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I had a family who moved to New Zealand, and he had been there for more than 15 years, he always invited relatives or anyone to move to New Zealand because the New Zealand law made anyone who became a citizen including immigrants, this was what made it now The immigrant population in New Zealand reached more than 30%.
That's nice to hear that New Zeland are very open to someone else that wants to live there forever but I think this is also possible on some other countries? As long as you stay there for a very long time and comply to their rules, you can also be a permanent citizen on that certain country your currently living with. For a while, you can be called to as an alien. Such a weird term isn't it but that was legit.

I got an info somewhere which they say that living in New Zealand country was expensive but I don't know if that was true. Can your family confirm that? New Zealand is a fine country so maybe that was true. The opposite thing can happen to you there, if you are rich and you move there, you can go poor  Cheesy.
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I agree, USA and Canada are the best countries to start from the scratch, that's why there are tens of thousand asylum seekers, especially in States,but it all about depends on person's desire not the country,don't forget that there are too many poor people in USA and Canada too.

Having poor people in such countries doesn't take away the fact that they are well organized countries because there will always be poor people in our midst so it is not surprising if that is so. The difference is that the opportunities are there for everyone, equality is the game and for those with idealogy to harness their potential. US is the biggest democracy and giving freedom to citizens and asylums.
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I do not agree with most of your views and opinions, because each country have there different needs and unique job opportunities. You have not given us any statistics to backup your statements and you are just making stuff up as you go.

There are millions of people making loads of money in 3rd world countries, because they simply tapped into the market needs and they are working to fulfill those needs. This is stats ==> https://www.statista.com/statistics/1182842/number-of-high-net-worth-individuals-in-africa-by-country/
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In western eirope such us netherland switzerland germany its all about your education and papers...not about who you are and what are your human qualities unless you have super good education you have zero opportunities in western europe also.
I know many people who were raised in Eastern Europe and got well paying jobs in the West and never even had to leave their town. They are all working in IT and most of them are self taught. Mostly back end devs, but also support specialists and so on. Many Western companies hire in Eastern EU because it's cheaper for them and there's even more skilled people there. Now imagine that you live in Eastern EU where everything is much cheaper and you get a Western EU pay, while working from home.

I don't know what level of being rich you're talking about. If by rich you mean that somebody is flying a private jet then maybe you're right, but if you're talking about living in a new house with a big garden, having 2 cars one for daily driving and one for fun, being able to travel, then it's achievable in any EU country. You just need to be good at something other people aren't. For instance, I have a friend whose mother is a doctor doing all those beauty treatments like BTX and she earns a lot. They have apartments all around Europe (Germany, Italy, Austria).
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I have heard many times that United States is that place for opportunities (but it also has broken many lives) and people tries to get there, because they believe they will become rich there. Somehow I can agree with that. I've seen many times how people travel there and become successful exactly while being there. I have also seen how people travel there, get some ideas there, return to their countries, start business and become successful. As a partial proof - look at Forbes list of first 100 billionaires. Majority are from the United States.
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You need to learn everyday to become rich and welthy. Even from your childhood any information you get it is the invest in your future. No matter where you live in. So in any country you could live good if you are strong enough and ready to learn.

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Think about if they would lived in somewhere else ?
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OK. Mo Salah, Sadio Mane and many other African sporstsmen. They used to live in poor country without any perspectives but they had strong spirit and of course talent to become a famous. Of course it is much harder to raise from 3rd countries than from Europe. But you dont need to think if you was born there you had not try
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Before i proceed, op how did you get this analysis? through internet or you have dwell in all part of this countries you mentioned or listed to be able to know the system of the way they absorbed people for employment, actually i know that corruption is everywhere, base on country system of governance.

because theirs country that specialized on racism and some countries don't embrace such also, and their is country that have rulling class and if you are among of the rulling class you won't secure employment...for me if i live in such environment or nation, i will fine my out of the country and relocate to place that will be favourable to me.
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Henry Ford once said, “I am ready to account for any day in my life, but don't ask me how I made my first million.”

