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legendary
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January 04, 2022, 01:11:16 PM
#81


I'm not sure what your largely meaningless table is intended to convey. I assume the figures are nonsense, but even if they're not, then they don't say much as the number of instances of each treatment isn't included.

You're saying that if you have an adverse reaction to Ivermectin, there's a 10% chance it will end in death. And if you have an adverse reaction to a Covid vaccine, there's a 2% chance it will end in death. But what about the chances of an adverse reaction at all? All this table says is that adverse reactions to the Covid vaccine are much less serious on average than adverse reactions to the other listed treatments. And that's without taking into account that the figures are likely garbage anyway.

Or perhaps it's an anti-vaxxer website trying to be selective with the truth to hide the chances of an adverse reaction... but with a typical failure to understand basic maths, not realising they are undermining their own argument anyway in the deaths per adverse reaction figures. Perhaps next time they should just strip it back to the 'deaths/year' column?

And I have to say, that 'deaths/year' column is about the stupidest thing I've ever seen. So 1m Covid vaccines results in 21k deaths, and it's all delivered in 1 year, so 21k deaths/year... but if you space those 1m vaccines out over 10 years, and still have the same 21k deaths, then you now have 2k deaths/year... so what? It's 10x safer or something? FFS.

I'm sorry, this is just utterly moronic.

sr. member
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January 04, 2022, 12:21:40 PM
#80
Dead is one side effect, sometimes at the most inappropriate time.
This nice devil horned lady died on 12 31, 2021 (3333) 3 days after getting 3rd shot, she managed it to the rip old age of 99
legendary
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January 04, 2022, 10:49:36 AM
#79
VAERS

[...]

I have not heard of one legitimate instance of attempted mis-use of the system

Does willful misrepresentation of the data count as misuse? I've shared the notes around the limitations of VAERS data many times. And 'OpenVAERS' is another thing entirely, that's that site run by a lone anti-vaxxer nut-job, isn't it? Another subject that's been covered many, many times.

If you want to understand (but I suspect you don't), then you may find these links useful:
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-health/dont-fall-vaers-scare-tactic
https://www.logically.ai/articles/double-check-how-does-openvaers-misrepresent-data



Someone fed you some propaganda which doesn't pass any critical thinking test I'm afraid.

Quite.
sr. member
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January 04, 2022, 09:37:59 AM
#78
Finding unvaccinated good looking woman in future will be like winning lotto. It be like a caste system, purebloods and the certified trans-humans.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/vax-d-women-now-lying-about-vax-status-likely-infertile-they-deny-vax-to-get-husband
From the video

People at the moment

1    Those who believe in the narrative of the establishment and comply

2    Those who actually know its all bullshit and comply regardless

3    Those who are waking up to the lie, and are now not willing to comply

4    Those who knew it was all bullshit from the start and refused to a part of this madness
member
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January 04, 2022, 07:11:39 AM
#77
Covid-19 and vaccine advanced humanity into a new level of stupidity

legendary
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January 03, 2022, 04:02:24 PM
#76
...


I had to check to see if that was a real article or a joke from some comedy website like Babylon Bee.  It's real all right, and has even more solid gold within.  Both textual and graphic.

Check out the sheep pic within the story.  "One of these things is not like the others."

sr. member
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January 03, 2022, 02:05:17 PM
#75
I have other illness so at first im hesitant to be vaccinated but eventually I am convinced.
Other illness is not recognize like coronavirus and the vaccine of them can not be given the way covid19 vaccine is given in every country, i have look very well to some people problem they are tagging it covid19 illness or symptoms as other people may say about covid19, if any other sickness except coronavirus come to our bodies we are the one that supposed to in charge of it not government, some countries government have tried to support the country through providing the vaccines of covid but some people is still against the good effort of government why?
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January 03, 2022, 01:46:31 PM
#74
I have other illness so at first im hesitant to be vaccinated but eventually I am convinced.
Other illness is not recognize like coronavirus and the vaccine of them can not be given the way covid19 vaccine is given in every country, i have look very well to some people problem they are tagging it covid19 illness or symptoms as other people may say about covid19, if any other sickness except coronavirus come to our bodies we are the one that supposed to in charge of it not government, some countries government have tried to support the country through providing the vaccines of covid but some people is still against the good effort of government why?
legendary
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January 03, 2022, 11:40:41 AM
#73
Moderna 1st Dose I felt site soreness and maybe a little hot and flashy ---worked that day, only site pain the next day.

