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legendary
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It has been years since the start of war between Russia and Ukraine, and i almost forgot what its impact to the bitcoin. I remember correctly Bitcoin dumped so hard as many feel scared about the rumor of WW3 triggered by the war from Russia and Ukraine.

Years passed and the impact from the war to the Bitcoin is almost nothing. So i think the talk between Trump and Putin does small impact to the Bitcoin.

 

The war has been going on for too long and the market has adapted to it. So if the war gets worse then it won't affect the market but if there is any positive news then it will have a significant impact on the market.
Even though we no longer feel the impact of the war but in reality, it is still causing instability in the world economy. Meanwhile, the market is significantly impacted by the economy so once the instability is resolved, this will impact the markets. So the outcome of the dialogue between the two presidents is very important.

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However,  we can't really sure if Russia will let Ukraine to join NATO, but hopefully it's gonna happen soon.

According to some news, I believe that an agreement to end the war will be reached soon but I do not think that Ukraine will be able to join NATO. Even Trump opposes the idea, let alone Russia agreeing.
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Don't you think if the talk becomes successful, this may also have impact on bitcoin adoption and market price!

Please this is not a political discussion, that is why am not taking it politics a d society board, but we are considering the possible influence from this on bitcoin, just as there have been expectations for the market to reach $150,000 and we needed a major event to make this possible.

Maybe we could get to ATH as a result, if turned a positive one, what's your take, let's discuss.
It would of course contribute to the green lightening on Bitcoin price. Believe it that some of the European countries are being diabolical to the adoption of Bitcoin knowing quite their geopolitical differences with the US influencing them since there had been disputes between the mighty Russia while the US dominates them with the world leading power.

If the discussion successfully becomes a dialogue, there would be interceptions to encourage wider adoptions not just the European countries but also the Asians in affiliation with the Russian geopolitical and economical systems.

Peace is actually priceless and could bring developments and stabilities to normalize economy systems.
We know politics also has part to play on the values of Bitcoin so even if anyone has to have a political view on this impact it should not still be underemined.


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There could be impact on bitcoin positive or negative depending on what the conversation leads to but in this discussion it will only have to touch bitcoin when any demand from both party is made having to mention bitcoin in it hence we can expect a pump but if it has nothing to do with bitcoin but the discussion ends in peace for both Ukraine and Russia it could also impact on the economy generally which bitcoin is not excluded.

If the conversation is negative then it could influence the market badly and we could see more downtrend during that period but if they have a positive conversation then it would influence an upsurge and further draw the next bull run closer, just like when Trump won we saw Bitcoin move up earlier than expected and we could witness that again after Trumps meeting with Putin.

 Well I think there would be a positive outcome from the meeting cause Donald Trumps government is not ready to spend much on wars, America has spends billion in funding Ukraine war and I think that's something the Donald Trump's government won't tolerate, he's already advice Netanyahu on a seize fir in the middle east war I believe he'll want same in Ukraine.
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There could be impact on bitcoin positive or negative depending on what the conversation leads to but in this discussion it will only have to touch bitcoin when any demand from both party is made having to mention bitcoin in it hence we can expect a pump but if it has nothing to do with bitcoin but the discussion ends in peace for both Ukraine and Russia it could also impact on the economy generally which bitcoin is not excluded.
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legendary
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I dont see how its closely related to Bitcoin when we are talking about ego and politics here mostly.  Putin wants to end the war no doubt but his ego cannot allow the idea of not declaring some victory of any kind possible.   What Ukraine wants is still the basic idea of retaining the country they fought and paid for many times, I doubt that would be changing especially so does Trump alter the basic imbalance in that equation especially I dont see that.      If peace is a positive then we can suppose some positive for Bitcoin perhaps but its not normally something I would bring up as relevant directly, the first indirect effect is sanctions and energy prices as Russia is so gigantic in its resources.
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The war in Ukraine has contributed to several aspects that shape our society.

Energy is more expensive because Russia produces a lot of oil and Gas and these are used to produce energy. Since we need energy to run electricity it is now more expensive as well. Then also Grain is a lot more expensive because both Russia and Ukraine produce a lot of it. Ukraine has been decimated and divided in new de jure borders.

Also agriculture is a lot more expensive because we imported many fertilizers from Russia and many European countries imported tractors from Belarus

Being forced to endure sanctions against Russia has made every western citizen's life more difficult. If our politicians play their cards right, we could reduce inflation and make prices for basic good even go down from day 1 of a Russia - Ukraine ceasefire. But do you think they're actually going to lower prices? No. They'd just let their cronies profit even more.

