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Topic: Covid 19 Where it Come from? - page 3. (Read 786 times)

newbie
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September 01, 2020, 06:45:10 AM
#25
News all over the world says it starts from China..
hero member
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August 31, 2020, 11:21:24 PM
#24
The epicenter of this virus is Wuhan China so it might really started from there.

Though there are many hearsays that it was plan and made as weapon of china to other countries, there's still no evidence backing it up.

I think what matters now is to stop this virus from spreading so we can somehow return to how we live our life before this virus occur.
sr. member
Activity: 2618
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August 31, 2020, 11:10:11 PM
#23
No one really knows.

Someone may claim they know, but they never get any evidence...
Don't worry this will all address once the virus got cure,Surely the whole world will never stop pointing who's responsible about this pandemic.

After lots of people die?All country will never stop finding for the involved here.
legendary
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August 31, 2020, 02:51:14 PM
#22
There are those in medical research who say that viruses are really exosomes that come from out own cells. There are many who deny this. The research to determine what is true is very complex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4pJaGJgkA

Watch the videos here https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/.

Cool
newbie
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August 31, 2020, 07:37:26 AM
#21
No one really knows.

Someone may claim they know, but they never get any evidence...
sr. member
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August 31, 2020, 07:34:08 AM
#20
Op statement is hypothetical, because where it comes from has got two meanings, its origin of virus or the origin of spread of infection?

Whatever to the knowledge known, the virus is already existing like that of rhinovirus (causing common cold) but it becomes more serious and found fatal reported initially in the city of wuhan, China. COVID-19 spread is through air droplets. Until now there is no evidence stating its start location. Everything is done on some selective predictions.
sr. member
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August 31, 2020, 01:28:24 AM
#19
Who was the Person or group who made covid virus?  And Why?  And Where it come from?
It takes alot resources to unleash virus like this
So how Come cia FBI mossad mi6 fsb and other secret Service groups could not prevent this virus?

They bragging that they know everything and how good they are hunting down terrorist...
But this time?  How Come they let this evil to be unleashed? 




Too many question about this but what we need now is the cure,Of Course this came from China as the first infected people are Chinese.
There are some stories but who knows whats the truth behind?

For now let us face first this Problem and answer those questions after solving this because for sure authorities all over the world will never stop to make pay if there is someone guilty for this.
legendary
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August 30, 2020, 10:03:07 PM
#18
Do two things for both of us to help us prove that viruses exist:
1. Listen to Dr. Kaufman, starting about 37 minutes into the video - https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/vids/Hippocratic%20Hypocrisy.m4v. Listen for about 10 minutes;
2. Find us a medical investigation report, that shows the necessary steps of the methods for finding an actual virus. Point to the spot in the report, and make sure that it doesn't flub things up the way Dr. Kaufman says that the reports flub things up.

Dr. Kaufman and I would like to see that report, and we would like to be able to contact the maker(s) of the report, and the researcher(s) who did the study.

I certainly don't have the expertise to dispute Dr. Kaufman, but he believes that all of the doctors and medical researchers in the world are participating in some grand conspiracy, which is ridiculous. So, I really can't believe anything that he says, especially when it goes against so many facts that are otherwise undisputed.

It is surprising to me that you totally reject the Flat Earth conspiracy, but you totally embrace this one. Both are equally ridiculous to me.
legendary
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August 30, 2020, 03:46:16 PM
#17
Your whole post is BS. Simple google searches debunk everything you wrote.

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1. The EM can see only "dead" viruses;
2. We still don't really know where the viruses come from;
3. It is only assumption that makes us think that viruses are doing damage;
4. Viruses could be exosomes that are expelled by our own cells to help with immune reactions.
...

1. BS (Images of active viruses taken with an electron microscope). Furthermore, it is not clear if viruses can even be considered alive in the first place (Are Viruses Alive?)
2. Viruses contain DNA and RNA, so they probably evolved just like everything else with DNA and RNA (DNA viruses, RNA viruses
3. It is not an "assumption". It is well-studied and documented. Viruses kill as they take over cells as part of the replication process. Influenza Replication Process
4. You are obviously speculating. Sources?