Cut and paste my 2nd dose...

Got my 2nd Moderna in May-- before going in to work, other than site pain and what felt like slight hot flashes I felt fine.
Next Day : felt slightly crappy, had a 6am- 6:45pm work shift so I felt really crappy by the end of the day --heavy and fatigued, slight hot flashes.
Next day no symptoms, arm pain fading.

Just got my flu shot a couple weeks ago---this one hurt equally to the covid shot (which is not usual but the administrator was new ;-)

So far with the information available I would be comfortable taking boosters for covid as needed.

Got a 3rd dose of Moderna on the 30th after work
Pain/burning when getting the shot but didn't get sore until later.
Felt Meh the next morning, slept in til 9ish, went and ran errands (hot and flashy a couple times and draggin' ass), felt better later in the day.
Today: I feel well and the arm is only sore when I bump into something while cleaning out the RV for the New Year!
If nothing changes, I'm planning to book the 3rd Pfizer dose somewhere in late January, but I've yet to schedule an appointment. My girlfriend is now positive to Covid-19, we live in the same house, and I've yet to contract it somehow. Supposing I don't get infected, I'll do it this month, on the other hand, if I do end up getting infected, I'll book it  somewhere in mid-February.

Stick with the same brand for your booster shot.

I took Moderna as my booster shot, having previously two shots of Pfizer, and I got a much stronger reaction than from Pfizer.

The first 12 hours were ok, then it hit me like a brick, the next day I felt weak, had to stay in bed for the whole day.  Had headaches, muscle, joint pain, chills, etc.

I took it on Jan 1st, now two days later, I am ok, still have a sore arm, but other symptoms are gone.

My first two shots of Pfizer did not give me such a strong reaction.
hero member
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January 01, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
#72
Moderna 1st Dose I felt site soreness and maybe a little hot and flashy ---worked that day, only site pain the next day.

Cut and paste my 2nd dose...

Got my 2nd Moderna in May-- before going in to work, other than site pain and what felt like slight hot flashes I felt fine.
Next Day : felt slightly crappy, had a 6am- 6:45pm work shift so I felt really crappy by the end of the day --heavy and fatigued, slight hot flashes.
Next day no symptoms, arm pain fading.

Just got my flu shot a couple weeks ago---this one hurt equally to the covid shot (which is not usual but the administrator was new ;-)

So far with the information available I would be comfortable taking boosters for covid as needed.

Got a 3rd dose of Moderna on the 30th after work
Pain/burning when getting the shot but didn't get sore until later.
Felt Meh the next morning, slept in til 9ish, went and ran errands (hot and flashy a couple times and draggin' ass), felt better later in the day.
Today: I feel well and the arm is only sore when I bump into something while cleaning out the RV for the New Year!
If nothing changes, I'm planning to book the 3rd Pfizer dose somewhere in late January, but I've yet to schedule an appointment. My girlfriend is now positive to Covid-19, we live in the same house, and I've yet to contract it somehow. Supposing I don't get infected, I'll do it this month, on the other hand, if I do end up getting infected, I'll book it  somewhere in mid-February.
legendary
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January 01, 2022, 03:43:11 PM
#71
I got've got two Pfizer shots. After first shot I did not have any bad effects, but after a second shot, like most people say, I had high temperature about 39' and felt destroyed for one or two days. After that, everything immediately normalized. My parents got third vaccine (booster). They are 60+ yo. As with first two dozes and in general, my father did not feel anything unusual. He even questioned, if he was given a real vaccine or just a placebo. But my mother was feeling bad for the whole week (high temp + weakness). She felt bad also after a second doze. My health condition is usually more close to my mother (dont remember when my dad was ill last time). So I am questioning myself, should I take a booster and cross out a week of my life ? Is it really that necessary? If not mistaken, booster will give me extra vaccine effect for 10 weeks only... (that info is from our local news media)
legendary
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January 01, 2022, 03:30:55 PM
#70
Whats amazing about these vaccines is the ability to mix n match  Cool