So realistically speaking a ceasefire has the potential to make our lives better, but in reality it's going to be very hard because in the playbook of the plutocracy our lives as regular people can only get worse for their benefit and not better.

One less active war front would be nice on humanitarian grounds.
I for one feel very bad for my country sending armaments to a war front where hundreds of people are slaughtered every day while Ukraine fights an offensive war against Russia like they do in Kursk.
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I know Geopolitical is always driving the market to be up and down, but this is a different case now. However,  we can't really sure if Russia will let Ukraine to join NATO, but hopefully it's gonna happen soon.
Whatever is going to do for the good for both parties, it has to happen if they want to stop messing with people's flesh and blood. But you're right that some geopolitical issues do contribute to the market for several factors. If it's a good one, the market reacts swiftly and it becomes positively upward. But if the opposite, then expect that there will be slow down on the markets once again and things aren't going to be good for the longs in the market, they'll be liquidated soon enough.
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Don't you think if the talk becomes successful, this may also have impact on bitcoin adoption and market price!
Maybe we could get to ATH as a result, if turned a positive one, what's your take, let's discuss.

I think it will be good for the market because nobody likes or want wars, as war is bad both for the economy and for human life. The war has affected the market therefore if the wars stops, it will also have an effect and it will be a positive effect. But regardless of the war ending or not, it will not stop Bitcoin from reaching a new highest price soon. Donald Trump is going to end the war in Ukraine with his negotiation skills and the relationship he has with Russian president. This war should not have happened to begin with because the requirements to end the war is something all parties involved can come together and talk it out. The war is affecting all market therefore it needs to end and if it happens in 2025, it will be very good for the market.
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But talking of the impact of that talks on bitcoin value and market price it will be difficult to say at this point, but overall it will be a good development that can stabilize the global market.

We cant say what this may cause yet, because once it comes to the incidence of breaking news like this, we cant predict on what may comes in after it, but as e have always wanted, is that things go as planned such a way that it increases the chances of bitcoin market rise, because the overall world economy is going to feel this impact and it will definitely create a mark to reckon with on the market price on the long run.

Maybe there is no talk about bitcoin but talk about ending the Ukraine war, this could have an impact on the global economy which is stabilizing again, right?

Yeah I think this could affect the effect of bitcoin where the price could increase again, but not sure how serious the discussion of Trump and Putin is.

But clearly even if they never have talks anywhere then I would assume the price of bitcoin could go to $150K this year.

All we heard was about the talk, but we don't know in specific about what had been discussed, but whichever way it goes, once they  were both able to come into concession, then this is going to have an effect on the market provided that its such that contributes to the growth and development of the economy and the people.

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When the war started it had some level of impact in the bitcoin market, we can't deny that. And as a result of the war may economies of different countries has been suffering. Same way I believe that if the war between Russia and Ukraine should end today, it's definitely going to affect their price of bitcoin positively. As the tension in the region will cease and economic activities back to full scale in the war torn regions. And for bitcoin to exceed the speculated amount of $150k this year, the war between Russia and Ukraine has to end. The news of the war ending alone, can bring back the thick green candles in bitcoin market.
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I mean likely I guess? It's over all a positive trend type of news and I reckon seeing that we did have some market impact when the war started (and afaik, during some escalations of it), then it wouldn't be that far off. Plus if it were a success I reckon Trump would get a boost in terms of popularity and we all know how Trump has been affecting the market lately. Though I reckon between the two we'd still probably see more of an effect due to the latter than the former. I mean the wars been on going for so long really but the biggest impact was at the start. Recently? Nothing afaik, except for when something big occurs ofc.
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If the conversation even slightly touches on Bitcoin, and journalists have the opportunity to publish it, then the price of Bitcoin will undoubtedly go up. The talk about ending the war is unlikely to affect the growth of Bitcoin, especially since Trump intends to make his demands to Putin, which the latter is unlikely to agree to. At least, watching the news from both sides, I doubt that anyone is ready for a compromise.
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It has been years since the start of war between Russia and Ukraine, and i almost forgot what its impact to the bitcoin. I remember correctly Bitcoin dumped so hard as many feel scared about the rumor of WW3 triggered by the war from Russia and Ukraine.

Years passed and the impact from the war to the Bitcoin is almost nothing. So i think the talk between Trump and Putin does small impact to the Bitcoin.

I know Geopolitical is always driving the market to be up and down, but this is a different case now. However,  we can't really sure if Russia will let Ukraine to join NATO, but hopefully it's gonna happen soon.
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Since the USA under Biden administration has been a strong backbone to the Ukrainian government in this war with Russia and now same USA under Trump is now rather putting in efforts to end it then the war is surely going to end, no doubt.

