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sr. member
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Don't trust people like Craig. They are just as much liars as those who claim to be the new Jesus.
legendary
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We all know that Craig Wright aka Faketoshi admitted he ''lost'' access for Satoshi's coins, but now he is claiming that access for Tulip Trust coins is also lost, what a strange coincidence.
Wright claims that hackers entered his house and stole Tulip Trust private keys from his personal computer, so it looks like that Tulip Trust is equal Craig Wright and I see no other reason for keys to be on his personal computer.
They imagine some sci-fi scenario in whitch miners will be forced by court to reassign control of Satoshi's coins to Wright.



It's really hilarious reading his posts on his version on twitter, he claims that Bitcoin can do global transaction for every system, facebook, google, twitter, cash, and he is offering 100 million dollars if someone discredit his claims...
Craig even posted a photo last month claiming this is the shed where Bitcoin first started... next to the tractor in his village I guess Cheesy


https://twitter.com/DrWrightQuotes/status/1425427000748093440
legendary
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Thread-puller extraordinaire

"Notable (1):

- Craig claimed that these addresses + private keys were locked in the Tulip Trust


- Coins started moving AFTER Steve Shadders created the "Shadders List" in June 2019 "

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1354068680951418884


*Every single 'gotcha' piece of evidence which proves Craig to be a liar and a fraud*

CSW: "I was hacked"

legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1722
https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
Tweets from the twittersphere:

"#Faketoshi Fun Fact

Did you know that Craig's Tulip Trust list that he handed Kleiman's counsel a year ago*, now contains 145 signings "Craig Wright is a liar and a fraud", but also has no less than 8 moved miner subsidies?

*
https://courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.512.7.pdf

The dates that happened: "

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1354068679290458113



Source: https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1354068679290458113

...

"Notable (1):

- Craig claimed that these addresses + private keys were locked in the Tulip Trust


- Coins started moving AFTER Steve Shadders created the "Shadders List" in June 2019 "

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1354068680951418884

...

"Notable (2):

- When Craig handed this list (suspected to be a subset of Shadders List, as it includes the infamous "Shadders Bug") to Kleiman's counsel in January 2020, he forgot to check if all miner subsidies were still present. Already 3 had moved!


End. "

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1354068682176163840
legendary
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Craig was a fraud from day one. I'm surprised that anyone really believed his words.

In my opinion sometimes people need something or someone to believe in order to fill in their thoughts with something, especially when they are not engaged. It is something like just for fun. Humans like to get bread and circuses. Personally for me it does not played a great role who that man was, is or turned out to be. Of course it is funny to read such kind of statements - I am real Satoshi and here are my proofs, and more funny when the truth is opened. But there are so many stories like that and even in case one of them appeared to be a real Satoshi, it would not have a great impact on the very very nature of the Bitcoin.

correct, we dont need to know who Satoshi is/was.

Eventhough nobody knew Satoshi on a personal level or ever met him knowingly we all
know Satoshi would never act in the way CSW acted or acts, thats the bottom line.

Satoshi has/had class and intelligence and designed something for the common good,
not just for their own benefit.

In my opinion sometimes people need something or someone to believe in order to fill in their thoughts with something, especially when they are not engaged. It is something like just for fun. Humans like to get bread and circuses. Personally for me it does not played a great role who that man was, is or turned out to be. Of course it is funny to read such kind of statements - I am real Satoshi and here are my proofs, and more funny when the truth is opened. But there are so many stories like that and even in case one of them appeared to be a real Satoshi, it would not have a great impact on the very very nature of the Bitcoin.
sr. member
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Craig was a fraud from day one. I'm surprised that anyone really believed his words.

In my opinion sometimes people need something or someone to believe in order to fill in their thoughts with something, especially when they are not engaged. It is something like just for fun. Humans like to get bread and circuses. Personally for me it does not played a great role who that man was, is or turned out to be. Of course it is funny to read such kind of statements - I am real Satoshi and here are my proofs, and more funny when the truth is opened. But there are so many stories like that and even in case one of them appeared to be a real Satoshi, it would not have a great impact on the very very nature of the Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1722
https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
A fraudtoshi employed zombie managed to get himself on TV talking about "bitcoin":

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6213910847001/?playlist_id=933116618001#sp=show-clips

That was a wee bit awkward, and good thing that it was less than 2.5 minutes to watch/listen to it.  

