Countries who will take dis advantage of nuclear weapons

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 13, 2017, 12:10:22 PM

Quote from: Barbarian on February 12, 2017, 01:34:42 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

Pakistan is never going to surrender its nuclear weapons as long as India also has nuclear weapons, the probabilities of a nuclear war among the world strongest countries went down but it is more likely that a nuclear war being started by a local conflict.

India is not going to give up their nukes. Forget about it. But there is a chance that Pakistan may agree to deactivate their nuclear weapons, if the US can offer them a nice deal. Pakistan is a failed country, which is desperate for cash and clout.

Forget about it. This will never happen. After Russia invaded Ukraine, which renounced nuclear weapons, no one will repeat such a mistake. The Americans provided security guarantees and did not keep his word. What are the promises of America?

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Quote from: Barbarian on February 12, 2017, 01:34:42 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

Pakistan is never going to surrender its nuclear weapons as long as India also has nuclear weapons, the probabilities of a nuclear war among the world strongest countries went down but it is more likely that a nuclear war being started by a local conflict.

India is not going to give up their nukes. Forget about it. But there is a chance that Pakistan may agree to deactivate their nuclear weapons, if the US can offer them a nice deal. Pakistan is a failed country, which is desperate for cash and clout.

criptix

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 12, 2017, 08:41:26 AM

Quote from: Dem-artini on February 11, 2017, 02:55:00 PM

Quote from: criptix on February 11, 2017, 02:49:18 PM

North korea and iran dont have a nuclear deterrence.

They have way less then a handful of nuclear warheads or none at all.

With todays missile defense technologies and sytems an arsenal of less then 200-300 nuclear warheads is pretty much useless.

India and Pakistan regularly fight each other. And India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons but none of them did not occur to use nuclear weapons. I am sure that there are no idiots are able to use nuclear weapons.

Even if a single nuclear warhead is detonated, that can result in the death of hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions. No air defense system in the world is 100% effective, and there is always a chance of a missile sneaking through.

No single warhead ballistic missiles are 1950 technology.
Pretty much every air defense from 1980 can fully counter it. That is the reason why the nuclear powers created MIRV's in the first place.

Saturation strikes so that still atleast some warheads will get through the defense shield.

Barbarian

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

Pakistan is never going to surrender its nuclear weapons as long as India also has nuclear weapons, the probabilities of a nuclear war among the world strongest countries went down but it is more likely that a nuclear war being started by a local conflict.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 12, 2017, 08:41:26 AM

Quote from: Dem-artini on February 11, 2017, 02:55:00 PM

Quote from: criptix on February 11, 2017, 02:49:18 PM

North korea and iran dont have a nuclear deterrence.

They have way less then a handful of nuclear warheads or none at all.

With todays missile defense technologies and sytems an arsenal of less then 200-300 nuclear warheads is pretty much useless.

India and Pakistan regularly fight each other. And India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons but none of them did not occur to use nuclear weapons. I am sure that there are no idiots are able to use nuclear weapons.

Even if a single nuclear warhead is detonated, that can result in the death of hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions. No air defense system in the world is 100% effective, and there is always a chance of a missile sneaking through.

It is for this reason that nuclear war never will be. Nuclear weapons are weapons of deterrence. I am sure that even maniacs from Pakistan and North Korea will not dare to use nuclear weapons first.

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Quote from: Dem-artini on February 11, 2017, 02:55:00 PM

Quote from: criptix on February 11, 2017, 02:49:18 PM

North korea and iran dont have a nuclear deterrence.

They have way less then a handful of nuclear warheads or none at all.

With todays missile defense technologies and sytems an arsenal of less then 200-300 nuclear warheads is pretty much useless.

India and Pakistan regularly fight each other. And India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons but none of them did not occur to use nuclear weapons. I am sure that there are no idiots are able to use nuclear weapons.

Even if a single nuclear warhead is detonated, that can result in the death of hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions. No air defense system in the world is 100% effective, and there is always a chance of a missile sneaking through.

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Quote from: warwar on February 12, 2017, 05:14:42 AM

Mostly if im thinking about nuclear weapons well the first thing that comes up to my mind is north korea because we all know about their president that is really strict and sort of they are doing something military exercises that is also involved with the nuclear bomb testing so north korea will take this advantage

Nuclear weapons is a very complex technical device. There's a lot of fuses and, therefore, one maniac even if he is President will not be able to use it. I don't think anyone will use the first nuclear weapons.

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Mostly if im thinking about nuclear weapons well the first thing that comes up to my mind is north korea because we all know about their president that is really strict and sort of they are doing something military exercises that is also involved with the nuclear bomb testing so north korea will take this advantage

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Quote from: prince V on February 10, 2017, 02:28:05 AM

pakistan is countinously intimating neighbouring countries for nuclear wars.China is secretly supporting pakistan for the same.which all countrues will be allies with pakistan if it starts a nuclear war with its neighnouring country india?Does pakistan deserve NSG membership?Who among the 2 neighbours india and pakistan deserve NSG membership?