That first one is the hardest to make, and many made that first million by very hard work, hassling, running a business in the gray zone (legally/illegally)! Sure, the place where someone lives plays a big role and can make it easier or harder to get rich, but in the end, what matters is the person and his character, ambitions, readiness, and all other character traits! Who has ambitious enough and willing to do more than others has a chance to become rich in any country! I guess becoming rich can also be just a product of luck for some people, they just had that luck to be in the right place at the right time!
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I had a family who moved to New Zealand, and he had been there for more than 15 years, he always invited relatives or anyone to move to New Zealand because the New Zealand law made anyone who became a citizen including immigrants, this was what made it now The immigrant population in New Zealand reached more than 30%.
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Of course, first of all, these are developing countries. It is easier to do a successful business in a developing country. In Russia, for example, it is easier to make a successful business than in the USA. Of course, it is worth doing business in a country that you know very well. Mentality, needs, requests that you understand well. And in general, you can make a successful business in your country, the main thing is to find your niche, this is the key to success in any business! If you don't have a really unique idea, then no country can help you.
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Canada and Australia I agree, in past few years these countries even have lesser racial discriminations which make them good countries for immigrants, but I feel same can't be said true for US, first of all it's not an easy task for a person to get working visa in US, especially if you are from a 3rd world country. but yes if you get into the country then obviously you can be rich if you compare yourself on a global level, won't say rich but you could be well settled.

I can attest to Canada, they seem to have a fair system for immigrants and I have relatives living there for many years. But lately in the US there is a hate against Asian so it's not a safe place to live it specially if you have kids. Would rather be EU countries like Germany and Paris, but still you need to work your ass off to live a good life as you immigrate in those countries.
Right now Canada tops the list, because it has got everything required and lacks the working population. This is the reason why it has got fair system for the immigrants. With time this scenario will change when more and more people make it their home country. As said compared to USA there is not much of racial discrimination. Another thing majority of the firms and businesses in Canada seems to be operated by Asians. This makes Canada an Asian friendly country.
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Is becoming reach (rich ?  Grin) really depends from country you are in or from?


Sometimes the country where you from can determine because policies are maintained, corruption is reduced and access to opportunity is equal then if you struggle with your creativity and intelligence, you can make it.


You can exchange some dollars in Africa and get a cart of cash. A person would definitely looks rich with that pile of cash.


You may be surprised that inflation can make nonsense of it at the end


while living in Africa (google say they are the poorest, to blame them), sell the innovation and become rich.


Africa is not the poorest but may have corrupt leadership that is not able to utilize the numerous natural resources.


Country does not play a huge role, being creative and lucky is the most important factor.

I think it does, that country can help you live a good life if you are not rich.
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There are some countries that their are many chances of getting rich there  but how to get rich there is easy only  by working hard and good thinking.  In such countries if one is hard working and thinking upright on how to be rich it is possible to be rich, but when one thinks that getting rich comes  overnight it is impossible to become rich because in that same country their are also poor people living there.

The only way to became a rich person is very simple. You need to work hard and soft based on the situation.When the country leads to the capital economy, surely it will give you a enough chance to win.Only things to do in capitalist economy is, you need to think differently. You need to create a capital instead of asking a credits from others. Then you need to multiple the capital using the tactics. You can also do cryto trading, to double or triple the capital.
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Stats are created by the people who actually been living all around the world so real experinces.
Off course some people will argue with this stats as they got good wealth and they like the old ways of thinking specially the corrupted way of thinking but they themselfes are just afraid if they lose wealth or status they become nothing as they live on those areas where human values are lower then money and wealth so they are in fear of beeing poor so they try to be so greedy as possible as they know if they fall society will step on them and they cant make mistakes so they try to take as much they can to avoid that someone stronger will taking from them when they will be the weak.
So enjoy !!

Here the stats:
Countries where you less likely have opportunity to become wealthy if you did not born with good wealth all ready.
So zero change to get anything from zero
Zero opportunitie countries are:
All western europe, eastern europe and russia and united kingdom ireland and scotland area.
In wesrern europe the wealth standards are out of your reach.
In eastern europe including russia those who have something will make sure that those who dont have anything will never ever get anything.also in eastern europe also the baltic countries  its very family oriented and companies gives only good jobs to people who they know or family members the skills and knowledge not first priority when it comes to good paying jobs specially goverment jobs also high corruption so those who got no connections or are not in good family have zero ways to get anything at all for them only right way is to get away from there to go somewhere they are respected more.

In western eirope such us netherland switzerland germany its all about your education and papers...not about who you are and what are your human qualities unless you have super good education you have zero opportunities in western europe also.

About france: well its divided 2 south france monacoand french riviera area well south french off course its closed siciety and if you got no wealth its not your place.

Paris and non south french area:
There is strong community of arabs those who click in this they can be successful also not legal actvities are there but french laws are very difficult and not foreign friendly off course french rievra south side is different story its for the rich people so not many rules for them.

