Topic: Countdown to war with China (Read 512 times)

Count how many nuclear warheads that China has before you go to hot war with it. OK?

Just a bit curious, do most Americans know that China has the third most nuclear weapons?(If only counting well maintained ones, China the 2nd as Russia has a shortage of money to its armory maintainence)

I don't want to play fallout - the real world version.

The consensus I have seen is that it is likely to be triggered by an invasion of Taiwan by China, since the USA has a defense agreement with Taiwan. Of course all parties know this would likely result in all out war, so China is unlikely to do this until they are willing to engage in such a conflict.

If Military action were to happen, it'd probably originate in the South China Sea - https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/china-seizes-covid-19-advantage-in-south-china-sea/

China apparently really gets pissed when US military presence is near their country.

I agree, war is unlikely to start over this singular issue. However economic, proxy, and shadow wars between the USA and China have been in full force for several years now. This CCP virus pandemic is just another rising of the tensions leading toward open conflict. If clear proof of it being a biological weapon does come out, this would certainly escalate this conflict dramatically, possibly to open kinetic warfare.

China's going to face retaliation for their garbage communist government hiding coronavirus and suppressing doctors from informing the public about its spread but I think we're far from a war. Mutual agreed destruction is what prevented the Cold War from breaking out into something irreversible and I think both China and the US will have economic battles for the foreseeable future. Military action is possible, but not likely.

"U.S. and China Will Likely Go to War In the Next 30 Years - James Fanell"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMyoCIAO9YQ

As far as I'm concerned, there are two options for people who align with Zionists which put Trump in and leverage their propaganda to try to jin up fear and animosity for China.  The only reason to do so is to try to obtain support for a shooting war.

1) They are themselves aware of what Zionism is and in support of the project of Zionism.

2) They are dupes.

Zionism is Talmudism.  It is all about the chosen people re-taking the promised land and enslaving humanity as 'is written.'  This will definitely be at the expense of the United States once the shell of what we once were is milked dry, and we probably pretty much in that condition now.  The carcass is still good enough for stew meat, and the Chinese have got the manpower to do the butchering.  The Zionist will side with China and since they control the entire apparatus of the United States they can easily let China win that war almost without a fight.  And I predict that that is exactly what they will do.  They hate America precisely BECAUSE we gave them so much.  To a psychopath it's easier to pallet the thought that they took what they wanted than the idea that they were the beneficiaries of charity.

Again, I've got nothing but disdain for the CCP and would like to see them fail.  I don't have anything against the Chinese people, but I don't have a lot of love for them either.  They, like the Russians, are people who grew up in rough conditions under terrible governments and that does not favor bringing out the best in people.  Unfortunately the Chinese are useful slaves who will work cheap for the Zionists, and the former Soviets (who make up a large fraction of the Israeli populous) came up in a hard system which makes them capable of fairly outrageous atrocities in their part of the world.  We'll face both of these in the next hot war, and my analysis is that we'll get our asses handed to us fairly quickly.  In part because most of the officer core of our military has been installed and promoted specifically to ensure that outcome.

I would dearly love to see the CCP fail and the Chinese people find something better.  The Russians too.  A war with the United States in which they would win and/or get nuked (along with everyone else) will not help the people of either of those nations achieve the worthy goal of ridding themselves of their enslavelment, and it would wipe out the Americans completely.  The only winner would be Israel, and a lot of their quasi-religious leaders (who also lead both Russia and the U.S. in some fundamental ways) cannot stop promising a world with is vastly worse for ALL of the non-Jews than the Soviets or Communist Chinese ever achieved (although both got significant support from Talmudic/Kabbalistic forces in trying.)

None of this emotionally-driven tirade changes the fact that you are wrong about all 4 things. Every argument you make as to why being wrong is OK is because "its impending." That's great. Everything that has never happened is also "impending." You have yet to produce a single shred of evidence that supports your assertion that war has started, nor have you produced any evidence that the virus is a "bioweapon."

Stop reading zerohedge and go outside for a change. You constantly preach the inevitability of war, chaos, mass death and the apocalypse, yet meanwhile the sun is shining and the birds are chirping. Just take a peek out your window.

Lol! Don't behave like a kid. You are talking in unison with the conspiracy theorists which may or may not have any credibility. I have been seeing a lot of videos from various people in these last few weeks which are trying to make China solely responsible for this epidemic. In war, people don't burn their own house. You need to understand the difference here!

Also if you think US will attack China, then please come out of your day dream. China is not Afganistan or Iraq. They are the largest nation in Asia and splendidly powerful beyond your imagination. There is no countdown for war is ongoing.