My first two were AZ, and third was Pfizer.

I had mild temperature fluctuations overnight from the first dose, nothing from the second as far as I recall. From the Pfizer dose, I just got a slightly sore arm a few hours later, not painful, just a little tender to the touch.
hero member
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Do due diligence
January 01, 2022, 03:05:34 PM
#69
Moderna 1st Dose I felt site soreness and maybe a little hot and flashy ---worked that day, only site pain the next day.

Cut and paste my 2nd dose...

Got my 2nd Moderna in May-- before going in to work, other than site pain and what felt like slight hot flashes I felt fine.
Next Day : felt slightly crappy, had a 6am- 6:45pm work shift so I felt really crappy by the end of the day --heavy and fatigued, slight hot flashes.
Next day no symptoms, arm pain fading.

Just got my flu shot a couple weeks ago---this one hurt equally to the covid shot (which is not usual but the administrator was new ;-)

So far with the information available I would be comfortable taking boosters for covid as needed.

Got a 3rd dose of Moderna on the 30th after work
Pain/burning when getting the shot but didn't get sore until later.
Felt Meh the next morning, slept in til 9ish, went and ran errands (hot and flashy a couple times and draggin' ass), felt better later in the day.
Today: I feel well and the arm is only sore when I bump into something while cleaning out the RV for the New Year!
hero member
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November 06, 2021, 12:02:43 PM
#68
I have other illness so at first im hesitant to be vaccinated but eventually I am convinced.

Pfizer is my vaccine, the first dose doesnt seem to have a side effect but in my second dose I got a mild fever that last the whole day. Its been 2 months since I got vaccinated and I can say that im fine. Just waiting for the third dose/booster since there's no announcement yet from the Government.
I'm also waiting on the booster shot, it will soon be launched for my age group. I didn't have any side effects on the first dose, only mild, like you mentioned during the second dose. I've read that the side effects of the booster shot are similar to the second's one.
hero member
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November 05, 2021, 07:45:23 AM
#67
I have other illness so at first im hesitant to be vaccinated but eventually I am convinced.

Pfizer is my vaccine, the first dose doesnt seem to have a side effect but in my second dose I got a mild fever that last the whole day. Its been 2 months since I got vaccinated and I can say that im fine. Just waiting for the third dose/booster since there's no announcement yet from the Government.

Whats amazing about these vaccines is the ability to mix n match  Cool
hero member
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November 04, 2021, 10:14:53 PM
#66
I have other illness so at first im hesitant to be vaccinated but eventually I am convinced.

Pfizer is my vaccine, the first dose doesnt seem to have a side effect but in my second dose I got a mild fever that last the whole day. Its been 2 months since I got vaccinated and I can say that im fine. Just waiting for the third dose/booster since there's no announcement yet from the Government.
legendary
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November 04, 2021, 03:29:33 PM
#65
This site essentially says that whatever VAERS shows must be multiplied by at least 100 to be anywhere near accurate https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf - but probably 300 or more.

ehm... I don't know if you're serious speaking or just trolling as usual about covid19  Shocked
but
VAERS is an OPEN SYSTEM where anyone can left anything he want.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/national-international/some-vaccine-skeptics-are-citing-a-little-known-government-website-heres-what-vaers-really-shows/2602989/
it's a well know platform OPEN to everyone.
thanks to be "open" is pretty full of fake/dummy/troll/idiot that have inserted fake/dummy/troll/idiot data.
you believe this number "death" it should be multiplied by 100x ?!? Roll Eyes

LOL Grin


It is required by law for every medical professional to use VAERS, yet very few have even heard of it.  That partially explains why the reporting rate was found by Harvard to be less than 1%.  Harvard (through a health care system for the organization) had some ideas about how to make the system work better.  When they tried to engage the CDC about this, they literally had none of their calls returned and the CDC would have no further engagement with them.  The CDC seems to have the system working just the way they want.

