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legendary
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November 04, 2024, 06:48:00 AM
#55

But there will not be a third world war just because of the conflict between Iran and Israel . The war between Russia and Ukraine is even larger in scale, with the indirect participation of many countries , but that does not create a third world war . So how could a small war in the Middle East cause a third world war ? Don't simply think that if there is a war between two countries, there will be a world war . World War 3 will cause our human world to become extinct , so it will not happen as easily as we think.

Putin is throwing all possible material and financial resources into the war with Ukraine and has almost brought Russia to collapse, because inside this country all the problems that have accumulated over the past several centuries of capturing and exploiting other nations and peoples have become extremely acute. Data has been made public that one day of war with Ukraine costs Russia 300 million dollars. But next year, the Russian budget again plans to spend twice as much on waging a war with Ukraine as on the social sphere.

Unable to find a reasonable way out of the deadlock with the war, Putin is trying to increase the escalation and is even attracting soldiers from North Korea to this war, because the number of its own citizens who are ready to fight and die in Ukraine for a lot of money is already running out.
https://www.dw.com/ru/oon-sotrudnicestvo-rf-i-kndr-vedet-k-opasnoj-eskalacii/a-70677710

Since, in addition to deliveries of various types of weapons, the DPRK sends its military to the Ukrainian front and, thus, fully enters the war on the side of Russia, Ukraine has every right to attack North Korea. The military conflict is growing and may well lead to World War III.

From the outside, things seem to be getting very serious and could cause a third world war. But are things really that bad? No one knows except the politicians of the superpowers like the United States, Russia, China and Europe. I also don't think there will be a third world war because I believe that the world's leading powers will not let war happen because it will directly affect them and even cause their destruction.

After all, the wars that take place in the world are basically just wars for power between great powers and national interests. The warring nations are just pawns of other nations, they don't even have the right to decide their own destiny. So if things get out of control, the powers behind it will certainly have to make some sacrifices to end the war for their greater good. The war is not over yet because the great powers have not reached any agreement.
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November 04, 2024, 04:26:01 AM
#54

But there will not be a third world war just because of the conflict between Iran and Israel . The war between Russia and Ukraine is even larger in scale, with the indirect participation of many countries , but that does not create a third world war . So how could a small war in the Middle East cause a third world war ? Don't simply think that if there is a war between two countries, there will be a world war . World War 3 will cause our human world to become extinct , so it will not happen as easily as we think.

Putin is throwing all possible material and financial resources into the war with Ukraine and has almost brought Russia to collapse, because inside this country all the problems that have accumulated over the past several centuries of capturing and exploiting other nations and peoples have become extremely acute. Data has been made public that one day of war with Ukraine costs Russia 300 million dollars. But next year, the Russian budget again plans to spend twice as much on waging a war with Ukraine as on the social sphere.

Unable to find a reasonable way out of the deadlock with the war, Putin is trying to increase the escalation and is even attracting soldiers from North Korea to this war, because the number of its own citizens who are ready to fight and die in Ukraine for a lot of money is already running out.
https://www.dw.com/ru/oon-sotrudnicestvo-rf-i-kndr-vedet-k-opasnoj-eskalacii/a-70677710

Since, in addition to deliveries of various types of weapons, the DPRK sends its military to the Ukrainian front and, thus, fully enters the war on the side of Russia, Ukraine has every right to attack North Korea. The military conflict is growing and may well lead to World War III.
legendary
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April 20, 2024, 12:01:34 PM
#53
I would guess that it is not really a long term solution though, the reality is that those rich Russians would eventually realize that buying stuff would be a lot smarter investment for them then rent or give you money. They had to run away from the war first so they accepted anything they could, but after a while they are going to realize they are the ones who have the money and not you, so they do not have any reason to keep that money going to you all the time.