Difficult to know whether the conversation was purposefully cut short by Fox because usually those kinds of interviews tend to be short and to the point, anyway.

Nguyen did not really say anything that was technically inaccurate - but whatever he was saying seemed to be fighting with logic, in terms of what gives bitcoin value.. and maybe including attempting to give some kind of meaningful context to current BTC price dynamics.

Indeed. Jimmy Nguyen of the fake Bitcoin (BSV) association doing a fine job of confirming that the original Bitcoin is BTC.

...

"Jimmy Nguyen on Fox Business today.

While the real Bitcoin was discussed & shown, he didn't get a chance to shill his affinity scam token, the host cut him right off!"




- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1334594347485048840


...

"I'm somewhat of a bullsh*ter myself, but occasionally I enjoy listening to an expert [citation needed], please do continue ..." - SWIM  Cheesy

...

Best of luck with SPENDL before HODL ...


...

...snip...

One definition of money and currency includes;

- Medium of Exchange
- A Unit of Account
- Portable
- Durable
- Divisible
- Fungible (Interchangeable)

Money has one main additional property than currency;

- Store of Value

...snip...

Bitcoin being BTC is the original cryptocurrency: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System.

BSV and BCH are counterfeit derivatives of BTC.

It's in the BSV license Jimmy ...

- hxxps://github.com/bitcoin-sv/bitcoin-sv/blob/master/LICENSE

"... The Bitcoin SV blockchains are defined, for purposes of this license, as the Bitcoin blockchain containing block height #556767 with the hash "000000000000000001d956714215d96ffc00e0afda4cd0a96c96f8d802b1662b" ..."

 Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3920
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
A fraudtoshi employed zombie managed to get himself on TV talking about "bitcoin":

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6213910847001/?playlist_id=933116618001#sp=show-clips

That was a wee bit awkward, and good thing that it was less than 2.5 minutes to watch/listen to it. 

Difficult to know whether the conversation was purposefully cut short by Fox because usually those kinds of interviews tend to be short and to the point, anyway.

Nguyen did not really say anything that was technically inaccurate - but whatever he was saying seemed to be fighting with logic, in terms of what gives bitcoin value.. and maybe including attempting to give some kind of meaningful context to current BTC price dynamics.
legendary
Activity: 3836
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
staff
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A fraudtoshi employed zombie managed to get himself on TV talking about "bitcoin":

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6213910847001/?playlist_id=933116618001#sp=show-clips
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1722
https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
Shower thought. Did Kevin Pham actually believe Craig Wright was THE Satoshi, or did he join along, and play the part of the apostle to trick newbies into buying his Bcash-SV in exchange for what they truly want, the Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
TLDR?

I believe that the community has now become tired, and bored of Craig Wright. It was fun during the escalation, with the outlandish claims, and the stupid mishaps. Like reading a comic book.

Plus his top acolyte has raised the white flag.





Just hang in there Kevin..

There will be another pump...


Don't give up.   Cry Cry Cry
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
TLDR?

I believe that the community has now become tired, and bored of Craig Wright. It was fun during the escalation, with the outlandish claims, and the stupid mishaps. Like reading a comic book.

Plus his top acolyte has raised the white flag.



legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1722
https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
A tweet storm from the twittersphere ...

"Thread about the next Omnibus Order in Kleiman v Wright. What is allowed to mention at trial next year, and what isn't?"
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1329184549562150913


"#Faketoshi #CSW #BSV Case Update

https://courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.623.0.pdf

OMNIBUS ORDER
Defendant’s Motion in Limine, [490]
Plaintiffs’ Omnibus Motion in Limine, [497]
The Court has considered ... is otherwise fully advised.

1/11"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180598888443909

"A. Def Motion

i. Prior judicial statements
Def requests the Court “exclude at trial any mention of any prior judicial statements about his credibility.

Motion is granted as to the prior judicial statements above. Only these portions excluded.