Well i would chose the india because they are not reckless as ever and they don't really harm some other countries they just defend their countries for good and pakistan is a really dangerous country they think that they are strong of a country and they have NSG on their hands that's why they use it just to intimating the other countries they are reckless and don't really have the brain to think of a way just to make use of that nuclear >.< world war 3 will come if they don't ease up their nuclear >.<

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Quote from: criptix on February 11, 2017, 02:49:18 PM

North korea and iran dont have a nuclear deterrence.

They have way less then a handful of nuclear warheads or none at all.

With todays missile defense technologies and sytems an arsenal of less then 200-300 nuclear warheads is pretty much useless.

India and Pakistan regularly fight each other. And India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons but none of them did not occur to use nuclear weapons. I am sure that there are no idiots are able to use nuclear weapons.

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Both N. Korea and Pakistan have nuclear weapons. The leaders of both countries are anti-West. So its safe to say that they will take disadvantage of nuclear weapons.

criptix

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North korea and iran dont have a nuclear deterrence.

They have way less then a handful of nuclear warheads or none at all.

With todays missile defense technologies and sytems an arsenal of less then 200-300 nuclear warheads is pretty much useless.

Pakistan on the other hand just needs to defend against india. And for now it looks like a stallmate.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:46:43 AM

Quote from: pinkmann on February 10, 2017, 02:27:05 PM

Quote from: NyeFee on February 10, 2017, 02:17:02 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

You can think of anything but neither Pakistan nor North Korea have never used it. This suggests that they are not crazy they seem. A nuclear weapon is a deterrent and not a power factor.

That's true, nuclear weapons just prevent other countries from invading.

Unfortunately, what you have posted is 100% right. And the most disturbing thing is that now the other rogue nations (such as Sudan and Somalia) will also try to develop the nukes, so that they can insulate themselves from invasions.

Production and maintenance of nuclear weapons is very expensive. I'm pretty sure that neither Sudan nor Somalia can not afford to maintain such an Arsenal. And if a country already possessing nuclear weapons to give them a blockade then they have no chance.

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Quote from: pinkmann on February 10, 2017, 02:27:05 PM

Quote from: NyeFee on February 10, 2017, 02:17:02 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

You can think of anything but neither Pakistan nor North Korea have never used it. This suggests that they are not crazy they seem. A nuclear weapon is a deterrent and not a power factor.

That's true, nuclear weapons just prevent other countries from invading.

Unfortunately, what you have posted is 100% right. And the most disturbing thing is that now the other rogue nations (such as Sudan and Somalia) will also try to develop the nukes, so that they can insulate themselves from invasions.

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This is Pakistan. I do not even know why such a country exist and why they have been granted the nuclear weapon. North Korea at the inverse has the nuclear weapon as its only protection against an invasion from the fucking southerners and Americans.

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Quote from: gabmen on February 11, 2017, 07:43:19 AM

I think its really scary especially with nokor that they have access to such powerful weapons. Kim is unhinged. I think theres more to north korea that we are nit seeing from the outside. Although it seems like what kim was doing previous times are all bark, he actually has the means to be a real threat to other countries including the us

I don't think nuclear weapons North Korea is so technically advanced that they will be able to confront America. It seems to me that their nuclear program is nothing more than a PR.

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I think its really scary especially with nokor that they have access to such powerful weapons. Kim is unhinged. I think theres more to north korea that we are nit seeing from the outside. Although it seems like what kim was doing previous times are all bark, he actually has the means to be a real threat to other countries including the us

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Quote from: pinkmann on February 10, 2017, 02:27:05 PM

Quote from: NyeFee on February 10, 2017, 02:17:02 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

You can think of anything but neither Pakistan nor North Korea have never used it. This suggests that they are not crazy they seem. A nuclear weapon is a deterrent and not a power factor.

That's true, nuclear weapons just prevent other countries from invading. If you use them then they will certainly be used against you as well.

I don't think there will ever be a nuclear war.

I agree with you. Nuclear weapons are frightening only in that case if it is in the hands of only one country. I am sure that very soon will be a global war, but it will be simple weapons. People are to blame for this.

pinkmann

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Quote from: NyeFee on February 10, 2017, 02:17:02 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

You can think of anything but neither Pakistan nor North Korea have never used it. This suggests that they are not crazy they seem. A nuclear weapon is a deterrent and not a power factor.

That's true, nuclear weapons just prevent other countries from invading. If you use them then they will certainly be used against you as well.

I don't think there will ever be a nuclear war.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2017, 11:27:49 AM

North Korea is ruled by a lunatic, and Pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of lunatics. So it is difficult to say that who is more dangerous. Hopefully the United States may be able to persuade Pakistan to give up the nuclear weapons, before any of them ends up with the ISIS.

You can think of anything but neither Pakistan nor North Korea have never used it. This suggests that they are not crazy they seem. A nuclear weapon is a deterrent and not a power factor.

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