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What do we assume? That viruses are dangerous. But we don't have any real knowledge that this is the fact.
...

Covid-19 has killed nearly 200,000 people in the U.S. That is a fact.

...
we are finding I claim that many of the assumptions we have had about viruses are dubious at best. FTFY
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Much/most of our info about what Covid is and where it came from, is entirely based on assumptions that we are finding out I claim are wrong. FTFY

Such as?


Do two things for both of us to help us prove that viruses exist:
1. Listen to Dr. Kaufman, starting about 37 minutes into the video - https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/vids/Hippocratic%20Hypocrisy.m4v. Listen for about 10 minutes;
2. Find us a medical investigation report, that shows the necessary steps of the methods for finding an actual virus. Point to the spot in the report, and make sure that it doesn't flub things up the way Dr. Kaufman says that the reports flub things up.

Dr. Kaufman and I would like to see that report, and we would like to be able to contact the maker(s) of the report, and the researcher(s) who did the study.

Thank you.

Cool
jr. member
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August 30, 2020, 10:35:03 AM
#16
I read an article before that they found the zero case(the first one who got it) in China but they didn't reveal more information about it and it's a secret person.
member
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August 30, 2020, 02:49:02 AM
#15
Sadly, all we can do is speculate. But since it came from Wuhan, perhaps we can narrow down our speculations to that area. If it's really not the fault of the Chinese people who were in Wuhan at the time of the incident and the theory that other nationalities may have been involved, every suspicious foreign national who was in Wuhan at least 2 months before the outbreak must be investigated. As to how that should be done, I don't really know. But that's the best way to find leads.
member
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August 29, 2020, 11:16:07 PM
#14

They bragging that they know everything and how good they are hunting down terrorist...
But this time?  How Come they let this evil to be unleashed?  


We know it came out of Wuhan, China. But unfortunately there is no free, independent research team on the ground look into this issue. China didn't allow scientist from WHO and other countries to come into China and do test. Also, it might be possible the intelligence know more than they make public. Probably a lot of things happening in secret and the public will only know in 50 years.

are you sure?  
the WHO scientists been arrived in China from Jan to Feb,  they said China didn't allow since the scientists are not allowed by USA gov, but never mind, they have quit WHO.
And as I know, the USA is the only country didn't allow the investigation when all other counties allowed at a United Nations committee meeting,

that's all pubulic news, not me created the fake news!

The research has found the virus been in Eroupe before China,  and there are still many questions about the Vape Illless (White Lung Disease) only happened in America since vaping is popular all over the world!

legendary
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August 29, 2020, 08:07:08 PM
#13
They have found traces of the virus in sewage samples from Europe that predate the published Wuhan cases. Of course that doesn't mean that it wasn't in China at the same time.

My sister got very sick with covid-19 symptoms in December shortly after a flight from Jakarta and before the official start of the epidemic. Was it covid-19? No way to know, but she could have come into contact with someone from Wuhan (or someone on the way to Wuhan!)
legendary
Activity: 4438
Merit: 3387
August 29, 2020, 08:00:00 PM
#12
Your whole post is BS. Simple google searches debunk everything you wrote.

...
1. The EM can see only "dead" viruses;
2. We still don't really know where the viruses come from;
3. It is only assumption that makes us think that viruses are doing damage;
4. Viruses could be exosomes that are expelled by our own cells to help with immune reactions.
...

1. BS (Images of active viruses taken with an electron microscope). Furthermore, it is not clear if viruses can even be considered alive in the first place (Are Viruses Alive?)
2. Viruses contain DNA and RNA, so they probably evolved just like everything else with DNA and RNA (DNA viruses, RNA viruses
3. It is not an "assumption". It is well-studied and documented. Viruses kill as they take over cells as part of the replication process. Influenza Replication Process
4. You are obviously speculating. Sources?