2/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180605712650243





"ii. Australian Tax Office’s audits
Def requests the Court to exclude evidence relating to the ATO audits of non-party Australian companies

Motion is denied. The parties may address the specific evidence and objections to ATO evidence, as appropriate, when arise at trial.

3/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180607826579456

"B. Plaintiffs’ Motion

i. Motion in limine issue #1
Plaintiffs request the Court exclude testimony about Ira relationship with his brother.

Motions is granted. Evidence about Ira's relationship with Mr. Kleiman is excluded except as to the Thanksgiving Day conversations.

4/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180609239986176

"ii. Issue 2
Plaintiffs next seek to preclude Defendant from "contradicting judicially admitted documents."

Plaintiffs’ Motion as to issue #2 is denied.

5/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180611085561862

"iii. Issue 3
Plaintiffs request the Court preclude Defendant from "selectively claiming his computers were hacked or his documents were forged.”

"system exists to expose weak defenses, shaky theories, and less-than-credible assertions"

Motion as to Issue 3 denied.

6/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180613178429440

"iv. Issue 4
Def produced ~2000 docs after his depo and expert cutoff. Seek Order precluding Def using docs at trial or have (CSW) sit for another deposition so they may explore the new info, update their expert disclosures if necessary.

Motion as to issue 4 denied.

7/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180614680080384

"v. Issue 5
Plaintiffs next seek to preclude Defendant from putting forth any evidence or testimony that Mr. Kleiman committed suicide.

Plaintiffs’ Motion on this point is granted.

8/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180617460813828

"vi. Issue 6
Plaintiffs request an order precluding Defendant from presenting evidence or testimony regarding Mr. Kleiman’s drug use and social habits.

Plaintiff’s Motion as to issue #6 is granted in part and denied in part.

9/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180618895273984

"vii. Issue 7
Plaintiffs seek to exclude testimony or references to alleged abuse and traumatic events Defendant suffered during his childhood.

Plaintiffs’ Motion as to issue #7 is granted.

10/n"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180620296253442

"And that pretty much sums it all up.
Pages 4-8 are the best!

Can't wait to see this play out in court at trail!
Can't wait to see Craig #Faketoshi Wright get dominated by @VelvelFreedman
 and team!

Hopefully due to COVID it's live streamed!

11/11"

- https://twitter.com/mark_rex_h/status/1329180621613260801

EDIT: additional ...

member
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Then the real Bitcoin will Rise From obscurity. 


If you tell me the name of this real bitcorn I will send you moar merit   Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3920
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Bitcoin BTC is the real Titanic. Lol

Enjoy the pump to $50k+.  It should be as epic as the devastating crash.  

Is it going to stop at $50k+, whatever that means?  $50k is nearly 3x from here, and you do not stop at $50k because you put a little plus in there...

Sounds like such a bad investment.

And, sure a 80% pump or something like that is possible, but if we have BIGGER institutional investors coming into bitcoin, there may be less stomache for 80% dumps and more willingness to support some of those bottoms, so maybe we get 50% to 66% short-term, but they are not necessarily long term bottoms.

I surely do not claim to know the future, but buying support is increasing, and your ongoing doom and gloom proclamations, Vlad2Vlad seem to be less and less borne out by actual facts, and even you have trouble painting even a very good doom and gloom scenario when you are largely suggesting up to $50k plus from here....

We need better trolls.  You're fired!!!!


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

$50K+ means minimum $50k and I’ve been saying this since last years crash.  It’s possible it hits $80-$100k.  Only insiders know.  

Huh?  You are making even less sense.

You believe that there is some kind of "insider" who actually knows where the BTC price is going with some kind of precision?  That's nonsense.

Of course, there are a variety of BTC price direction theories and there are a variety of BIG players who can attempt to push the BTC price, and some folks have better ideas than others.. but anyone who tries to paint pictures of certainty.. including your seeming nonsense about a price crash has to happen or we are going to $50k for sure, blah blah blah.. is just riddled with too much certainty in the language that you use to try to spread your riddle of messages.

And it has nothing to do with buying support it has to do with the fact that bitcoin btc will die or be nothing more than a niche coin.  

