Topic: CPU mining (Read 4591 times)

yeah, and I'm also not storing vital scientific research or CIA records on my computer, either

like i said earlier, the vast majority of the ppl that request ECC ram, are wasting their money

though actually, back in the day,  nearly all RAM was ECC, wasn't it?  i think they removed it for performance gains

Not that you know of. There could be a couple of bits wrong that you've never noticed.

i can understand enterprise grade HDD's and such for regular business use

not ECC RAM

it doesn't have anything to do with what I want to do, it has to do with how often failure of RAM causes data loss.  i have not had it happen once, since my first PC/XT in '87

Many interesting articles on that blog - I encourage everyone to give it a look. There'll be something explained there that you didn't know much about.

Mining with CPU is inefficient.   Since GPU mining started the network hash rate hash made it so that CPU mining generates very little value.  With the new ASIC miner hitting the markets the GPU mining is over.

I wrote a blog article that will help you understand the value of mining hash rate as it compares to the network hash rate : http://bitcoinsbs.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/how-much-mhash-does-it-take-to-mine-1-btc/

Then to understand the mining hash rate of the mining devices look here : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

If you are interested in ASIC mining, there are two companies Butterfly Labs and Avalon that seem to be the way to go.  You'll be on a waiting list for either company.

For a comparison with CPU mining you might get 10 MH/sec, GPU depending on the card up to 800 MH.s with lots of power consumption,  FPGA you'll get less power consumption and just as high of rates for the money.  The cost of power is an issue at the present time.  ASIC change that some as they use a lot less power.  ASIC run about 60 GH/s depending on the unit.  Avalons 60 GH unit uses about 600w and BFL 60 GH unit is supposed to only use 60w.

Hope this helps.

I know this is way off topic - but there is a good reason most servers use Xeon's and ECC ram... it's called reliability.

Sure, I understand that perhaps for what you want to do, that combination doesn't work very well, but don't diss hosting companies for using something reliable for services that need to be... well... reliable

I've been with 4 diff hosting companies, and Hetzner has been the best...   despite it being the cheapest...   yeah, there are setup costs, but you can also avoid those doing the serverbidding (the selection seems a little weak nowadays however)..  the customer support is better than 2 of those other 3... at least you get a response within a day.   last time I had some software issue and tech responded within an hr saying that they can't help at all with software problems on unmanaged servers, so he hooked up their LARA.  i fixed the problem, and was also able to change the BIOS.  so it was like win/win

i was sad to see that nearly all of OVH's offerings in Canada are Xeons.  It's damn near impossible to find any hosting company in the US that has high end i7's....

US needs a Hetzner and less overpriced Xeons and ECC RAM...  jesus frowns upon ECC RAM, which costs 2x as much for some feature that Intel just disables on desktop memory...   when was the last time you lost data from memory failure?  i haven't in... well.... forever.   yes, there are certain circumstances where you'd want it (very, very, very important data), but I suspect they wouldnt apply to 98% of the people that get it.   likewise, xeons cost 2-4x as much as similar i7's, without any huge benefits... unless you want to pay even more to add a second.   even then, you'd have to be doing something like running a ton of virtual machines for it to be worth it.

i spent months looking for a decent US provider.  there is one in Kansas City (I think that's probably the one EMC uses), though I forget the name...  other than that, you've basically got a few European companies that have US centers

I hope you're on a dedicated server.  If you're on a VPS, you should be sentenced to death for mining on it.



Hetzner is a relatively cheap german hosting company.  It's actually the host for Deepbit and the DE server for BTC Guild.

I'm confused. I don't know what a hetzner is. Is it the German conglomerate that also pays you to eat nacho cheese chalupas?

hetzner doesn't charge me more for using more cpu cycles

3 nacho cheese chalupas cost negative money? They pay you to eat them? I wouldn't eat anything you're paid to eat, seriously.

That's enough for 3 nacho cheese chalupas

$4~6/month is hardly "cash money".  The CPU burns more than that in electricity each week.

Off topic, but are you the same Blazr on BTCJAM (https://btcjam.com/users/150)?

The best and most profitable way to CPU mine is........DON'T!

It's not worth the extra electricity usage + the huge wear and tear its doing to your CPU.

my CPU gets about 35mhash/s

add that to 30mhash from my hetzner machine , and  that's cash money

Yes, you're right.

I didn't think to figure out how long it would take (on average) to create a share. At 5 Mhps and D = 3000000, that's about 100 shares / day or 0.0008333333 btc (at current D) and 1.4c (at current BTCUSD), and would have cost about a dollar or two of electricity. I'm sure even a botnet owner could find more lucrative ways to use their herd of cpus. Even for non botnet owners that don't pay for electricity, you could probably earn more through free bitcoin sites.

I know you're trying to help organofcorti...but please, never tell somebody how to CPU mine .  They suck up the same pool resources as GPUs (or worse with some CPU miners), and they're simply wasting [or in most cases, stealing] electricity.  You can't even "test" mining with a CPU these days, you'll never earn enough BTC to be able to spend it anywhere.

If you CPU mine, you'll lose money and earn minimal coin.

Assuming you're not trolling for the hell of it, try using using BitMinter: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1050-th-bitmintercom-1-pplnspays-txfees-mergedminingstratumgbtvardiff-27062

They have a simple client that will allow CPU mining.

Uh, use your own bandwidth.

Goodbye