Some rich Russian could buy 100 houses, because they do have oligarchs that are rich like that, and then rent it to 100 other Russians, who would be keeping the money between each other that way. So, it is not a long term good solution any countries economical situation.
Yes, renting was a force majeure situation for them and slowly they are buying lots of houses. They are buying houses in the richest and most prestigious districts. My neighbourhood is full of Russians right now. Since rich Russians come here, people and business owners prioritize them and in restaurants the first language you'll hear is Russian instead of local one. People are happy for that but to my mind it's a pity for our country because people don't analyze that Russians won't pay you a lot of money always, they pay you right now because they have no other option but slowly they build their businesses, buy apartments, even rent to other people and are slowly taking over the land.
That's how a nation is overtaken, you should be careful about it. They are taking a risk because as we have seen before in other nations, with a Russian-Ukrainian war, there were a lot of Russians who were asked to sell their stuff and leave, and a lot of oligarchs had to flee the nations they were in and go back to Russia, even the billionaires were asked to leave, and they lost all they had, most just sold it and not really lose anything, but they lost their position.

This is why I believe that we are going to end up seeing these people with a lot of trouble for the longest term. I think they are risking, so they do have the right to do this, but you should be careful because if you keep selling to them then you are going to lose your nation.
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April 20, 2024, 10:14:11 AM
#52
I live in a country that produces nothing, we import almost everything, including food and it might sound curious to you but my country is doing far better since the start of the Russia-Ukraine war. When the war started, many rich Russians flew to my country, rent prices went sky high, a small poor country become a Dublin in a single day. Since we are from post-soviet union country, almost everyone owns a flat or a house here, so people rarely have to pay for the rent, most of us own our houses. Skyrocket housing prices helped people to get a decent income from renting an apartment. These rich Russians are paying a lot of money in rents, they started businesses in our country and economic situation is getting very good for many people. Their migration started serious deflation and salaries also increased.
I wonder why they flew there when the affected country is only Ukraine, I mean in terms of physical damages. I know Russia were subject to sanctions but I heard that they are still doing fine since they still have a connection with some top countries like China. Even though your country is like that who produce nothing, it was still great because each people there have their own homes there as you said. This is the dream of each people even if it's only a small one.

So, at the moment we are in a good situation, like Switzerland but long-term I believe that everyone will be seriously affected, especially us who produce nothing and import everything.
Seriously affected, negatively? But why? I thought the effects of war are positive in your country? Therefore it may remain like that but I would be guilty if I wish there will always be wars because some people can suffer with it.
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April 19, 2024, 01:29:00 PM
#51
The the Russia - Ukraine war is one war that the global economy is on what I will call the borderline of recovery from and here is another conflict in the Middle East  region somewhat a major supplier of energy to the world. if this conflict should escalate with other major countries (which I chose not to mention) getting involved the global economy might be hit with worse recession than we are currently facing.

 More devasting would be for those importing nations mostly those of  Africa, against this backdrop and in extension this can also have a significant effect on the price of bitcoin not performing high as investors have been predicting in anticipation to it's halving circle of a bull run as some actors are forecasting of an indeterminate impending ww3.
I don't think we would experience a scenario worse than that of the Coronavirus Dump, which had a devastating effect on all market both on the crypto Market, currency, stocks, crude oil and the Gold in fact, the market generally, But regardless of what happens, I won't get fooled this time because of the event because what I know is that there's no way that the whole system can be destroyedin fact, Bitcoin would be the safest place to store funds in this case, Because no one knows what the Government of the world would come out with in terms of our monies in the bank, should these war cause a devastating effect globally.
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April 19, 2024, 01:03:57 PM
#50
Talking about how much costs were incurred during the war between Russia and Ukraine, I think there were certain parties who benefited, on the the other side, many people from the two countries experienced material losses and the trauma they caused but there were parties or countries who benefited in large amounts.
I think Unites State and European Union countries benefited from Ukraine joining Nato membership and on the one hand the United States became a weapons supplier for Ukraine to fight the Russian invasion.
Its not about the disadvantage when happening with war world 3 but also many side has advantage make higher values of oil and benefit with Europe Union to suspend Russia from their membership.
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April 19, 2024, 09:39:36 AM
#49
we don't need to calculate how much losses will be incurred if a third world war occurs, it will definitely be very massive and the losses will not only be economic but also in many ways. if that really happens, there will be many people who will lose their lives, jobs, homes, and many other things, no one wants this to happen because it will only harm everyone. so let's hope that this war will not escalate to a more severe level and hopefully this can be resolved through diplomacy, because the world has had enough of wars that are a waste of money and human lives.
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April 19, 2024, 09:16:06 AM
#48
this can also have a significant effect on the price of bitcoin not performing high as investors have been predicting in anticipation to it's halving circle of a bull run as some actors are forecasting of an indeterminate impending ww3.