In the uk the rules regulations and bureaucracy is so much that you have all most zero opportunity to get anything if you try to normal ways.(exp. If you can brake some rules you might get lucky as uk is full of flaws in justice and law system if you creative u might get lucky)

Most likely easy ways to get success from zero to wealthy.
Are: canada,usa,australia
It goes there like this if you are hard worker it can be done and society is welcoming the people who want to work themselfes up not just inheritage.
If you are open minded usa is best
If you are hard worker canada and australia is best.

Nowhere else you dont get nothing everybody will allmost step on you if you dont have no wealth all ready.

You sound absolutely clueless about how the world operates. Wealth is also not just about how much money you make, but also how much money it takes just to exist. America is a great country but it's no easier to get richer there than in the UK. I thought this thread might have some actual statistics, like a simple search of google with the phrase "Social mobility" would show you the actual best countries - based on proper research rather than an unintelligent opinion - for moving from being poor to having wealth. Ironically none of the three countries that you mention as the best are in the top ten. You should do a lot more travelling an open your mind before jumping to conclusions.
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Is becoming reach really depends from country you are in or from?

You can exchange some dollars in Africa and get a cart of cash. A person would definitely looks rich with that pile of cash.


There is a popular meaning, that in silicon valley it is easy for IT guy to become rich. Could be, but this place is overcrowded by IT guys. So it does not look easy to stand out.

Or you can have an IBM 486 like pc, code something on it, while living in Africa (google say they are the poorest, to blame them), sell the innovation and become rich.

Country does not play a huge role, being creative and lucky is the most important factor.
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If you are open minded usa is best
If you are hard worker canada and australia is best.

Nowhere else you dont get nothing everybody will allmost step on you if you dont have no wealth all ready.
I have a cousin who has lived in the US since 6 years ago, he started from scratch in the US and now the economy is stable there, besides that he also said that Australia if is a good place to "change fate". once crossed my mind to try to work in Australia when I finished college later, hopefully there later, my fate will change.
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Canada and Australia I agree, in past few years these countries even have lesser racial discriminations which make them good countries for immigrants, but I feel same can't be said true for US, first of all it's not an easy task for a person to get working visa in US, especially if you are from a 3rd world country. but yes if you get into the country then obviously you can be rich if you compare yourself on a global level, won't say rich but you could be well settled.

In my own idea, you can get rich from zero in any country no matter if you are in the USA or Canada if you do have the intelligence and you have a proper plan to stick on it you can get rich in any country and any situation, some people believe if you have a rich mind you know the plan and the way, here a country is just a place where you can bold your skills and knowledge because if you don't have any plan and knowledge even on the country with the best situation you will have no luck.
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Canada and Australia I agree, in past few years these countries even have lesser racial discriminations which make them good countries for immigrants, but I feel same can't be said true for US, first of all it's not an easy task for a person to get working visa in US, especially if you are from a 3rd world country. but yes if you get into the country then obviously you can be rich if you compare yourself on a global level, won't say rich but you could be well settled.

I can attest to Canada, they seem to have a fair system for immigrants and I have relatives living there for many years. But lately in the US there is a hate against Asian so it's not a safe place to live it specially if you have kids. Would rather be EU countries like Germany and Paris, but still you need to work your ass off to live a good life as you immigrate in those countries.
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If you can choose one of the country with zero money in your pocket just plain ticket and fly to there....
I doubt it will be china or asia u likely will do well in those countries canada usa australia specially in usa if you are open minded enough.
What I can say is that it is easier said than done. What I mean is that it is easy to say but it is difficult to travel especially to countries like US, because of voluminous number of people that want to travel to the country, they make it hard already for averagely rich people to travel to such country not to talk of people that are unable to travel at all. Because of good living and willingness for some people to travel to such countries, they become the victim of sex traffickers.
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What a load of crap. It is true that it's easier to become rich by living in first world countries when compared to 3rd world countries for obvious reasons, but this doesn't imply that hard work, being open-minded etc are guaranteed to make you rich.

If that was the case, majority of the world would have been rich, but that clearly isn't the case. Honestly, it's possible to go from rags to riches anywhere as long as luck sides with you.

For example, some of the richest(Rags to Riches) people in the world are from India(Shah Rukh Khan etc).

I think he is trying to list countries that has good systems that support people to become successful. In third world nations were multiple taxation, corruption, insecurity, lack of infrastructures and other economic challenges greatly hampers the chances of running a good business, becoming successful is very challenging.
Also some first world nation don't give equal opportunity to everyone due to systematic racism. Becoming successful in such nations are very difficult. Everybody know about the American Dream, the US is a land of great opportunities and Canada is also following America's footpath.
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