That makes no sense, either... not based on actual facts, except you are trying to pump some kind of false narrative that there is some kind of better coin out there that is going to take over for bitcoin because bitcoin is flawed in some kind of meaningful way.. yeah right?  Nonsense.

And I’ve been saying this and predicted this chaos for 7 years, I just expected it to happen in 1-2 years.  

Good.  If you keep saying the same thing, then maybe at some point you will be right...

How has the last 7 years been going for you?  Have you been adequately preparing for UP in terms of your own personal investments?

I have been in BTC for about 7 years, too, and it has ended up being my best investment of a lifetime..   quite a great thing to invest into, as long as preparing for UP, overall... and taking reasonable stances such as DCA-ing into it, which has largely been my strategy.

So you could have been some bumbfuck poor lil bastard 7 years ago who just invested regularly into BTC and done quite well for yourself, and would have been a reasonable approach.

What was your approach Vlad2Vlad?  Were you reasonable, or did you do dumb things?  Or are you saying that you always bet correctly?  You bought at the bottom and sold at the top, etc etc blah blah blah?

What would have been a reasonable approach to BTC 7 years ago? in the interrim passing of time?  and now?  Has the investment thesis for bitcoin gotten weaker over those 7 years? stronger? or stayed the same? 

If you are trying to treat bitcoin's investment thesis as if it is the same god damned thing as it was 7 years ago, then you are no better than a broken record, and you are going to need to up your game and up your nonsense talking points.

There have been a lot of improvement in the information that is available out there for regular peeps to learn about bitcoin, but there are still nonsense and misleading bullshit like your spoutings out there, too.

I have been noticing some of your posts in recent times, and they seem to be more about you attempting to proclaim that you have some kind of insider knowledge rather than you really trying to grapple with facts, logic and/or helping anyone (such as normies) to actually attempt to understand the space better, including bitcoin... and sure, maybe you don't have any such intention to help anyone to understand bitcoin, which actually seems to be what is driving your ongoing nonsensical posts.

Bitcoin btc has failed to adapt,

How?  You mean as a payment mechanism?  merchant adoption?  or you talking about something else?

Do you even know what bitcoin is and what it might be adapting to?

If I hold BTC and you want to buy some BTC from me, provide a service or sell me something, can we transact?  Maybe if you want to sell me something that only costs less than $100 or some small amount, then it might NOT be very practical to use BTC, even though we could, if we wanted to... but anyhow, I still wonder in which ways bitcoin has been failing in the past 7 years or more?

For me, it seems to be doing way better than I had expected in terms of a lot of measurements of the threat vectors to its success, and sure there are governments and traditional finances that would like to squash or cause bitcoin to be less powerful.. and so some of those battles are still among us.. but at the same time, the ongoing buying pressures from BIGGER and BIGGER players does seem to be given credence to the buy pressure and buy support thesis rather than your vague (and seeming contrary to facts) doom and gloom thesis.


there will be a black swan event to kill it and its network will be attacked and many will lose all their btc.

Sure... right.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

It is easy as fuck to be predicting some kind of unspecified doom and gloom swan event.. and keep hoping that maybe, just maybe you will be correct..

Keep predicting that nonsense, Vlad2Vlad, and see where it is going to get you in terms of really being prepared for the future.

For anyone who might be afraid that some kind of black swan event might come to bitcoin, it is much better for them to figure out some kind of reasonable allocation in bitcoin, such as 1% to 10% of their investment portfolio, and then to figure out a way to either let it ride or to reallocate from time to time if they believe that there might be some prudence or benefit in reallocation.. instead of failing to invest or underinvesting in BTC based on some kind of vague and unspecified nonsense ideas that you are spouting out.

Then the real Bitcoin will Rise From obscurity.

The real bitcoin is already rising, you dumb twat.

 And you’ll kick yourself in da nuts for being a follower.  

you mean bcash SV?  or some other stupid ass corruption fork?

Now give me some merits for this genius advice, I need MOAR!!!

Begging is not becoming, and anyhow, you hardly even provided any kind of ideas that make any sense in the actual world, beyond that you have some kind of trolling/shilling agenda...