bitcoin has a chance to crash since most countries will be going under economic crisis for sure and everyone will be forced to take out their profits just to stay afloat

there is too many repercussions if World was 3 were to happen and no one wants that now

Some countries that rely on these warring countries will be affected too, there will be panic and they will have no other choice than to sell off just to survive but I doubt it will be as big as the sell-off of 2020 Covid, that pandemic hit everywhere in the world and many people lost their lives.

This war is between two countries, just like Russia and Ukraine but the Covid affected all parts of the world, the true death toll of Covid 19 was a million plus, almost 2 million humans.

There was panic everywhere in the world, if there should have been a biggest sell off in the history of Bitcoin, the Covid era was the perfect time.

Still, I don't like that Ukraine and Russia are at war, it sickens me to even think about it, sometimes I feel like what if I am in such a country, its sad, I hope that Iran and Israel will end their conflict soon, it is scary.

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April 19, 2024, 08:55:37 AM
#47
The the Russia - Ukraine war is one war that the global economy is on what I will call the borderline of recovery from and here is another conflict in the Middle East  region somewhat a major supplier of energy to the world. if this conflict should escalate with other major countries (which I chose not to mention) getting involved the global economy might be hit with worse recession than we are currently facing.

 More devasting would be for those importing nations mostly those of  Africa, against this backdrop and in extension this can also have a significant effect on the price of bitcoin not performing high as investors have been predicting in anticipation to it's halving circle of a bull run as some actors are forecasting of an indeterminate impending ww3.
If the impending crisis in the middle East is left unchecked, it will definitely affect the world economy not only bitcoin. Countries are still staggering to come out from the covid-19 shock which most economy never prepared for, however from the grand scheme of things, is as if the world powers want a battlefield for them to display what they've all had in stock as firepower. During the Russia and the Ukraine early beginning of their crisis, a lot of people came in to talk about de-escalation and making sure the war doesn't start, because it will get a far reaching consequences in most countries and at some point the world economy had another shock because Ukraine are one of the highest producers and exporters of wheat and the crisis really dampened their production.
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April 19, 2024, 07:38:00 AM
#46
The war between Ukraine and Rusia did not only affect the two warring nations but the world at large. Ukraine and Russia were the world's largest producer of wheat and sunflower oil but the war has greatly reduced the food production from both countries. The severe sanctions on Russia has also hike energy prices, countries depending on Russia for energy had to seek for fuel and gas elsewhere, the stock market is not left out, it has also been affected. Now, this is just a war between two countries, if it comes to WWIII the impact on global economy will be catastrophic and I hope the brawl between Iran and Israel doesn't lead us there, because the world is already sick.
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April 19, 2024, 04:51:04 AM
#45
Through the conflict between Palestine and Israel, there is always a conflict between the countries of the Middle East, which could lead to World War III. If there is a third world war, then the economic situation of different countries of the world will be very critical. I think this will have a huge impact on cryptocurrency as well. We may have seen a few days ago that the small war that broke out between Iran and Israel had an effect on the price of Bitcoin. When Iran attacked Israel then there was a small shock in the market which caused the price of everything in the market including Bitcoin to fall. There is already an economic recession all over the world and if war starts between different parts of the Middle East then the economic situation of the world will continue to worsen.

If the middle east is cool then maybe world war 3 is not likely to happen I think it is never possible. Because there are always quarrels between different countries of the Middle East due to which they have become enemies of each other. As long as these hostilities are not resolved, there will be a threat of World War II.