I was also the first one on this forum warning Coronavirus was a serious issue back in January. Civil war is still a distinct possibility, not that you would know because you don't live here. Some factions in the US still desperately want to go into Iran. Regarding Joe Biden, just wait till the election. This are all nice off topic posts to try to bolster your lack of an argument, but back to the actual subject.

China absolutely is planning war with the US and has aspirations for world domination, it is well documented. They are also simply stealing sea resources from neighboring countries, including yours Nutilduhhh, but tell me some more about how peaceful they are shooting and sinking fishing boats for fishing in their own national waters. The millions in concentration camps are also having a fun time I am sure. The people of Hong Kong and Taiwan also love the impending peace China is about to bring them.

Whether you realize it or not, war between the US and China has already begun. You are just too dense to realize it.

You've also been warning against:

- an impending civil war in America
- a U.S. invasion of Iran
- a takedown of Joe Biden over his foreign dealings

and you've been dead wrong about each one of these things. You are a perfect reverse indicator of reality. Once I saw you open this thread, it was a confirmation that in no way is China trying to start a war with the U.S., or anybody for that matter.

War with China isn't going to happen over this issue no matter how badly you want it to happen.

Oh don't criticize China! That's racist! I have been WARNING against war with China for some time. Warning does not equal endorsing no matter how much either of you project your own delusions upon me in lieu of having an actual debate.

The CCP MUST BE CHECKED. You can suck my dick if you think that is "fomenting hatred".

He seems to be of the Bannon/Jones/Gorka/Psobic crowd.  Basically the Zionists who got Trump to the presidency.  Zerohedge's true colors are really shining through here as well.

Accding to my hypothesis these people would be pushing hard for a hot war with China...as a way to ensure the collapse of what was left of the United States and make it easier for Russian/Chinese troops to provide collection services on the geography and what remains of the populous.

Now I would not doubt that some or most of the lower-end people in this sector really do believe the 'New American Century' crap with all the U.S. domination/exploitation of the rest of the world.  It's not unlike how most of the greenies really do believe the solar panel and windmill utopia that their leadership has filled their heads with.

It's dictatorship either way.  I doubt that either the 'debt-backed' or 'resource-backed' leaders, both of who's dreams revolve around totalitarian control grids, are really on top per-se.  A little war between these factions themselves is also engineered by an entity who sits above both.  And gives power to both.  They win either way.

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Doesn't look like evidence to me. Keep fomenting hatred. Its what you do best, even if you are always wrong.

You don't give a shit about facts. You don't give a shit about the Chinese people. Your only goal here is to rub one out in public with your microscopic pecker because you are obsessed with me.

Everyone else, watch the documentary, it covers a lot of great info.

Okay, so zero evidence. You have zero actual evidence that backs your wild conspiracy claim, as usual. You just push some retarded, half-baked video you found on 4chan as truth and call it a day.

"Let's just foment hatred for China, that ought to solve the problem."

"1st documentary movie on the origin of CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le_rfTdayLs

China really has to be responsible for this plague...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1265235/Coronavirus-uk-news-boris-Johnson-china-compensation-fee-henry-Jackson-society I hope that more and more countries do this, China has really screwed up world.

Circumstantial.

 - The initial suggestions about r0, aerosolibility, durability, etc match 'gain of function' features which are worked on in biological weapons development.  As time goes by and if the initial reports prove to be unfounded, then this circumstantial evidence is accourdingly deprecated.

 - The obviously bogus nature of the 'bat soup' story and how it was circulated on social media were a match for deployment of a biological agent for propaganda purposes.

 - The match for previous 'hypothetical' infections of coronavirus including the 'ecersize 201' held to 'simulate' a coronavirus pandemic only weeks before the first admitted case in China.

 - The use of the 'covid-19' even to achieve a myriad of psychological and social goals.  Most certainly including mass surveillance and mandatory vaccination for all people on earth.

 - The figures behind the various 'hypothetical' infections and the various programs such as 'ID2020' (Bill Gates in particular) being very quick to jump hard on the bandwagon and continue to lead the charge.

These are a few things which raise the eyebrows of people such as myself who've been basically expecting such an operation.  Speaking for myself, I did not really recognize that it would be possible to achieve all of these things with a standard coronavirus that was and always has been kicking around in the mix for potentially a very long time.  When I realized that, it changed my mind on whether this 'almost had to be' a biological weapon.

Unlike most analysts, I fairly strongly entertain the hypothesis that the 'animosity' and competition between the 'superpowers' is not a real thing.  I think it possible that it is more akin to the 'animosity' between the Democrats and the Republicans which is almost completely a stage show.  I think it entirely possible that both the 'covid-19' thing and the coming war are entirely choreographed by entities who are above the commonly recognized governments (Trump, the CCP, etc) and are effectively pulling the strings on these entities, the mainstream media, the tech giants, etc.

What evidence do you have that covid-19 was a "bioweapon"?