fork the github repo.

Here is information that may help others understand the bridge-currency role of XRP:


XRP is also used to prevent transaction spam. It accomplishes this by way of a requirement that all transactions include a small fee. Individual Validator load is used to dynamically adjust that fee. If a user attempts to crash the network by sending millions of transactions, the cost becomes prohibitive. Neither Validators nor Ripple Labs receive the fee; the associated XRP are destroyed. Many use postage stamps as an analogy.

In addition, XRP is used to prevent ledger bloat. Entries to the ledger require a specific number of XRP. If the entry is removed from the ledger, then the XRP are returned to the user. An end result is that ledger bloat attacks on the network---say an actor attempting to flood an order book with millions of bids or forming millions of trust lines---also quickly becomes cost prohibitive.

In line with the last 2 points, XRP provides a vital security function for the network.

It may surprise you that financial institutions are generally not interested in holding XRP. Instead, they are attracted to Ripple for the core functionality it provides for solving existing problems, and those problems have nothing to do with XRP. International transfers are the current leading use case.

My opinion is that building something of lasting value on the Ripple network is the best Ripple investment anyone could make, as opposed to speculative currency investment---and I believe that is true of all cryptocurrencies. CrossCoin Ventures startup accelerator offers up to $50,000 equivalent of XRP value for funding, and has no requirement that focus be Ripple exclusive. LibraTax is a solid example.

RippleWorks has also now launched, as of last week, with $60 million in funding to help facilitate social change.
sr. member
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I couldn't wrap my head around Ripple (didn't try too hard either), but more recently I was thinking about it. I've come to the conclusion that it's sort of a hedge to my bet on Bitcoin in way. They both compliment each other actually and Ripple adoption will add a ton of value to Bitcoin, but considering that Ripple is not quite as much of a threat to banks, I can see it being adopted by mainstream finance more easily. Let's face it, the Blockchain is out of the bag and things will definitely change, but there is more than one path things can go. Ripple seems like a slightly less threatening system for banks because it allows them to transition more smoothly. What I mean is that Ripple allows for the transfer of fiat, gold, btc, etc. Following my thinking, yes I believe Ripple will go up in value MUCH more.

This is a good article on understanding Ripple I found:

http://www.coindesk.com/ripple-medieval-banking-digital-twist/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ripple-explained-for-bitcoiners-211068
tyz
legendary
Activity: 3360
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Ripple is one of the most present Alts in media and news. That is a big advantage. Further it has some wellknown venture capitalists on board which have good connections into old economy. It is definetely ahead compared to the most coins.
sr. member
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Merit: 297
Bitcoin © Maximalist
I don't think so.
Ripple coin supply keeps increasing.
I don't think it will be as successful as bitcoin if its supply keep increasing rapidly.


100,000,000,000 XRP were created at the outset of the network, by its founders, and portion of those were gifted to Ripple Labs. Here is an explanation of why that total specific number of XRP units was chosen. No new XRP can ever be created, and the total supply constantly decreases---as small portion of XRP are destroyed with every transaction.

Many have been confused on this topic, due to how Ripple is represented on sites like coinmarketcap.com. Available supply has increased over time, as Ripple Labs continues to distribute its XRP holdings, but total supply has only ever decreased. Calculating market capitalization according to available supply of XRP is in some ways similar to calculating Bitcoin market cap according to mined Bitcoins, as opposed to the total number that will ever be mined. Initially, coinmarketcap.com calculated XRP market cap according to total supply and received criticism that the number was misleading, since it did not represent the total number of XRP potentially available at market.

lol, its giving it away for free to banks by the millions with a clause that they can not dump instantly in an exchange to publicly state that they will support it. suckers can buy them at an hyper-inflated price. this clause also completely warps the "available" supply and fight over a very small amount of coins nowhere near the stated available supply on coinmarketcap. in endeffect the have the same power as a bank it the close shop your done.
technicaly it should not be listed on cmc, but he they are just another receiver of free gifted coins, eager to dispose of.
there is no reason to go up in value as the coin is not really needed by ripple laps.
no xrp is needed to go from fiat to bitcoin to frequent flyer points or to whatever else.
bitcoin needs miners, ripple needs fish to bite the fishers o so tasty worm.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
I'm not really into Ripple anymore to be fully honest. A lot of the trustability has gone over the last year and the supply keeps increasing and they keep trying to keep there momentum up but as you notice keep failing at it too .. I personally keep out of ripple and just got my stakes in BTC mainly and NXT too. My 2 bets I hold on !
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Frankly speaking, I was expecting Ripple to break $1B market cap when it was at it's peak, but I'm now quite sure that it will do it. Ripple is not like a coin with billions in supply so don't make the mistake to compare it with DOGE or such. Smiley We are talking about something different here. I believe that people involved in it know what they are doing (despite that I don't even bothered to research it... I was only following the market).

Anyone wanting a deeper dive should check out xrptalk.org. Ripple has an incredibly knowledgeable and friendly community, with a lot of diverse perspectives on both cryptocurrency and the general industry. A few Ripple Labs team members post regularly, with contributions spanning both technical and general topics. Exciting time to get involved  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1960
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@FAILCommunity
Frankly speaking, I was expecting Ripple to break $1B market cap when it was at it's peak, but I'm now quite sure that it will do it. Ripple is not like a coin with billions in supply so don't make the mistake to compare it with DOGE or such. Smiley We are talking about something different here. I believe that people involved in it know what they are doing (despite that I don't even bothered to research it... I was only following the market).
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
I don't think so.
Ripple coin supply keeps increasing.
I don't think it will be as successful as bitcoin if its supply keep increasing rapidly.


100,000,000,000 XRP were created at the outset of the network, by its founders, and portion of those were gifted to Ripple Labs. Here is an explanation of why that total specific number of XRP units was chosen. No new XRP can ever be created, and the total supply constantly decreases---as small portion of XRP are destroyed with every transaction.

Many have been confused on this topic, due to how Ripple is represented on sites like coinmarketcap.com. Available supply has increased over time, as Ripple Labs continues to distribute its XRP holdings, but total supply has only ever decreased. Calculating market capitalization according to available supply of XRP is in some ways similar to calculating Bitcoin market cap according to mined Bitcoins, as opposed to the total number that will ever be mined. Initially, coinmarketcap.com calculated XRP market cap according to total supply and received criticism that the number was misleading, since it did not represent the total number of XRP potentially available at market.
legendary
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could ripple be the new bitcoin and go up in value?

its just not bitcoin, its some other random thing not associated much really.
legendary
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It can not be the new bitcoin, and it never intended to be. Anyway, banks are like it, so I expect it to slowly gain traction as a money transfer method and go up in value. (But I wouldn't expect such sky-rocketing what we seen from BTC in 2013.)
sr. member
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No! Impossible! Ripple is centralized and controlled by ripple lab, whose concept is different from bitcoin! Its gateway is based on trust! If it runs away, the users, who save money on the gateway, will lose all the money!
legendary
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I don't think so.
Ripple coin supply keeps increasing.
I don't think it will be as successful as bitcoin if its supply keep increasing rapidly.
full member
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Merit: 100
The news about Western Union certainly can't hurt it. I'm sure that it will have a positive effect on the price.
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