But there will not be a third world war just because of the conflict between Iran and Israel . The war between Russia and Ukraine is even larger in scale, with the indirect participation of many countries , but that does not create a third world war . So how could a small war in the Middle East cause a third world war ? Don't simply think that if there is a war between two countries, there will be a world war . World War 3 will cause our human world to become extinct , so it will not happen as easily as we think.
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April 19, 2024, 04:15:53 AM
#44
I would guess that it is not really a long term solution though, the reality is that those rich Russians would eventually realize that buying stuff would be a lot smarter investment for them then rent or give you money. They had to run away from the war first so they accepted anything they could, but after a while they are going to realize they are the ones who have the money and not you, so they do not have any reason to keep that money going to you all the time.

Some rich Russian could buy 100 houses, because they do have oligarchs that are rich like that, and then rent it to 100 other Russians, who would be keeping the money between each other that way. So, it is not a long term good solution any countries economical situation.
Yes, renting was a force majeure situation for them and slowly they are buying lots of houses. They are buying houses in the richest and most prestigious districts. My neighbourhood is full of Russians right now. Since rich Russians come here, people and business owners prioritize them and in restaurants the first language you'll hear is Russian instead of local one. People are happy for that but to my mind it's a pity for our country because people don't analyze that Russians won't pay you a lot of money always, they pay you right now because they have no other option but slowly they build their businesses, buy apartments, even rent to other people and are slowly taking over the land.
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April 19, 2024, 03:08:02 AM
#43
I live in a country that produces nothing, we import almost everything, including food and it might sound curious to you but my country is doing far better since the start of the Russia-Ukraine war. When the war started, many rich Russians flew to my country, rent prices went sky high, a small poor country become a Dublin in a single day. Since we are from post-soviet union country, almost everyone owns a flat or a house here, so people rarely have to pay for the rent, most of us own our houses. Skyrocket housing prices helped people to get a decent income from renting an apartment. These rich Russians are paying a lot of money in rents, they started businesses in our country and economic situation is getting very good for many people. Their migration started serious deflation and salaries also increased.
So, at the moment we are in a good situation, like Switzerland but long-term I believe that everyone will be seriously affected, especially us who produce nothing and import everything.
I would guess that it is not really a long term solution though, the reality is that those rich Russians would eventually realize that buying stuff would be a lot smarter investment for them then rent or give you money. They had to run away from the war first so they accepted anything they could, but after a while they are going to realize they are the ones who have the money and not you, so they do not have any reason to keep that money going to you all the time.

Some rich Russian could buy 100 houses, because they do have oligarchs that are rich like that, and then rent it to 100 other Russians, who would be keeping the money between each other that way. So, it is not a long term good solution any countries economical situation.
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April 18, 2024, 01:09:36 AM
#42
Through the conflict between Palestine and Israel, there is always a conflict between the countries of the Middle East, which could lead to World War III. If there is a third world war, then the economic situation of different countries of the world will be very critical. I think this will have a huge impact on cryptocurrency as well. We may have seen a few days ago that the small war that broke out between Iran and Israel had an effect on the price of Bitcoin. When Iran attacked Israel then there was a small shock in the market which caused the price of everything in the market including Bitcoin to fall. There is already an economic recession all over the world and if war starts between different parts of the Middle East then the economic situation of the world will continue to worsen.

If the middle east is cool then maybe world war 3 is not likely to happen I think it is never possible. Because there are always quarrels between different countries of the Middle East due to which they have become enemies of each other. As long as these hostilities are not resolved, there will be a threat of World War II.
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April 17, 2024, 09:16:13 PM
#41
World War 3 doesn't seem long because if you notice the war between UK and Russia is going on and on the other hand there is a war going on between Palestine and Israel.  You all know and you have seen that Iran launched many rocket attacks on Israel on behalf of Palestine to destroy Israel from the middle.  If any other country participates in Israel's life, there will be a big situation of World War III and if America goes to Israel's side and attacks Iran or Palestine.  Then the upper leg will attack and join another country in what is most likely a World War 2. We all pray that it doesn't happen.  When World War III starts, people will die of hunger and the economy The world economy will be in a very bad state and people will die of lack of food and it's very, very sad.
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April 17, 2024, 01:50:33 PM
#40
Yeah World War III would be a huge blow to pretty much everything financially speaking.  I think bitcoin would end up getting hit pretty hard, but not as hard as most see or think they see happening.  It would certainly tank the stock markets and people would try to flee for cash.  I still think bitcoin would probably lose half of it's value, but it could be worse.  Let's just hope it never happens!

