Topic: Covid-19 DONATION CryptoLocalATM self-moderated? (Read 615 times)

I confirm that we are happy to have contributed and demonstrated our good faith and, although minimal, we are happy and proud to have done so.

(the error was typing that's why we changed there is nothing rotten  )

I am confused...  you first said you are happy, then you are not very happy, and then you edited.
System exploit completed.

Thanks for your feedback I want to add that we are not a fundraising company but we are an atm bitcoin company and our customers know us as such ... We wanted to exploit our systems for the common good and although we didn't raise much money we demonstrated our good faith. Thanks for the trust.

Good Job and your strategy worked perfectly.
Looks like you are very popular in Italy when you collected total of $13 from 3 contributors + you donated few extra euros yourself.
Legit.

to confirm our transparency we confirm that we have collected a total of 13 dollars (not much but we are happy to have done it) and to round off in euros we have sent 15 EURO.

The fundraisers were sent to GOFOUND by donating them directly to the Bergamohospital which was one of the hospitals with the most victims. I hope this will make us understand our good faith.

We thank for the collaboration of all and for those who believed in us.

Anyone who wants to control the transition can do it  from here we attach in any way some additional screenshots.

What part are you doing?
You donated 13$ or few cents maybe?

Go hack yourself please, and cover yourself with a blanket after.
It's embarrassing...

Good to hear that.
It is important for sure, as number of deaths is rising every day sadly  

This is the website you talked about before:
DONATE

In the meantime, we were discussing,
the blockchain based charity I suggested donating to, has racked up 0.2 BTC since my last post, with a total of 3.14 BTC.
Every mBTC tracked on the blockchain.

Did "some brewery companies," ask from random people to donate money for his humanity? Or they spend their money on it?
this is certainly not the same. Goodwill to help using their resources or attempts to collect money.
As I say, I have a bad experience with similar situations and because of that, I offer zero tolerance. maybe that's my reason for being aggressive in this case.

Be careful, and stay safe.

@nutildah - I agree, they started off in an questionable manner by starting a self moderated thread, but I am just saying giving a red trust is just like decreasing there creditability and DTs here are aggressively using it. I was a bit more generalized and not specified on this case alone.

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I don't know how I could be arrogant even after mention that the comment was posted with all due respect as a friend.

Even you don't know much about what the company is and how they operate in Italy, same as me. Yet you started a thread in reputation without even checking there website and cross checking it with its physical postions. I know you can do this.

You sound more arrogant in your advice of donating the funds myself. I know I am doing my part to help though.

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What an lame advice, I am happy such users don't trust my judgements in there trust lists.

Even some brewery companies converted there plant to create hand sanitizers an many more companies helping in whatever way they can. They are a big fraud and worthy of warning as they are doing something which is not of there field.



But arrogance and aggressive behaviour comes after someone tries to question your legimate attempts of going with humanitarian and goodwill as per I see. This my even block and fly off other similar legimate attempts.

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I am not affiliated to the above project in questions in anyway and don't even indent to back them up or encourage anyone to take advantage of such global situations here. I am out.

Their business is not a charity. They should not do something that is not in their field of activity. If wants to help, I agree with Vod, they can always donate their money.
I have some bad experiences with insincere donations collecting, I know the feeling is very ugly


humanitarian and goodwill never go along with "arrogance", "aggressive" behaviour.

No you are not.
You are also arrogant and you think you know it all.
Maybe you can join their team or DONATE on their website and show support in that way.

Well we got your smartass comments and attention here, don't we  

Opening self-moderated threads and deleting questions about a poorly-described "charity" is shady as fuck.



You need to read up more on the issue before just interjecting yourself in it and typing a reply.


The difference is they opened the self-moderated threads first, engaging in behavior that mirrors that of scammers, and they are the ones asking for money. We aren't asking for money.

The OP wasn't even accusing them of being a scam, just questioning their legitimacy:


They opened literally 17 self-modded threads for their charity -- this was in no way a good idea, regardless of how honest their intentions were.

- its a very sensitive subject
- its ripe for fraud
- they had little-to-no reputation on the forum
- they bombarded the forum in a very spammy manner
- they used tactics similar to scammers (self-modded thread, deleting replies)

I myself personally wouldn't leave them a negative feedback for this issue, especially now that they seem to have learned their lesson. However, I don't blame others for encouraging people to exercise caution before making donations to this company.

With all due respect my friend, I am right.

None of the reasons you mentioned above warrent a red-tag and give others, right to reduce the creditability of the project to get further donations. And later complain about them only getting 13$ in donation until. I don't usually see a charity company being humiliated and judged upon by the amount of donations it has received. One sould fear humanity atleast.

And as I already said.


You can't blame them for being arrogant, amateurs or aggressive here, it's what they got back out of here.



I don't think they would get any good shit out this attention, but although it's limited to your positive thinking.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54067732

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54069807

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54072590

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54076855


Are all of them on ignore for you Vod ?

If something needs to be posted, it's not "clear".  :/

There is no solid evidence of any legit business here, either.   CryptoLocalATM does not seem to have any money to donate himself , even though he would get that money back.

With all due respect you are wrong, and it is only your opinion.

Why this topic is created?

- They spammed all forum opening same copy/paste topic in english language in every possible local topic.
- They erased any comment they don't like in their topics
- They are not willing to change anything or accept our suggestions
- They acted like arrogant amateurs and kids
- They made threats to other people like kids do in school

I don't agree with red trust and I never said they are scam, but neutral feedback is 100% valid.

Result:
They got more attention in Bitcointalk forum, and they can still make things right (if they want) and maybe collect more than 13$

It is clear that DT members tagging CryptoLocalATM with red trust here have no solid evidence of any scam or risk of trading with them. There position in DT should be reconsidered in an straight forward espect.

I don't even think a neutrally judging person here would even care about it as much as giving a red trust by taking into consideration the current amount of fear from the virus to the world. I would better say save yourself first... check out the deaths in Italy !

i am italian and i am also a seller of localbitcoins. As much as my experience can count, I confirm that the company exists because I have purchased bitcoins on their atm several times and have always received them.

@CryptoLocalATM, why have you or your company not donated yourselves?  Say even $1,000 from your profits?

Thank you for the input, I suggest you may start a thread in the Italian board regarding this subject, the company claims to have physical ATMs in the streets of Italy, this shouldn't be too hard to confirm, I assume at least a few members in the Italian community can at least confirm/deny the existence of CryptoLocalATM's Bitcoin ATMs.

To this point, and based on the above evidence I presented in my previous reply, we know the forum member does actually use the same donation page from CryptoLocalATM website itself, so at this point, it's no longer a matter of the member's own integrity but the company itself.

I do not believe that you are engaged in fraud, I have already written about this before: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54065665 I see your real business that is connected with bitcoins. But the way you didn't approach fundraising professionally is surprising to me. According to the statistics on your site, you have collected $13 in 38 days. Such assistance will not be able to radically change the situation with the coronavirus. I think you need to focus your work on something more important.