...
What do we assume? That viruses are dangerous. But we don't have any real knowledge that this is the fact.
...

Covid-19 has killed nearly 200,000 people in the U.S. That is a fact.

...
we are finding I claim that many of the assumptions we have had about viruses are dubious at best. FTFY
...
Much/most of our info about what Covid is and where it came from, is entirely based on assumptions that we are finding out I claim are wrong. FTFY

Such as?
sr. member
Activity: 2338
Merit: 365
August 29, 2020, 04:33:36 PM
#11
You are asking here do viruses come from? Virus were already infecting plants and animals long before humans showed up.

Coronaviruses aren't new. Scientists have been tracking them for a long time.

true, coronavirus is not new, it has been researched for a long time...
Even though it's still vague, I believe more in the news broadcast by Time and other large magazines that are more valid, it is said that the Covid-19 virus is a mutation of the SARS virus that has plagued China in 2003.
full member
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Merit: 146
August 29, 2020, 03:52:28 PM
#10
Who was the Person or group who made covid virus?  And Why?  And Where it come from?
It takes alot resources to unleash virus like this
So how Come cia FBI mossad mi6 fsb and other secret Service groups could not prevent this virus?

They bragging that they know everything and how good they are hunting down terrorist...
But this time?  How Come they let this evil to be unleashed? 

Covid 19 isn't a human to trace down by the so called secret services, it was created by the nature and the virus itself gets mutated from time to time.Do you think this world belongs to human alone? Not really!

Still there is no confirmation about its origin but the whole world is suspecting China and they also have been shady with handling the virus earlier.
legendary
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August 29, 2020, 02:45:04 PM
#9
Viruses in general were invented by some researchers back in the mid-1800s. They couldn't find anything that was causing some of the illnesses back then, so they invented the idea that there was something that was so tiny that it couldn't be seen. This "something" was what was doing the damage, and later was come to be known by the word "virus." They never had any proof for it.

The first microscope that could see viruses was the "electron microscope" (EM). And the first of these was invented in 1931. Now viruses could be seen, finally. However, even though the tiny objects that we call viruses have been seen:
1. The EM can see only "dead" viruses;
2. We still don't really know where the viruses come from;
3. It is only assumption that makes us think that viruses are doing damage;
4. Viruses could be exosomes that are expelled by our own cells to help with immune reactions.

In other words, all the info about viruses for more than the last 150 years is assumptive. Each piece of scientific knowledge about viruses is built on something that came before. Most of the pieces of knowledge are assumptive, and the whole basic idea that they are all built on is assumptive. What do we assume? That viruses are dangerous. But we don't have any real knowledge that this is the fact.

Now, with the advent of the Microsphere Nanoscope (in 2011), where we can view living viruses in color, while they live and move in living cell tissue, we are finding that many of the assumptions we have had about viruses are dubious at best.

The point? Much/most of our info about what Covid is and where it came from, is entirely based on assumptions that we are finding out are wrong.

Cool
legendary
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August 29, 2020, 11:13:02 AM
#8
They have found traces of the virus in sewage samples from Europe that predate the published Wuhan cases. Of course that doesn't mean that it wasn't in China at the same time.
hero member
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August 29, 2020, 11:01:43 AM
#7
As the others said, we don't know where it came from, but I heard that the virus from the animal market in Wuhan (if I am not mistaken). But I think the virus comes out because of the leak from the lab in Wuhan, and the virus attacks people in that city. The virus can finally spread to other countries because many people visit other countries, which makes the virus spread in almost all countries. But maybe what we all read from the news is speculation because China doesn't let another country investigate it.
jr. member
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August 29, 2020, 10:10:46 AM
#6
This is where the coronavirus was first caught. This is the first time that Uhan is trying to suppress this virus. As a result, many people think that it is necessary to find the source. The question of how and where the virus originated has now become a major tool in the propaganda war between China and the United States. And the question that comes up again and again is, is the source of the virus natural - as most scientists think - or has the virus come out of a lab?
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