If you look at the history of bitcoin,every little thing or bad news in the world causes bitcoin and crypto to go down and this is the one thing i dont like about the market. Last time with the Russia/Ukraine war crypto went down,now when Iran/Isreal war is here crypto goes down again. Hopefully the war dosent go bit or that it goes into World War 3 because it will cause everything to drop heavily and everyone will be affected by this.
legendary
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April 17, 2024, 10:52:13 AM
#39
Yeah World War III would be a huge blow to pretty much everything financially speaking.  I think bitcoin would end up getting hit pretty hard, but not as hard as most see or think they see happening.  It would certainly tank the stock markets and people would try to flee for cash.  I still think bitcoin would probably lose half of it's value, but it could be worse.  Let's just hope it never happens!

the Middle East tension is already showing their firepower. if they are already shooting each other's military bases, there is a chance of ww3 going to happen. but these are all skirmishes since the US is not directly firing their guns and has no boots on the ground.  Iran proved their point that it can fight back, but it may end there unless Israel retaliates.

once war happens, i guess we're all going to be selling. there is no point in holding an asset that will just keep depreciating.

legendary
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April 17, 2024, 09:44:46 AM
#38
Yeah World War III would be a huge blow to pretty much everything financially speaking.  I think bitcoin would end up getting hit pretty hard, but not as hard as most see or think they see happening.  It would certainly tank the stock markets and people would try to flee for cash.  I still think bitcoin would probably lose half of it's value, but it could be worse.  Let's just hope it never happens!
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April 17, 2024, 04:21:15 AM
#37
The the Russia - Ukraine war is one war that the global economy is on what I will call the borderline of recovery from and here is another conflict in the Middle East  region somewhat a major supplier of energy to the world. if this conflict should escalate with other major countries (which I chose not to mention) getting involved the global economy might be hit with worse recession than we are currently facing.

 More devasting would be for those importing nations mostly those of  Africa, against this backdrop and in extension this can also have a significant effect on the price of bitcoin not performing high as investors have been predicting in anticipation to it's halving circle of a bull run as some actors are forecasting of an indeterminate impending ww3.
I live in a country that produces nothing, we import almost everything, including food and it might sound curious to you but my country is doing far better since the start of the Russia-Ukraine war. When the war started, many rich Russians flew to my country, rent prices went sky high, a small poor country become a Dublin in a single day. Since we are from post-soviet union country, almost everyone owns a flat or a house here, so people rarely have to pay for the rent, most of us own our houses. Skyrocket housing prices helped people to get a decent income from renting an apartment. These rich Russians are paying a lot of money in rents, they started businesses in our country and economic situation is getting very good for many people. Their migration started serious deflation and salaries also increased.
So, at the moment we are in a good situation, like Switzerland but long-term I believe that everyone will be seriously affected, especially us who produce nothing and import everything.
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April 16, 2024, 06:41:01 AM
#36
some of the countries that are involved in war are being sanctioned by the United States on operating with the Dollars

Dude, I'm glad you mentioned that, because I was going to try to find a thread about those US sanctions and post in it.  I was passing by a liquor store last night and saw a sign that stated that they're no longer carrying Russian vodka.  That caused me to do a double take and then I made the assumption that this was some sort of sanction (even though I'd never heard it announced).  In addition I've noticed that precious metals dealers in the US no longer sell those nice Russian palladium ballet coins.  I don't think that's because they're so much in demand that they're just out of stock.
You are very correct the Chymist, according to the Office of Foreign Asset Control in the US Department of Treasury importation into the United States of fish, seafood, and preparations thereof; alcoholic beverages; and non-industrial diamonds of Russian Federation origin. There is also a ban on the importation of Russian-origin aluminium, copper, and nickel into the United States.

Well, continuous sanctions by the United States may actually lead most countries to de-dollarization because they may not continue using the USD as a reserved currency when the United States government has already issued them sanctions.
De-dollarisation is not an easy path to thread because the US and its allies dominate the global economy. Nations will always need the dollar for international trade. If de-dollarisation were easy, the BRICS nations would have been the first to adopt such a policy.
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