I believe Putin would be more than glad to end this war as much as Zelensky for the sake of their people to experience serenity and peace because the past 2yrs+ has been hell for both sides, and in extension such talks for peace of thoughtfully achieved will profoundly have a positive effect on bitcoin and cryptocurrency market since it would be having some impact on Europe economy. This could be a great achievement for Trump administration and posterity would always remember him for it.
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The impact of geopolitical and economic factors, it plays a special role in seeing the price increase this year. Looking at the contents of the tweets on Twitter from the post above, I think the final direction is that the agreement to adopt Bitcoin will be born at the end of the agreement between the two heads of state. Yes. The public has melted with all this and wants to live normally.

If there would be stability by the end of it - most likely it will have good effects in the future.
But I highly doubt it - there is no incentive for it to happen in the near future, even in the long run too.
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The impact of geopolitical and economic factors, it plays a special role in seeing the price increase this year. Looking at the contents of the tweets on Twitter from the post above, I think the final direction is that the agreement to adopt Bitcoin will be born at the end of the agreement between the two heads of state. Yes. The public has melted with all this and wants to live normally.
legendary
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the issue remains

if ukraine joined EU+nato. then the eastern border of ukraine and western border of russia will remain a conflict zone

both putin, EU+NATO all want eastern ukraine to be a stateless no mans land. as a gap between the rivals to protect each other from each other
but zelenski wants to keep the eastern ukraine region as ukrainian. putin wont want to give up his western edge and EU+nato have no say in trying..

but EU+nato can say and have asked ukraine to give up its eastern edge as part of deal to enter EU+nato

the only real peaceful options are:
ukraine to give up eastern land and create this no-mans-land gap.. or
zelenski to promise putin that ukraine wont enter the EU+nato agreement and instead become trade partners/sister to russia or
ukraine and or russia to give up border land and create an entire new country thats not part of EU-NATO but allows both ex ukrainians and ex-russians to inhabit cohesively

as for impact to bitcoin.. only some temporary price wiggles that settle back to normal economic position after the 15 minute news cycle changes back to talking about puppies
legendary
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Politics is definitely one of the factors that can influence the price of bitcoin as well as the stock market, so ignoring the political situation for its impact on the market may not be the right choice. If the Russia Ukraine war ends, then perhaps a positive impact on bitcoin can be expected. How many problems the world faced as a result of the war, one of which was the disrupted global economic conditions.

Bitcoin adoption can be expected everywhere, including in countries at war. Ukraine and Russia may adopt it in the future regardless of its purpose, it will also have an impact on higher use cases.
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To suggest that Bitcoin price may be affected, means the both countries are already using bitcoin officially.

No, it's not about who are using Bitcoin officially, it's about them talking about ending the war.

If the talk would affect the price of bitcoin to bull, that I don't know or I don't think that is what Bitcoin is waiting for, to complete its bull run. Russia is yet to officially approve bitcoin as their legal tender, they are still under restrictions which will not give full access to the use. Both countries might have bitcoin investors which could already add to the pull of hodlers but that won't be much reason for the price increase. Yes we might have price spiking for the moment if the seize fire is announced because of anxiety but whether that could be sustainable is not quite a guarantee.

The possibility of the war stopping is high though with the level of synergy between Trump and Putin but the influence of it on Bitcoin may not be noticeable.

Bitcoin has commence it's bull run already, we even have a new all time high prior to the Bitcoin halving. But certainly, news like this is very positive for the market. Not just for us, but every financial market like stocks or golds could benefit from this optimism that after years or war, between Russia and Ukraine, we might see an end to it. We don't want to see soldiers from both countries and other nationalities died because of this war. And that's why this war has to stop and if both Presidents can do that, it will be a good effect on the geo-politics around the world and every market will have a good pump because of this very positive news.
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To suggest that Bitcoin price may be affected, means the both countries are already using bitcoin officially.

If the talk would affect the price of bitcoin to bull, that I don't know or I don't think that is what Bitcoin is waiting for, to complete its bull run. Russia is yet to officially approve bitcoin as their legal tender, they are still under restrictions which will not give full access to the use. Both countries might have bitcoin investors which could already add to the pull of hodlers but that won't be much reason for the price increase. Yes we might have price spiking for the moment if the seize fire is announced because of anxiety but whether that could be sustainable is not quite a guarantee.

The possibility of the war stopping is high though with the level of synergy between Trump and Putin but the influence of it on Bitcoin may not be noticeable.

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