Furthermore, your ideas, to the extent that you might have any seem to just cause work for me or other people like me to have to clarify the various misleading shit (contrary to facts, contrary to logic.. and not even good opinions) that seems to be coming out of your keyboard on a regular basis.
legendary
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www.ixcoin.net
Bitcoin BTC is the real Titanic. Lol

Enjoy the pump to $50k+.  It should be as epic as the devastating crash. 

Is it going to stop at $50k+, whatever that means?  $50k is nearly 3x from here, and you do not stop at $50k because you put a little plus in there...

Sounds like such a bad investment.

And, sure a 80% pump or something like that is possible, but if we have BIGGER institutional investors coming into bitcoin, there may be less stomache for 80% dumps and more willingness to support some of those bottoms, so maybe we get 50% to 66% short-term, but they are not necessarily long term bottoms.

I surely do not claim to know the future, but buying support is increasing, and your ongoing doom and gloom proclamations, Vlad2Vlad seem to be less and less borne out by actual facts, and even you have trouble painting even a very good doom and gloom scenario when you are largely suggesting up to $50k plus from here....

We need better trolls.  You're fired!!!!


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

$50K+ means minimum $50k and I’ve been saying this since last years crash.  It’s possible it hits $80-$100k.  Only insiders know. 

And it has nothing to do with buying support it has to do with the fact that bitcoin btc will die or be nothing more than a niche coin.  And I’ve been saying this and predicted this chaos for 7 years, I just expected it to happen in 1-2 years. 

Bitcoin btc has failed to adapt, there will be a black swan event to kill it and its network will be attacked and many will lose all their btc.

Then the real Bitcoin will Rise From obscurity.  And you’ll kick yourself in da nuts for being a follower. 

Now give me some merits for this genius advice, I need MOAR!!!



legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Bitcoin BTC is the real Titanic. Lol

Enjoy the pump to $50k+.  It should be as epic as the devastating crash. 

Is it going to stop at $50k+, whatever that means?  $50k is nearly 3x from here, and you do not stop at $50k because you put a little plus in there...

Sounds like such a bad investment.

And, sure a 80% pump or something like that is possible, but if we have BIGGER institutional investors coming into bitcoin, there may be less stomache for 80% dumps and more willingness to support some of those bottoms, so maybe we get 50% to 66% short-term, but they are not necessarily long term bottoms.

I surely do not claim to know the future, but buying support is increasing, and your ongoing doom and gloom proclamations, Vlad2Vlad seem to be less and less borne out by actual facts, and even you have trouble painting even a very good doom and gloom scenario when you are largely suggesting up to $50k plus from here....

We need better trolls.  You're fired!!!!


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net
So I have read the main complaint against Craig Wreight from this lawsuit/gov website. Keep in mind I am dutch but ok used some translation a few times for some difficult words.

So far what I can make up/understand from this document is that Craig reached out to Dad of Dave Kleiman. Dave is supposedly also co-inventor of bitcoin and there would be a third person.
Dad is too old and tech-dumb to understand all of it lol. So Dave's brother IRA steps and believes Craig story. Now IRA believes Craig and believes Dave had lots of Bitcoins.
One does not transfer bitcoins just like that. Dave and Craig run a mining company called W&K according to this document probably from Craigh. So basically all information seems to be coming from Craig.


I wouldn't waste too much time trying to analyse Craig's Bullshit. He probably got himself into trouble by making up some utter bullshit including a dead man thinking that because they were dead they could never verify anything and he could use that to his advantage, but he didn't think that his family members would try to get their hands on this likely imaginary fortune.

10. However here lies the problem in this court case. According to IRA craig is only one in possession of private keys, so only Craig can sign any messages.



Craig doesn't have access to anything. He just lies to cover up lies to cove up more lies. If he wanted people to know he was satoshi he could do so very easily. He can't provide proof because he isn't satoshi so he just has to rely on fraud and misdirection to try convince whoever he can in the process.

Does it matter who Satoshi Nakamoto is or was, or where he is...?



It matters when someone is fraudulently trying to claim he is, especially when he's doing this for his own personal gain and trying to sully the name of the real bitcoin in the process.


Bitcoin BTC is the real Titanic. Lol

 Enjoy the pump to $50k+.  It should be as epic as the devastating crash. 

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