As of the plandemic it has been discouraged to use the system by hospital administration in some cases (although I've heard the complaints well before the plandemic since I studied vaccine programs long before this.)  Many whistlblowers speak to this as one of the reasons for the under-reporting.

The data insertion framework is deliberately screwed up to discourage filing.  If a time-out hits, all previous data is deleted forcing one to start over again.  This would pretty much have to be a feature rather than a bug.

Information is followed up on by the CDC before it is made publicly available as I understand things.  In fact, one of the main complaints that users have is that the CDC does not follow up in a timely manner and sometimes not at all.  Many who analyze this data have noted that reports are sometimes withheld for months before suddenly appearing.

Lastly, on every page there is a giant warning saying that mis-use is a federal crime.  It is highly unlikely that normal bored kids, bots, etc, would be messing around with the system in this way, and any thinking person should be scared shit-less that they will be tracked down.  It is possible and relatively easy to detect and discriminate out things like VPN's and the like, or have some sort of an e-mailed PIN or URL if fraud was a problem.

I have not heard of one legitimate instance of attempted mis-use of the system as you describe whether successful or not.  It really doesn't make sense that there would be given that follow-up is required.  Someone fed you some propaganda which doesn't pass any critical thinking test I'm afraid.

legendary
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November 04, 2021, 02:53:03 PM
#64
This site essentially says that whatever VAERS shows must be multiplied by at least 100 to be anywhere near accurate https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf - but probably 300 or more.

ehm... I don't know if you're serious speaking or just trolling as usual about covid19  Shocked
but
VAERS is an OPEN SYSTEM where anyone can left anything he want.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/national-international/some-vaccine-skeptics-are-citing-a-little-known-government-website-heres-what-vaers-really-shows/2602989/
it's a well know platform OPEN to everyone.
thanks to be "open" is pretty full of fake/dummy/troll/idiot that have inserted fake/dummy/troll/idiot data.
you believe this number "death" it should be multiplied by 100x ?!? Roll Eyes

LOL Grin
legendary
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November 04, 2021, 01:29:51 PM
#63
I think that all user's replies are related only too 1st or 2nd shot.
Has anyone already received a "third shot"? if yes, any Adverse Event? Any difference respect other 2 dosage?
(please note, I am asking just for "scientific curiosity" ... not other purpose... )


I don't directly know about the third, but...

This site essentially says that whatever VAERS shows must be multiplied by at least 100 to be anywhere near accurate https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf - but probably 300 or more.

This site essentially shows the deaths and side effects from the vaccines - https://openvaers.com/covid-data - that the CDC allows through. There are plenty here, and way more when multiplied by the numbers above. In addition, the CDC has rules that limit the deaths count... like the deaths must fall within or without so many days after the getting the jab. They are trying to limit their liability.

To put it into perspective, if the breakfast cereal, Cheerios, killed a dozen people, GM would take it off the market just like that. This points to the fact that most of the Covid sick people these days are sick after getting the vaccine. And that points to the fact that the more the jabs, the more the Covid.

Why does our government still believe the CDC?

Cool
legendary
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November 04, 2021, 02:13:50 AM
#62
I think that all user's replies are related only too 1st or 2nd shot.
Has anyone already received a "third shot"? if yes, any Adverse Event? Any difference respect other 2 dosage?
(please note, I am asking just for "scientific curiosity" ... not other purpose... )
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